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g35300mm 11-03-2009 09:44 PM

Pearl white paint issue
 
I was debating on a few diff colors white, grey and red.

I decided to go with white. Over the past few months ive noticed everytime i saw a white 370 in person on the road or in a parking lot that the bumper both front and back were off (did not match). I figured it was nothing major and just my eyes playing tricks on me with the lighting but it turns outt that tonight i went to a nissan dealer that had one in stock and as soon as i walked through the doors of the dealership my jaw hit the floor. The front bumper stook out like a sore thumb. Has anyone else noticed this??? Am i dreaming?

Smallywood 11-03-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by g35300mm (Post 265473)
I was debating on a few diff colors white, grey and red.

I decided to go with white. Over the past few months ive noticed everytime i saw a white 370 in person on the road or in a parking lot that the bumper both front and back were off (did not match). I figured it was nothing major and just my eyes playing tricks on me with the lighting but it turns outt that tonight i went to a nissan dealer that had one in stock and as soon as i walked through the doors of the dealership my jaw hit the floor. The front bumper stook out like a sore thumb. Has anyone else noticed this??? Am i dreaming?


I noticed this as well. The sideskirts of the one at the dealership near me look off as well (not quite as noticeable on the skirts), but hey I'm the person that noticed the side mirrors are set at different angles too. Welcome to the OCD club. :tup:

g35300mm 11-04-2009 08:12 AM

ok well thats good. so im not the only one...

TX_370 11-04-2009 08:20 AM

There is already a thread on this somewhere, but most Pearl White owners probably see this. Keep in mind that the plastic / metal parts are not painted at the same location or together and there will be color variance.

P.S. I have this also and I believe Caravan said he did as well.

kannibul 11-04-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 265836)
There is already a thread on this somewhere, but most Pearl White owners probably see this. Keep in mind that the plastic / metal parts are not painted at the same location or together and there will be color variance.

P.S. I have this also and I believe Caravan said he did as well.

Not only that, but different materials under the paint can make it look darker or brighter, even though the color applied is the same....

For example I think most of the plastic bits are flat black, where as the metal stuff, well, is metal (aluminum mostly)

g35300mm 11-04-2009 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 265836)
There is already a thread on this somewhere, but most Pearl White owners probably see this. Keep in mind that the plastic / metal parts are not painted at the same location or together and there will be color variance.

P.S. I have this also and I believe Caravan said he did as well.

And your okay with it?? doesnt that kill you because your just dropped like
40k and people are looking at your bumpers funny? im not trying to hate i just need some feedback because i had my heart set on white up until the trip to the dealer last night.

Modshack 11-04-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 265836)
There is already a thread on this somewhere, but most Pearl White owners probably see this. Keep in mind that the plastic / metal parts are not painted at the same location or together and there will be color variance.

P.S. I have this also and I believe Caravan said he did as well.

Here's the thread on that..... http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...-very-off.html

TX_370 11-04-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 265876)

Thanks Mod

6spd 11-04-2009 11:30 AM

mine match perfectly, as did the other 2 i have seen.

TacoZ 11-04-2009 12:46 PM

Mine is okay. Although I have a clear bra on so it does look a little off. Oh and you better clean bird **** off right away or else it leaves a yellow mark on your paint. Even though I have a coat of wax on it, it doesn't help. Only color i know that leaves a yellow mark.

g35300mm 11-04-2009 09:00 PM

wow... so what should i do guys? i want the white but if its one of those roll the dice things? because it doesnt seem like everyone is having this problem. just maybe half the people who buy white.. but how do i know if that will be me or not? i will need to have the car ordered regardless. so how will i know if my cars bumpers and bottom panels will be a good enough match.. i wanted to really get white but looks like i might just settle for grey.

Caravanshaka 11-04-2009 09:32 PM

my skirts are off, my bumpers are perfect....you don't have to accept the car when it comes in if it doesn't look perfect, complain enough and they'll respray it. I didn't notice it really until I started taking pictures of the car, it shows up more in pics than in RL.

chris410 11-04-2009 09:35 PM

Mine are fine...the mud flaps are slightly different but that is to be expected. Aside from that mine matches perfectly. When I was at the dealer I actually checked for that because I was deciding between a black or white 370...

mrmixitup 11-04-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g35300mm (Post 265473)
I was debating on a few diff colors white, grey and red.

I decided to go with white. Over the past few months ive noticed everytime i saw a white 370 in person on the road or in a parking lot that the bumper both front and back were off (did not match). I figured it was nothing major and just my eyes playing tricks on me with the lighting but it turns outt that tonight i went to a nissan dealer that had one in stock and as soon as i walked through the doors of the dealership my jaw hit the floor. The front bumper stook out like a sore thumb. Has anyone else noticed this??? Am i dreaming?

The bumpers are urethane and the rest of the car is steel and aluminum. The paint is going to have a different look depending on what material it's painted on.

B1nks 11-04-2009 09:52 PM

Yeah I think my side skirts are a bit off and my mudflaps are because they aren't pearl I don't believe. Never bothered me and most of the time you can't tell unless the light is right.

Zerafian 11-04-2009 11:04 PM

the bumpers and side skirts arent the same material as the rest of the car, thats why the paint is usually off on them. I just got my whole repainted and there are slight differences in color from the front bumper to the hood and front fenders.

drisko 11-04-2009 11:11 PM

NONE of the panels match eachother exactly on white. Not sure if you got the splash guards with your 370, but those do not even come close to matching. The side skirts are also fairly noticeable, but I personally think the front and rear bumpers are not that bad under most lighting conditions.

feelzpwr91 11-04-2009 11:32 PM

hey man i have a a black 370, and i dont have color distortion, but our paint is not that good, alot of people already have clear coat blisters and such.

Caravanshaka 11-05-2009 07:42 AM

yes, different materials cover differently. The problem is that these are all factory painted, on an assembly line.

Any GOOD paint shop can match a color no matter what it is. The shop that repaired my wreck said they'd respray my skirts and match them perfectly for $500...I'm looking into getting nissan to cover at least half of that.

g35300mm 11-05-2009 08:48 AM

I hear you.

My G/f has a pearl white mazda 3gt and shes gotten hit a few times and mann have we had problems with body shops getting the paint right. I dont need the headache on a brand new car i have to dish out $45,000 CDN. im going with Carbon silver... or as you guys know it PG.

Thanks for your input and help every1

g35300mm 11-06-2009 05:51 PM

Im looking a little more closely at all the white z's on this forum.. and the bumpers allll look off? do you white z owners not see this? you mean to tell me you cant tell? come on.

chuckd05 11-07-2009 06:33 PM

lighting plays a huge roll in the color... at dusk is the worst time..

but with my car (the thread that mod posted) they repainted my rear bumper and it came out perfect imo... I havent gotten a chance to go and try to get the front sprayed but im pretty sure they will...

There was another white on the lot and its paint was almost perfect but it was an auto and that was not what I was looking for...

The Reds sometimes have darker bumpers, yellow ones can be off... The silvers and blacks seem to match good but the guy at the dealership said the darker silver comes in off sometimes too...

this happens on GTRs too which cost double the amount of our 370's. I dont completely understand why they dont correct this issue and i dont remember it being as big of an issue with the PW 350s or G35s.

My brother has a white Z and his are perfect

ZKindaGuy 11-07-2009 09:01 PM

It would serve anyone well in their life if they could be a little less critical of stuff as superficial as something like this.

TacoZ 11-08-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by g35300mm (Post 269903)
Im looking a little more closely at all the white z's on this forum.. and the bumpers allll look off? do you white z owners not see this? you mean to tell me you cant tell? come on.

It only shows up in pictures because of lighting or flash (because of the pearl). In real life I can't tell the difference.

southercadesi 02-25-2011 02:56 AM

Does anyone know if they fixed the color issue in later years? (i.e. 2010 or 2011?) Or is this all just at random if it matches or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 266003)
mine match perfectly, as did the other 2 i have seen.

What year Z do you have?

MUST 02-25-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TacoZ (Post 272192)
It only shows up in pictures because of lighting or flash (because of the pearl). In real life I can't tell the difference.

+1

also, i have an 09, and all my parts match...when clean, which it isn't usually.:rolleyes:

ZoroItaliano 02-25-2011 07:25 AM

white isnt the only color that has color variations.... its just more noticeable under certain lights.

My friend works in autobody and he told me it will never be exact as long as the materials are different.

JJ-NISMO 02-25-2011 01:26 PM

I went to a body shop to have something looked at, and while talking with the guy, he pointed out the difference in color between the bumpers and body paint on my PG 370z. He said that all cars will have some variance and it really depends on tha manufacturing process. It relates to the fact that the paint is being applied to two different types of materials, at different points in time, by different people. He said that even if done in the same place at the same time, the different in material would cause color variation. The color change is probably just more noticeable on a pearl color, especially white, but on most cars, at night, if you take an LED light you can see the difference.

k20z3 02-25-2011 01:56 PM

WHITE cars never have matching paint on bumpers my celica had the same issue.

k20z3 02-25-2011 01:58 PM

Im sure its the way the light refracts off the paint under lighting conditions with the type of material as others have said, the bumper is plastic body is metal. Light refracts differently.

370Z JT 02-25-2011 08:58 PM

This is how my bumper looked like from the factory. Unacceptable if you asked me. :shakes head:

http://www.the370z.com/members/370z-...n-thoughts.jpg

KaienZ34 02-25-2011 10:19 PM

I don't have this with my bumpers, but the side skirts are a little off from the rest. I've seen this on other colors and on completely different cars all together.

ZoroItaliano 02-25-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ-NISMO (Post 958356)
I went to a body shop to have something looked at, and while talking with the guy, he pointed out the difference in color between the bumpers and body paint on my PG 370z. He said that all cars will have some variance and it really depends on tha manufacturing process. It relates to the fact that the paint is being applied to two different types of materials, at different points in time, by different people. He said that even if done in the same place at the same time, the different in material would cause color variation. The color change is probably just more noticeable on a pearl color, especially white, but on most cars, at night, if you take an LED light you can see the difference.


exactly my point

IS2000 02-26-2011 05:24 AM

My bumpers are fine, but the side skirts are way off.

WithoutAdoubt 04-29-2011 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 271288)
It would serve anyone well in their life if they could be a little less critical of stuff as superficial as something like this.

Not sure I would agree with this statement. I just got my PW Z Roadster yesterday and my bumper looks as bad as the one a few posts back. I'm sorry but when I drop $45,000 on the top of the line model with every option they have I would like my paint to match up. It looks like I bought a bunch of body kit parts and rattle canned it LOL. Not quite the look I was going for, call me critical but I work at a Honda dealership and we have people freak out on the stupidest things, mis matched paint colors however on a brand new car I feel is a justified issue to be concerned about. I plan to get it fixed by Nissan.

tabrams31 04-30-2011 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 959221)
This is how my bumper looked like from the factory. Unacceptable if you asked me. :shakes head:

http://www.the370z.com/members/370z-...n-thoughts.jpg

Yeah I would say totally unacceptable!! That's way off.. Sorry.. :(

Baer383 04-30-2011 07:19 AM

On my p/w Z all the rockers and both bumpers were off so I went ahead and repainted them all(I work in a body shop)the bad news is everybody's bumpers and rocker covers are not going to match,they may match now but over time the plastic the the bumpers & rocker covers are made out of are absorbing the base coat where as the hood.fenders,and so on are not that's why there is a difference in color.
But it is not limited to just the white Z's all colors do the same thing just white is noticed more,on white you can stand next to it and see the difference but when you stand next to silver you don't,you only notice silver is off when you stand 15-20 feet back.

So my fellow QAB owners we are not alone.

DrEvil 04-30-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 265836)
There is already a thread on this somewhere, but most Pearl White owners probably see this. Keep in mind that the plastic / metal parts are not painted at the same location or together and there will be color variance.

P.S. I have this also and I believe Caravan said he did as well.

A friend who owns a body shop told me the same thing. You can even notice on the blue cars as well.


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