My clearcoat is blistering!!!

kannibul · 10-30-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Not easy to do a JoeD impersonation

The poor paint and clearcoat "from the factory" are damaged in transit. Nissan's only problem is it's shipper. There is no way these cars are leaving QC from a Japanese factory in poor condition. Head of QC would commit hari-kiri if that was the case.

Read this, then tell me your local body shop will do a better job. It's apparent that paint (and QC) is one of Nissan's STRONGEST areas.

Feature Article - Flawless (Nearly) - 11/99

So orange peel is caused by transit?

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 01:02 PM

Kannibul, you and Modshack are correct. there is no way a multi-billion dollar major auto manufacturer knows how to properly paint a car. In Mod's own words, "My clearcoat is better than the factory job".

case closed. It is obvious to me that Nissan will be going out of business very soon. In fact, it was a colossal waste of money to put in all those clean rooms and robotics. And those daily QC checks, worthless!

At this point I am seriously thinking of going for a German car rather than anything from this crappy company. These Japanese, what do they know about manufacturing and quality control? They know NOTHING!

Modshack · 10-30-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Read this, then tell me your local body shop will do a better job. It's apparent that paint (and QC) is one of Nissan's STRONGEST areas.

Feature Article - Flawless (Nearly) - 11/99

That's all well and good,(considering it was written 10 years ago) but I continue to be surprised by some of the problems reported here that don't have anything to do with transit damage.. Blemishes in the color coat (under the clear). Clear that is easily damaged or is actually flaking off on some cars.. The original paint on my car was actually very good though so it's not a universal issue....Just reported more here than I'm used to seeing on the typical car forum..

As a side note, I pulled up alongside a Black Jeep Liberty the other day and actually had to do a double take. The factory finish looked like the surface of the moon it had so much orange peel. I was actually amazed at how bad it was. Guess it could always be worse!

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

That's all well and good,(considering it was written 10 years ago) but I continue to be surprised by some of the problems reported here that don't have anything to do with transit damage.. Blemishes in the color coat (under the clear). Clear that is easily damaged or is actually flaking off on some cars.. The original paint on my car was actually very good though so it's not a universal issue....Just reported more here than I'm used to seeing on the typical car forum..

As a side note, I pulled up alongside a Black Jeep Liberty the other day and actually had to do a double take. The factory finish looked like the surface of the moon it had so much orange peel. I was actually amazed at how bad it was. Guess it could always be worse!

eh, y'know I've gotta drop out here. I see none of this sh!t with my own eyes, I can't comment at this point except to say I'd be absolutely shocked if any Japanese auto manufacturer let cars out of the factory with these issues. It goes completely against the grain of everything I have ever read or studied about Japanese manufacturing standards, which are considered to be equal to, if not better than, Germany's.

Trips · 10-30-2009, 10:21 PM

Hey steve, looks like you got them on the ropes! lol

chuckd05 · 10-31-2009, 12:29 AM

Ill give my .02 here...

IMO if you put any significant amount of miles on your car.. lets say over 1,000. I do not think you will end up with a new car.

Secondly, I took delivery on my car on a sunny afternoon, excited to get the car i took pictures, while not realizing my bumper color was significantly off in the rear, and certainly not perfect in the front. I first realized the problem while looking at the pictures that night, Upon further inspection on my car the next day it was clearly WAY off in the rear.. I have only asked my service manager about painting the rear bumper, he took pictures sent them to Nissan , and they agreed to paint my rear bumper (only thing i really pushed for) with out question. He agreed 100% that it was not acceptable and was as helpful as he could of been. My dealership does have a body shop located directly behind the dealership and they had me drop off my car on a Monday, and it was done Tuesday..

Nissan will do the right thing for you. You may have to agree to repainting the car though. Yes it sucks but its not the worst thing that could happen, as long as it's warrantied and you are happy with the result. I had my old g35 repainted in the front and rear, once to install newer front bumper and i got rear ended and got me a much needed rear 1/4 re finishing, lol. It came out awesome. The Infiniti paint was not all the greatest. The Red faided and the bumpers definatly didn't hold up too well to rocks/bugs, the repaint came out better than factory without question.

My girlfiends audi paint is without question far superior in quailty to Nissan Paint, it just holds up ridiculously well.. its a 1999 with 154k miles and it's rarely washed. It is Pearl White and when you clean it the paint looks mint on the entire car. The clear is amazingly strong and resistant to chips and scratches.

it is what it is, just get it fixed asap

The paint quality on the 370z seems very good to me, but in my case, my front and rear bumper color was way off and someone had to stamp this car as good to go when it had obvious blemishes.

Before:

After:

clear is as strong as factory in the rear, and the paint matches 99%. I have zero issues with this outcome and it was repainted.

Modshack · 10-31-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

I see none of this sh!t with my own eyes, I can't comment at this point except to say I'd be absolutely shocked if any Japanese auto manufacturer let cars out of the factory with these issues. It goes completely against the grain of everything I have ever read or studied about Japanese manufacturing standards, which are considered to be equal to, if not better than, Germany's.

Those pictures are shocking eh?.......The Japanese are good but they don't walk on water..I worked for Honda for 20+ years and even we had a few goofs along the way.

kenchan · 10-31-2009, 02:00 PM

it's also possible the paint got tampered with while in transit or while parked at the dealer/at your house.

ive seen some chemicals that can bubble your paint. in no chemist so dont know
details but you can get paint strippers and stuff pretty easily.

NXTAZEE · 10-31-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

it's also possible the paint got tampered with while in transit or while parked at the dealer/at your house.

ive seen some chemicals that can bubble your paint. in no chemist so dont know
details but you can get paint strippers and stuff pretty easily.

This does happen. I bought a new 2001 Jetta that was damaged during transit and repainted without anyone knowing, including the dealer. The paint started to look funny after a month or so, so I had the dealer look at it and they said they would pay to have it repainted. When the paint shop took off the front bumper it was damaged inside. They told me it was in an accident, but when I asked the dealer to look it up they said, and showed me as well, there was nothing reported. I was told by the paint shop that this happens all the time. Not very comforting is it.

370Zsteve · 10-31-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Those pictures are shocking eh?.......The Japanese are good but they don't walk on water..I worked for Honda for 20+ years and even we had a few goofs along the way.

actually they ARE shocking. particularly the fact that the mudguard is also the wrong color lmao wtf something ain't right. I suppose the mudguard was repainted as well. Call in the Photoshop crew.

Originally Posted by kenchan
it's also possible the paint got tampered with while in transit or while parked at the dealer/at your house. ive seen some chemicals that can bubble your paint. in no chemist so dont know details but you can get paint strippers and stuff pretty easily.

Originally Posted by nxtazee
This does happen. I bought a new 2001 Jetta that was damaged during transit and repainted without anyone knowing, including the dealer. The paint started to look funny after a month or so, so I had the dealer look at it and they said they would pay to have it repainted. When the paint shop took off the front bumper it was damaged inside. They told me it was in an accident, but when I asked the dealer to look it up they said, and showed me as well, there was nothing reported. I was told by the paint shop that this happens all the time. Not very comforting is it.
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Not comforting at all.

MODS! End this thread. It's going nowhere.

Modshack · 10-31-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

actually they ARE shocking. particularly the fact that the mudguard is also the wrong color lmao wtf something ain't right.

Actually the plastic parts are not painted at the same time as the car (with many manufacturers) , and often at completely different facilities. They all come together at the point of assembly.....No surprise really that there may be differences.....On my car, There is a very "slight" difference in shading between my plastic side skirts and the body color..Not enough to really be of any concern.

370Zsteve · 10-31-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Actually the plastic parts are not painted at the same time as the car (with many manufacturers) , and often at completely different facilities. They all come together at the point of assembly.....No surprise really that there may be differences.....On my car, There is a very "slight" difference in shading between my plastic side skirts and the body color..Not enough to really be of any concern.

All I'm saying is, the mudguard is the same color as the alleged off-color bumper. Again, not there, not qualified to comment. Modshack, we goin' nowhere on this, man.

Modshack · 10-31-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Modshack, we goin' nowhere on this, man.

You're just in denial.. When (and If) you get your car, look it over good in daylight condidtions..

370Zsteve · 10-31-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

You're just in denial.. When (and If) you get your car, look it over good in daylight condidtions..

LOL, no if's and's or but's, it's comin. After I get back from Mexico, leaving tomorrow for a week of sun in Cabo San Lucas.

You got it right. When they show me that car when I'm singing the papers, I'll have them bring it outside in the sun. Trust no one.

Daishi · 10-31-2009, 03:20 PM

The problem with repainting your car is that it lowers the value of a car.. no matter how good the job is when you go to trade in your car if your even going to trade it in for a while the dealer knows whether the car has been painted or not.

10-30-2009, 01:02 PM	#62 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Kannibul, you and Modshack are correct. there is no way a multi-billion dollar major auto manufacturer knows how to properly paint a car. In Mod's own words, "My clearcoat is better than the factory job". case closed. It is obvious to me that Nissan will be going out of business very soon. In fact, it was a colossal waste of money to put in all those clean rooms and robotics. And those daily QC checks, worthless! At this point I am seriously thinking of going for a German car rather than anything from this crappy company. These Japanese, what do they know about manufacturing and quality control? They know NOTHING! __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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10-31-2009, 12:29 AM	#66 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Ill give my .02 here... IMO if you put any significant amount of miles on your car.. lets say over 1,000. I do not think you will end up with a new car. Secondly, I took delivery on my car on a sunny afternoon, excited to get the car i took pictures, while not realizing my bumper color was significantly off in the rear, and certainly not perfect in the front. I first realized the problem while looking at the pictures that night, Upon further inspection on my car the next day it was clearly WAY off in the rear.. I have only asked my service manager about painting the rear bumper, he took pictures sent them to Nissan , and they agreed to paint my rear bumper (only thing i really pushed for) with out question. He agreed 100% that it was not acceptable and was as helpful as he could of been. My dealership does have a body shop located directly behind the dealership and they had me drop off my car on a Monday, and it was done Tuesday.. Nissan will do the right thing for you. You may have to agree to repainting the car though. Yes it sucks but its not the worst thing that could happen, as long as it's warrantied and you are happy with the result. I had my old g35 repainted in the front and rear, once to install newer front bumper and i got rear ended and got me a much needed rear 1/4 re finishing, lol. It came out awesome. The Infiniti paint was not all the greatest. The Red faided and the bumpers definatly didn't hold up too well to rocks/bugs, the repaint came out better than factory without question. My girlfiends audi paint is without question far superior in quailty to Nissan Paint, it just holds up ridiculously well.. its a 1999 with 154k miles and it's rarely washed. It is Pearl White and when you clean it the paint looks mint on the entire car. The clear is amazingly strong and resistant to chips and scratches. it is what it is, just get it fixed asap The paint quality on the 370z seems very good to me, but in my case, my front and rear bumper color was way off and someone had to stamp this car as good to go when it had obvious blemishes. Before: After: clear is as strong as factory in the rear, and the paint matches 99%. I have zero issues with this outcome and it was repainted. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 10-31-2009 at 12:53 AM.

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