Front and rear valence group buy!

Modshack · 12-22-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fly yellow

Why has he only refunded half your money and taken so long to do so? This sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me. At the very least this guy is running a business with absolutely no capital and is using money from new orders to fulfill old orders, which is still a ponzi scheme. I would take his board sponsorship away. It's not right to allow him to keep putting more members in jeopardy of being taken advantage of.

Bingo!

SpawnAeroJohn · 12-22-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fxroar

John, please confirm that tracking number you've given me. It still has not registered with the FedEx. And don't forget i'm second with the order on the Front/Rear Valence! Thanks.

PMED! I might have typed the wrong tracking so lmk if it works now.

SpawnAeroJohn · 12-22-2009, 03:42 PM

5 spots left!

1. DIGItonium - Rear valence.
2. fxroar - Front / rear valence.
3. LB79 - Front valence
4. Mochu - Front / rear valence
5. Simota1 - Front valence
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shabarivas · 12-22-2009, 03:44 PM

... why do you have to be so shady man? Carbon monoxide poisoning... wrong tracking numbers... and you promised to have some dudes refund back and now say that you will send him a 100 bucks? What the F are we your personal piggybank? Come on spawn - remember how much the community supported you in the start? Well thanks for going and ruining the trust that forum members will have in other small vendors like you who will eventually pop up - who might have a legitimate business ethic

SpawnAeroJohn · 12-22-2009, 03:45 PM

If you followed up you'd have seen that all those customers have been taken care of but of course nobody wants to see both sides...

Other then taht I feel you should know that one customer that demanded a refund is because he purchased something then wanted to get a refund 3 days later because he wanted more christmas money. No other company would have even thought about refunding him. So hes lucky that we are even giving him one. Most who I've spoken to have agreed.

SpawnAeroJohn · 12-22-2009, 03:47 PM

Other then that leave this thread for those who are interested in the product and for product information. Its a reach that some of you incist on flaming just to flame.

shabarivas · 12-22-2009, 03:50 PM

ok - you have folks over at G37 who have not got your product yet. The only "proof" that any one here has gotten anything is the fact that you have sent out "tracking" numbers... We are not stupid here man... Proof is in the pudding... and I am yet to see one person come out and say - hey I got my crap from Spawn. And whats worse is you have a group buy going. I would not feel safe investing in anything you are making until a lot of folks get and review their products. 3 Months for a 150$ refund is UNACCEPTABLE!

shabarivas · 12-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SpawnAeroJohn

Other then that leave this thread for those who are interested in the product and for product information. Its a reach that some of you incist on flaming just to flame.

That is not the point. we expect a certain level of professional courtesy from our vendors and I am afraid you have not met it.

SOLISIMO · 12-22-2009, 03:53 PM

well.....

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Originally Posted by tonmed123

Hey John. I ordered mine back in mid July and paid 200 bucks for them! I, Dont have mine yet! Now there is a group buy WTF! I already sent you my address again, so what the hold up? I havent recieved a tracking number or anything! At this point, I am pissed off

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

The world's longest production and lack of order fulfillment for a stinking B pillar. Seems like ages ago that people were promised hatches, roofs, valences, hoods. And we're still waiting on B pillars. What a disappointment.

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

How is Spawn still a site sponsor and recommended vendor?

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Originally Posted by shumby

ya not wanting to get in on this group buy. Will have to wait and see how issues are resolved before ordering from these guys

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've sent AK a suggestion that perhaps it's time to remove Spawn from our site's sponsorship. How many of our members have been preyed upon at this point? Unless there is an immediate turn around in order fulfillment and confirmation by those who have placed these orders, Spawn may need the boot to prevent innocent people falling victim to false claims and delayed orders. This has gone on too long, and group buys just perpetuate the problem further.

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

I would like to take this time to announce a public request for ANYONE that placed the order with spawn before and still hasn't received his products or refunds or been dealt with to WRITE their input. (as he just publicly made statement that EVERYONE has been worked with and there's no issues).

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

Thank You.

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

AK

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Originally Posted by Modshack

We've watched for 4 months. So far, the only confirmed delivery of products has been Bullit's single set of B pillars...I think many here are tired of the excuses..

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I've said before, I like some of your products, but that point is moot if you can't deliver as promised......

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Originally Posted by racerxj17

i was interested in all the products you had plan to offer. fair to say, you wont be seeing a buck out of my pocket....... just poor poor business choices. i mean, why even bother a group buy when there are orders from 6 months ago not filled? thats wrong.

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Originally Posted by racerxj17

try the genesis forum, maybe they have a bigger soft spot in their heart.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

but this is the future victims list, no?

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Originally Posted by MacDaddy

John,

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Originally Posted by MacDaddy

How about getting the products that have been paid for out first before y'all go tearin off into something new??? I for one have been 3+ months patient and still only have half of what was ordered yet you guys are talking door handles, hoods, mirrors and what ever else. You made the statement originally that you would not get ahead of yourselves, well guess what that ain't happening. As far as my b-pillars they will be coming back to you for the manufacture defect on the driver's side. I have tried to keep this back channel but after fronting money and hearing promise after promise, enough is enough, what I waited 3+ months for was not worth my time.

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Originally Posted by marcussoori

!!!??? Why is it taking so long for you to get your parts? There's another thread by a guy who waited over a month without parts, requested a refund and his part back, and still hasn't received it!

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Tough times? Really?

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That doesn't fly at all.

This is simply a case of being in WAY too deep.

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Originally Posted by takimbe

ditto. STILL waiting on my B-Pillars...its been over a month and the money could have been used to pay for other stuff. if i dont get them at the end of this week im requesting a refund.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well I feel really bad for everyone that has their money tied up in this mess. I hope it works out but I have a feeling there is going to be more bad resin, more revamping of production processes, etc. I.E. excuses.

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I'm afraid, with this Resin Fiasco, that i've already gotten the wrong idea. You guys are making things I'm interested in buying, but it seems like it's the first time you've done all this. My advice is to shoot final shots of the products Only, to present your products in a finished form. No doubt you'll do lots of business here, but so far all I have is questions as to the real quality of your finished parts...

SOLISIMO · 12-22-2009, 04:04 PM

myg37.com

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Can you please make sure all deals with myG37 users are through before canceling your sponsorship John? Those who are waiting on products or expecting refunds etc..

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If those few people who ordered had received their product, I'm sure they would have posted reviews, pics, etc., which in turn, would have led to more sales. There is always a snowball effect.

Remember, early adopters are the most outspoken. If you get them on your side, you've gotten past the hard part.

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What a joke some of these companies are man. Some people have NO F&^%$G IDEA how to run a successful business and it pisses me off so much to see people get taken advantage of and lied to all the effing time.

What a joke. Sorry for all the crap he put you guys through, it's not what we want/promote here on MYG37 and I can honestly say I'm glad that this company or whatever you want to call it is leaving. You guys are some patient dudes. I woulda raised hell the minute I smelled something fishy. I work hard as hell for my feria and to have some crooked company who knows the best way to formulate the worst excuses take it from me and do whatever the hell they want with it with nothing in return? Hell no.

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Where is the rest of my money John? I'm done with your excuses...

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My lip is still suppose to ship this week.

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Still waiting on the rest of my money to be refunded...

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So I guess this is really not going to happen so here it is. I was the original person who sent them a stillen splitter to get wrapped in CF back in september and I still havent received anything. It was "suppose" to be shipped out tuesday Dec 14th but I havent received any confirmation email from John. I emailed em this morning and havent received a response from them at all. At this point I feel like I've been more then patient and I'am really f@ckin pissed, not only did I lose a splitter but I lost $400 bucks. 3 months of empty promises from John. I had to speak my peace about this whole situation. I wish Spawn the best but I dont see a company going anywhere from this type business.

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Wait? What about my lip?

shabarivas · 12-22-2009, 04:10 PM

Pwned!

racerxj17 · 12-22-2009, 04:28 PM

:i con18:

:ico n18:

:icon1 8:

:tu p:

m4a1mustang · 12-22-2009, 05:09 PM

Holy Crap.

phelan · 12-22-2009, 05:13 PM

Sweet jesus, someone did his homework.

I will try (in vain) to stay neutral, but I should mention that B Pillars are shipping (...or he shipped what he had, I have no idea, nor can I speak for Spawn Aero). JakeZ34 and I for sure got ours, don't know about the rest. The group buy thread has been quiet in terms of pictures. I'm not going to put mine up until John and I have resolved our issue with one of them, but at this point I'm perfectly fine leaving the OEM ones on. And I'd like to believe that verbal agreements (er...PM'd agreements) are still valid contracts.

Carbon Fiber - it's sum srs bsns y0

FuszNissan · 12-22-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SpawnAeroJohn

If you followed up you'd have seen that all those customers have been taken care of but of course nobody wants to see both sides...

John,
what is the other side?

At this point it's not about the money, but the principal. You're in over your head. You can't refund everybody you owe money too! That is called negative cash flow.

It's time to do yourself a favor and call it. You have promised me that my b pillars are on the way, then gave me a bogus tracking number. Then tell me that you will send me more b pillars for the mistakes, when you can't even fulfill your other orders.

I get empty promises week, after week, after week that the problem would be corrected. But here I stand in front of you with half my money.

Yes, you have slowly giving me a refund, but a real company would have refunded the whole amount, and not half over 6 months.

Anyway, I wish you luck in the future,

Yours Truly,
A Lost Customer!
p.s. don't worry about the rest of my money, your not worth my time.

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12-22-2009, 03:42 PM	#63 (permalink)
SpawnAeroJohn NOT A CURRENT VENDOR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 609 Drives: you Rep Power: 17	5 spots left! 1. DIGItonium - Rear valence. 2. fxroar - Front / rear valence. 3. LB79 - Front valence 4. Mochu - Front / rear valence 5. Simota1 - Front valence 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

12-22-2009, 03:44 PM	#64 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	... why do you have to be so shady man? Carbon monoxide poisoning... wrong tracking numbers... and you promised to have some dudes refund back and now say that you will send him a 100 bucks? What the F are we your personal piggybank? Come on spawn - remember how much the community supported you in the start? Well thanks for going and ruining the trust that forum members will have in other small vendors like you who will eventually pop up - who might have a legitimate business ethic

12-22-2009, 03:45 PM	#65 (permalink)
SpawnAeroJohn NOT A CURRENT VENDOR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 609 Drives: you Rep Power: 17	If you followed up you'd have seen that all those customers have been taken care of but of course nobody wants to see both sides... Other then taht I feel you should know that one customer that demanded a refund is because he purchased something then wanted to get a refund 3 days later because he wanted more christmas money. No other company would have even thought about refunding him. So hes lucky that we are even giving him one. Most who I've spoken to have agreed.

12-22-2009, 03:47 PM	#66 (permalink)
SpawnAeroJohn NOT A CURRENT VENDOR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 609 Drives: you Rep Power: 17	Other then that leave this thread for those who are interested in the product and for product information. Its a reach that some of you incist on flaming just to flame.

12-22-2009, 03:50 PM	#67 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	ok - you have folks over at G37 who have not got your product yet. The only "proof" that any one here has gotten anything is the fact that you have sent out "tracking" numbers... We are not stupid here man... Proof is in the pudding... and I am yet to see one person come out and say - hey I got my crap from Spawn. And whats worse is you have a group buy going. I would not feel safe investing in anything you are making until a lot of folks get and review their products. 3 Months for a 150$ refund is UNACCEPTABLE!

12-22-2009, 04:10 PM	#71 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Pwned!