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DeliriousClam 12-22-2015 09:59 PM

Hatch release button in cabin?
 
Has anyone tried to do this? I'm going to attempt it in a week or two. If I get it to work and no one else has done it yet, would anyone like a DIY thread on it?

Leingod 12-22-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3374214)
Has anyone tried to do this? I'm going to attempt it in a week or two. If I get it to work and no one else has done it yet, would anyone like a DIY thread on it?

Pop open the gas tank also. Oh, and open the doors. Open the cubby hole also. Maybe open the secret compartment also. WELD ALL THE SEALS!!!!

DeliriousClam 12-23-2015 01:39 AM

So that's a no then

nismolucino 12-23-2015 08:46 AM

Ive thought about doing something with the release cable thats under neath the trunk paneling behind the drivers side.

scottIN 12-23-2015 09:27 AM

My Touring has one. I wonder if you could just use parts from the Touring model? Do you have the hole by the steering wheel for the button already?

TerribleONE 12-23-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 3374447)
My Touring has one. I wonder if you could just use parts from the Touring model? Do you have the hole by the steering wheel for the button already?

My car is a touring and doesn't have one :confused:

I am curious as to why you want this anyway but maybe I am just jealous because my hatch doesn't actually pop open because of my amuse wing.

kenchan 12-23-2015 09:38 AM

u folks actually use the rear glovebox aka hatch? :ugh:

MacCool 12-23-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 3374447)
My Touring has one. I wonder if you could just use parts from the Touring model? Do you have the hole by the steering wheel for the button already?

My 2011 Touring model didnt' have one, nor does my 2014, other than the cable release under the rear deck carpet. :confused:

(ETA: I believe that the Roadster does have a remote release button.

MacCool 12-23-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3374450)

I am curious as to why you want this anyway but maybe I am just jealous because my hatch doesn't actually pop open because of my amuse wing.

For my part, I valet park at the airport fairly often. The cops that are assigned to check for bombs have to look in the rear hatch as well as under the car and always ask me to pop the hatch. They get peeved when I can't do it, generally suspecting that I'm being obstructive and apparently they can't let me get out of the car. I just resolve myself to sitting and waiting while they cluelessly fumble around looking for the rear release.

cooltoy 12-23-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 3374447)
My Touring has one.

Back up to here and provide more detail please.

Gerg 12-23-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3374214)
Has anyone tried to do this? I'm going to attempt it in a week or two. If I get it to work and no one else has done it yet, would anyone like a DIY thread on it?

l'd be interested in a DIY. I still catch myself reaching for the non-existent release button in the cabin when I know I'm getting out and have to pull something out of the trunk.

So, that's at least one "yes".

90 ST 12-23-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3374457)
u folks actually use the rear glovebox aka hatch? :ugh:

Gotta put my snow brush somewhere...

DeliriousClam 12-23-2015 02:47 PM

I'm gonna get the parts then play around to see what I can do

JARblue 12-23-2015 02:50 PM

I'm interested in a DIY, but I don't spend a whole lot of time in the hatch to need a release button there ;)

But a momentary switch in the center console might be pretty convenient on occasion :tup:

AntiVenom 12-23-2015 04:31 PM

if you do it, i´d love to see it. like most others it´s not something that is a huge inconvenience but there are occasions.

murf51 12-23-2015 08:36 PM

I would love to see one as well, there are all types of situations where it would make my life easier.

DeliriousClam 12-23-2015 09:22 PM

Just gotta wait on the parts then I'll start working on it

DeliriousClam 12-23-2015 09:28 PM

And I'll say now if what I'm thinking needs to be done works, it'll be $20 tops for everything

Nixin 12-24-2015 07:18 AM

Are you guys kidding me? We are talking about a 370Z not an SUV.

SouthArk370Z 12-24-2015 08:53 AM

It's been a while since I looked at the wiring diagrams but, IIRC, all that is required is a switch (momentary contact?) and some wire. Diagrams are in the FSM (see link in my sig).

DeliriousClam 12-24-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3375048)
It's been a while since I looked at the wiring diagrams but, IIRC, all that is required is a switch (momentary contact?) and some wire. Diagrams are in the FSM (see link in my sig).

No for the hatch motor to release, you have to 5-wire it with a relay

SouthArk370Z 12-24-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3375183)
No for the hatch motor to release, you have to 5-wire it with a relay

Can you post which page(s) of the FSM have the hatch release wiring diagrams? Unless the hatch button status is sent over the CAN bus, you should be able to add a switch in the cabin and tap into the wire from the button to the BCM.

MacCool 12-24-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3375191)
Can you post which page(s) of the FSM have the hatch release wiring diagrams? Unless the hatch button status is sent over the CAN bus, you should be able to add a switch in the cabin and tap into the wire from the button to the BCM.

I wonder about that, since the opened/closed status of the hatch is part of the vehicle status display. However...

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...m-overview.png

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...-bcm-trunk.png

According to Chrisslicks, :
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According to the service manual the rear trunk release is wired to pin 67 (color GR) of the BCM. To send a "release" signal the pin is shorted to ground.

So for implementation you would wire a momentary switch (like the SRM switch) spliced into pin 67 and the other wire to chassis ground or electrical ground.

SouthArk370Z 12-24-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 3375223)
I wonder about that, since the opened/closed status of the hatch is part of the vehicle status display. However...

According to Chrisslicks, :
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According to the service manual the rear trunk release is wired to pin 67 (color GR) of the BCM. To send a "release" signal the pin is shorted to ground.

So for implementation you would wire a momentary switch (like the SRM switch) spliced into pin 67 and the other wire to chassis ground or electrical ground.

I believe Chrisslicks is correct. Except it may be terminal 61. FSM will tell you which switch is which.

The FSM also has diagrams showing how the wires are routed. You may be able to find an easy place to tap into the wire between the hatch button and BCM.

DeliriousClam 12-24-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3375264)
I believe Chrisslicks is correct. Except it may be terminal 61. FSM will tell you which switch is which.

The FSM also has diagrams showing how the wires are routed. You may be able to find an easy place to tap into the wire between the hatch button and BCM.

Oh I know exactly where the wires are in the passenger kick panel. The pin for the hatch release is negative but the motor needs to be 5-wired

DeliriousClam 12-24-2015 06:26 PM

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SouthArk370Z 12-24-2015 08:14 PM

The BCM should handle the motor. All you should have to do is tell the BCM to unlatch the hatch.

If you will tell me the FSM page with the wiring diagram(s), I can verify all this.

DeliriousClam 12-24-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3375373)
The BCM should handle the motor. All you should have to do is tell the BCM to unlatch the hatch.

If you will tell me the FSM page with the wiring diagram(s), I can verify all this.

I go off ALLDATA and direct techs

Jayhovah 12-25-2015 12:10 AM

Im in for a DIY.

barncobob 12-25-2015 10:37 AM

is it a big deal to use exterior hatch button, I use it 2x a month maybe

cooltoy 12-25-2015 11:02 AM

Especially since you have to grab the handle anyway.

MacCool 12-25-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3375579)
is it a big deal to use exterior hatch button, I use it 2x a month maybe

You could extend that question to a variety of modification that people make to their automobiles. "Is it really worth it?" Good lord...people here often obsess about changing their starting button to a red GTR button. For example.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...a/IMG_0048.jpg

:icon17:

Short answer, apparently, is "yes". For some people (maybe not you), a remote button for the hatch is a convenience that may be worth the effort of splicing in a remote momentary-contact switch. This thread is hoping to find a simple way to do it.

axmea? 12-25-2015 11:40 AM

OP - does it function while driving or in gear?

MacCool 12-25-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3375340)
Oh I know exactly where the wires are in the passenger kick panel. The pin for the hatch release is negative but the motor needs to be 5-wired

I've already been into the BCM while installing the T-connector for illuminated kick panels. That was a piece of cake, and the M121 bus is even easier to get to than the M119 where the illuminated kick panels splice in.

Splicing into the gray wire should be easy enough, but it would be nice to have confirmation that a momentary switch between gray wire and ground is all that's needed.

cooltoy 12-25-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 3375604)
Good lord...people here often obsess about changing their starting button to a red GTR button. For example.

Not the best comparison.
GTR button is an appearance mod that one sees everyday.

MacCool 12-25-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3375660)
Not the best comparison.
GTR button is an appearance mod that one sees everyday.

I'll bet you could come up with a better example.

Yes. Different people see these things differently. Some think that a remote hatch release is dumb, some think that changing from a white to a red button is dumb. Some even think (gasp!) that adding forced air induction is dumb.
People shouldn't judge the value of what other people think is important.

cooltoy 12-25-2015 03:03 PM

I don't think that this mod is dumb, just redundant. One still has to go and and use the handle to pull open the hatch, so does it matter whether one presses a button inside or outside.

Now if you could get the hatch to rise automatically, like an SUV - now you are talking.

DeliriousClam 12-25-2015 03:03 PM

I'm just gonna try to do this for ***** and giggles because I'm bored

cooltoy 12-25-2015 03:03 PM

BTW - no GTR button for me.

DeliriousClam 12-25-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3375690)
I don't think that this mod is dumb, just redundant. One still has to go and and use the handle to pull open the hatch, so does it matter whether one presses a button inside or outside.

Now if you could get the hatch to rise automatically, like an SUV - now you are talking.

don't tempt me


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