Nissan 370Z Forum  

The 370Z Weight Reduction Thread

Originally Posted by MJB Has anybody heard of or used Tomioka lightweight batteries? They come in 6, 12, 15, 17 and 21lbs. I may buy one of these if I

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Exterior & Interior


Like Tree138Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-03-2012, 07:11 PM   #556 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MJB View Post
Has anybody heard of or used Tomioka lightweight batteries? They come in 6, 12, 15, 17 and 21lbs. I may buy one of these if I hear some good reviews on them. Pretty good weight savings..

Lightweight batteries - Products
Their 15lb model looks roughly comparable to Odyssey's PC-680 in just about every respect (roughly similar dimensions, capacities, ratings, etc) based on what little info they give out. They claim a considerably higher "CCA", but it's well known that there's multiple definitions of that term that mfgs play around with to compete with each other. The other figures are very close though, with the slight edge to the Tomioka battery all around. On the other hand the PC-680 is well-proven, easy to buy, and cheaper (check amazon.com).

Both mfgs offer a range of weight tradeoffs of course, but honestly I'd be wary of going any smaller than about where the PC-680 is at, at least with AGM technology batteries (which both of these are). Maybe for dedicated, trailered race car you could go smaller, since you can always jump-start that easily.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2012, 07:16 PM   #557 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Wstar, what all is needed to relocate the battery to the rear, parts wise.
Have a few things I need done this month and might just let Baker handle it.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2012, 07:30 PM   #558 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Wstar, what all is needed to relocate the battery to the rear, parts wise.
Have a few things I need done this month and might just let Baker handle it.
Travis started the DIY thread, it has his install, my original install, and my re-done install. Between the three lots of parts are mentioned .

DIY: Battery Relo

My first install was a real Home Depot Hackjob, but it worked fine. The second time around I did it right, and included a list for some of the smaller connectors/parts/etc as well:

DIY: Battery Relo

Bottom line is: PC-680, some kind of PC-680-compatible hold-down/box, a bunch of 1/0-gauge welding cable, some slit ribbed plastic tubing to go over the cable to prevent nicks, and a lot of labor and small electrical parts

This is the box I used: Odyssey battery aluminum hold down
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2012, 08:28 PM   #559 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Isamu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Minot ND
Posts: 51,960
Drives: every day...
Rep Power: 213
Isamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond reputeIsamu has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wstar View Post
Travis started the DIY thread, it has his install, my original install, and my re-done install. Between the three lots of parts are mentioned .

DIY: Battery Relo

My first install was a real Home Depot Hackjob, but it worked fine. The second time around I did it right, and included a list for some of the smaller connectors/parts/etc as well:

DIY: Battery Relo

Bottom line is: PC-680, some kind of PC-680-compatible hold-down/box, a bunch of 1/0-gauge welding cable, some slit ribbed plastic tubing to go over the cable to prevent nicks, and a lot of labor and small electrical parts

This is the box I used: Odyssey battery aluminum hold down
repped
__________________
Quote:
It's not an oil leak, it's sweat from all the horsepower!

黒子 ('Kuroko')
Project: SuperNova Owner/Operator and Lead designer @BlackGuard Aeroworks
Isamu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2012, 09:03 PM   #560 (permalink)
Track Member
 
mikey1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 503
Drives: MY11 370z Black
Rep Power: 16
mikey1600 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CZero View Post
After reading the first pages again I saw mention of lighter lug nuts.

It reminded me that on my Porsche 951 the wheel lugs are made of magnesium and are extremely light. So light that when I first took them off I was pretty impressed.

I googled and found a few links:
BLOX Lightweight Lug Nuts - Lug Nuts
Lug Nuts
I've just put WORK RS-R (extended open ended lugs) on with my new wheels, they are crazy light about 25grams per lug, attached is picture of them.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg lugs.jpg (494.3 KB, 43 views)
mikey1600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 01:28 AM   #561 (permalink)
Track Member
 
edconline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 855
Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N
Rep Power: 22
edconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond reputeedconline has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Nice! I have a set in red waiting to go on with my new wheels, I could not believe how light they were when I opened the package, almost feels like they are plastic lol
__________________
View Journal
Audio Build
edconline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 01:48 AM   #562 (permalink)
Track Member
 
mikey1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 503
Drives: MY11 370z Black
Rep Power: 16
mikey1600 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edconline View Post
Nice! I have a set in red waiting to go on with my new wheels, I could not believe how light they were when I opened the package, almost feels like they are plastic lol
haha I'm hearing ya man, I was like WTF! super light :O
mikey1600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2012, 10:33 AM   #563 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 86
Drives: 2011 370Z Coupe
Rep Power: 249
kcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

For the base coupe wheels (18x8 front, 18x9 rear) the lightest weight tires I have found are the Michelin Pilot Sport. This would save 14.2 for the front two and 18.6 for the back two (combined, not each tire) compared to the stock yokohamas.

My friend has the base roadster, same year, and he has bridgestone tires and also different wheels than my coupe. He does not have the sport package.

He appears to have the same calipers. I read that the stock calipers are cast iron. If so, does anyone know the savings to go from stock to aluminum calipers?
kcquinn49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2012, 03:37 PM   #564 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ChipsWithDips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 279
Drives: '11 Gunmetal 370Z MT
Rep Power: 14
ChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura aboutChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura about
Default

I did some research into tire weights a while back and found that continental extreme contact DW were the lightest for a given size that I used.

And they are regarded as providing very good grip and reasonably priced. I think they are really the best option out there from what I've seen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Copy and past from my notes
Tire weights in 245/45/18, from TireRack specs:
23lbs Continental ContactExtreme DW
24lbs Michelin Pilot Super Sport
25lbs Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
25lbs Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (235/50/18)
26lbs Kumho Exsta XS (245/40R18)
27lbs Dunlop SP Sport Maxx TT
27lbs Hankook Ventus R-S3 (245/40ZR18)
27lbs Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110
27lbs Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (255/40/18)
28lbs Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
28lbs Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08
29lbs Dunlop Direzza sport z1 star spec
30lbs Bridgestone Potenza RE-11
30lbs Bridestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position
ChipsWithDips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 10:56 PM   #565 (permalink)
MJB
A True Z Fanatic
 
MJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tacoma, WA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,498
Drives: a POS truck
Rep Power: 496
MJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Has anyone done an A/C delete? Sorry if this has been covered before, kinda scrolled through this thread quick. I know the condenser is attached to the radiator, but I'm sure removing the compressor would save quit a bit of weight.
__________________
09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.
MJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2012, 05:07 PM   #566 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 86
Drives: 2011 370Z Coupe
Rep Power: 249
kcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond reputekcquinn49 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I looked again and couldn't find it. I remember seeing a post here stating that the air conditioner delete was about 30 pounds.
kcquinn49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 12:18 AM   #567 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

More importantly getting the AC compressor out of the belt loop is a drag reduction on the engine. If you're killing AC, IMHO may as well kill the whole system while you're at it, get the heater core outta there, all the ductwork and blower stuff under the dash, all the related harness wiring to the BCM and the dash controls, etc. Lots of things to cut out there.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2012, 11:03 AM   #568 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Dwnshift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Cincy
Posts: 717
Drives: NISMO 370Z RC
Rep Power: 14
Dwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to all
Default

Did someone say carbon headlight covers?

They save about 35+ lbs
The oem units are expensive to replace....I'll post some pics but t won't let me upload from my iPod
Dwnshift
Dwnshift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2012, 02:39 AM   #569 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You mean some kind of snap-in replacements that are empty shells for racing during the day?
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2012, 11:20 AM   #570 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Dwnshift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Cincy
Posts: 717
Drives: NISMO 370Z RC
Rep Power: 14
Dwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to allDwnshift is a name known to all
Default

Correct
Dwnshift is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
370z Sport Package Weight?? drisko Nissan 370Z General Discussions 12 02-09-2009 11:47 AM
Weight of stock wheels? sbkim Wheels & Tires 9 01-13-2009 10:57 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2