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cycy89 08-17-2015 11:13 PM

Fuel Gauge (Dots) Problems?
 
Anybody has problems with their fuel gauge? My dots would all disappear when there's still fuel in the car, And sometimes they will come back and sometimes they won't. Is this a Nissan recall problem? My car is 2011. Thanks!

Apex2Apex 08-18-2015 06:24 AM

It's a glitch in the Pac-Man software...

Seriously I have no idea. Good luck.

Hotrodz 08-18-2015 07:51 AM

Mine, like a lot of others will not show the first dot when full or it will disappears quickly. I talk to a Nissan service manager about it when I was having some work done and he said the part $300 before labor and that there was no guarantees that it would work any better than the one I have, so I just live with it. :ugh2: Yup, the fuel gauge is another one of those little annoying things with the 370z that Nissan knows about, but does nothing.

cycy89 08-18-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3287685)
Mine, like a lot of others will not show the first dot when full or it will disappears quickly. I talk to a Nissan service manager about it when I was having some work done and he said the part $300 before labor and that there was no guarantees that it would work any better than the one I have, so I just live with it. :ugh2: Yup, the fuel gauge is another one of those little annoying things with the 370z that Nissan knows about, but does nothing.

I actually found a thread about this, apparently it's the fuel sending unit. And someone on Facebook said it works but it will only last a couple of years.

Hotrodz 08-18-2015 07:57 AM

^^ Exactly!!!!

cycy89 08-18-2015 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3287691)
^^ Exactly!!!!

I'm just curious why using the FI fuel system doesn't fix the problem. Is it gonna be even worse now that it's running on E85/flex fuel? Like why is this even a problem? There's 2 sensors and a gauge, how hard it is to make it work? I blame the orange dots. I hope Tony can figure out a way to eliminate the problem.

Hotrodz 08-18-2015 08:44 AM

I think the issue maybe the sending unit itself as mine was not working right before the twin turbo install and nothing has changed since. Yeah, I hope it's no worse with e85. My fear was trying to run all the 91 craptane out so I could run 100 octane, because it would go from three dots to one dot in no time at all and that miles till empty does the same thing...35 mile to empty, go five mile and 15 miles till empty. At least now with flex fuel, I won't have to worry about that!!!

2009_370z 08-18-2015 11:55 AM

I HATE IT when you fill up the tank but the very last one won't light up. I hate having OCD lol..

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3287507)
Anybody has problems with their fuel gauge? My dots would all disappear when there's still fuel in the car, And sometimes they will come back and sometimes they won't. Is this a Nissan recall problem? My car is 2011. Thanks!


cycy89 08-18-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2009_370z (Post 3287989)
I HATE IT when you fill up the tank but the very last one won't light up. I hate having OCD lol..

Color it in with a sharpie LOL

JARblue 08-18-2015 12:07 PM

Man, you guys are missing out. I get over 100 miles on that first dot alone!! :rolleyes:

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...l-img_0354.jpg

cycy89 08-18-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3288008)
Man, you guys are missing out. I get over 100 miles on that first dot alone!! :rolleyes:

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...l-img_0354.jpg

It just acts weird. You never know what's it gonna do. Lol

FPenvy 08-18-2015 12:11 PM

my first dot is always out after a fill up but when I shut it down then drive later it'll typically light up.

cycy89 08-18-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3288019)
my first dot is always out after a fill up but when I shut it down then drive later it'll typically light up.

Tony told me it shows my car has over a quarter tank then they all disappeared after idling for a while. That's before tt.

FPenvy 08-18-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3288022)
Tony told me it shows my car has over a quarter tank then they all disappeared after idling for a while. That's before tt.

yea mine only does it on the first dot and once in a blue moon the first 2 will be missing when I fill up. but most times it's just driving home, shut down, turn on, and they are back on.

cycy89 08-18-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3288024)
yea mine only does it on the first dot and once in a blue moon the first 2 will be missing when I fill up. but most times it's just driving home, shut down, turn on, and they are back on.

It's just annoying. The last thing I wanna do while driving is guessing how much gas I have in the car.

FPenvy 08-18-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3288029)
It's just annoying. The last thing I wanna do while driving is guessing how much gas I have in the car.

based mine only seeming to be not lit it doesn't scare me. it's more of the lights malfunctioning at the top. the bottom hasn't misled me yet as to whats left. but I will say I never let it get below a 1/4 before I fill it back up.

theDreamer 08-18-2015 12:38 PM

The two main problems are:
-Fuel sender
-Injector size

The fuel sender seems to be pretty spotty, had mine replaced once and it fixed it for awhile but came back now & again. The injector size is causing problems with MPG/Miles to empty/bottom dots. The system is expecting the injectors to run a certain way but with larger injectors they pump more fuel but less often causing the system to think it is running more efficiently. This is not an ECU issues it is another system in the Z which measure MPG/Range and needs to be adjusted so the dots & read outs can properly show.

2009_370z 08-18-2015 12:52 PM

At this rate, I might have too SMH. :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3288005)
Color it in with a sharpie LOL


SouthArk370Z 08-18-2015 04:05 PM

Next time the display messes up, check the Range display. If it matches the gauge (ie, close to zero), it's probably the tank sensor or wiring (a not uncommon problem as mentioned above). Else I suspect a bad gauge, possibly a common ground/supply for the dots.

Rusty 08-19-2015 03:25 AM

If you never been inside the tank. It has 2 float sensors. One on each side. They're both a resistor type of sensor. As the float moves up and down. The other end of the arm moves on a resistor grid, changing the voltage signal back to the gauge basically. If one of the floats has absorbed some fuel. It will not float as high. Giving you a low reading. Or if the arm is bent. It might not be going high enough to trigger the last full light on the gauge.

KevinN 08-19-2015 03:48 AM

Yeah I have the same problem. Have the f.i. TT and flex fuel. Even before flex fuel and e85, the problem was there.

Chan Chee Hoe 08-19-2015 06:34 AM

My worse,i never pumped full tank,but last week,my Country's National Day,petrol is a tad cheaper,pumped full tank,now used 180km,but still no drop in dots....worrying.

POS VETT 08-19-2015 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2009_370z (Post 3287989)
I HATE IT when you fill up the tank but the very last one won't light up. I hate having OCD lol..

In the case of my '11, that last dot can only be "filled in" with slowly pouring the fuel in using a small fuel container. The size of the container is important to control the flow rate; I use a 2-gallon. Don't use a 5-gallon container.

cycy89 09-20-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3288792)
If you never been inside the tank. It has 2 float sensors. One on each side. They're both a resistor type of sensor. As the float moves up and down. The other end of the arm moves on a resistor grid, changing the voltage signal back to the gauge basically. If one of the floats has absorbed some fuel. It will not float as high. Giving you a low reading. Or if the arm is bent. It might not be going high enough to trigger the last full light on the gauge.

I think you're right. My tank is pretty much full and the last few lights never light up.
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cycy89 09-21-2015 09:07 PM

But I think the range is fairly accurate. I don't have the balls to actually test it tho lol. Always fill it up when it goes under half tank.

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Rusty 09-21-2015 10:07 PM

D'oh. I just dawned on me. I should have included it in my earlier post. Also a part of the resistor grid may be dead. Had a '99 Grand Cherokee that had a dead spot in the grid. The fuel gauge would read fine from full to just above a half tank, then quit reading until the fuel level dropped just below a half tank. But when it was in that dead zone. The gauge would read empty. Thinking about how the Z grid could be. The dead zone could be from where it stops reading to full dot.

Cory Gillmore 11-29-2021 09:44 AM

Sorry to revive an old thread…but there are two fuel sending units in our Zs, correct? One on the passenger side that is a part of the fuel pump assembly, and another on the drivers side that is only a fuel sending unit? I’ve been having a P0300 that’s now turned into a P0305 and my fuel level gauge has just started acting funny. So I’m suspecting my fuel pump hat is broken or something. I was thinking about just buying a new fuel pump assembly and also buying the fuel sending unit for the drivers side just to cover all the bases.

But just to confirm, if I buy a fuel pump assembly it does come with that sides fuel sending unit?

Spooler 11-29-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory Gillmore (Post 4014828)
Sorry to revive an old thread…but there are two fuel sending units in our Zs, correct? One on the passenger side that is a part of the fuel pump assembly, and another on the drivers side that is only a fuel sending unit? I’ve been having a P0300 that’s now turned into a P0305 and my fuel level gauge has just started acting funny. So I’m suspecting my fuel pump hat is broken or something. I was thinking about just buying a new fuel pump assembly and also buying the fuel sending unit for the drivers side just to cover all the bases.

But just to confirm, if I buy a fuel pump assembly it does come with that sides fuel sending unit?

Just buy a new billet fuel pump top hat from CJ Motorsports. You won't have that issue again.

JARblue 11-29-2021 11:12 AM

:iagree:

The OEM top hat uses plastic threaded rods that get brittle and break over time. CJM billet top hat is the way to go.

Cory Gillmore 11-29-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014830)
Just buy a new billet fuel pump top hat from CJ Motorsports. You won't have that issue again.

Thanks fellas. But question is more about the fuel sending units. If I buy a fuel pump assembly, it comes with the fuel sending unit for the passenger side, correct? Then I could just buy the fuel sending unit for the drivers side and that would cover both?

I would definitely pick up a billet top hat. Is that a pretty straight forward install on a brand new fuel pump?

JARblue 11-29-2021 12:40 PM

Correct. Yes. Another consideration is upgrading the driver side with a secondary pump to function as a fuel starve solution.

Yes.


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