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There is the link.

I understand your concern, but we have been making parts for Z's for the last decade that you don't even know about. They just don't have our name on them.

Also, I typically go by the general rule I was taught at a very young age.

" The faster you get the air in and out = The more power you make. "

I also have a very lengthy background in fabrication/engineering personally.

Not exactly the warm welcome I was hoping for from my Z community.

I understand skepticism, but this is bit far.

There are several of these parts going out to the following dealers for 3rd party dyno results.

Specialty Z
Z1 Motorsports
Concept Z Performance
Houston Z
and MotoIQ

All these companies offered right away to fit and test this part. Some agreeing that there is a known issue.

It is just the prototype behind on this one. There is no powder coat lol. Sorry for the confusion.

I will have better pics up for everyone tonight.

So if the dyno showed a gain of 15 whp when the intake was originally installed with my front fascia on, based on the math it sounds like you claiming this product will provide an additional 14-22 whp. Is that the case?

It's entirely possible that you're right. I'll happily admit it if that's the case. I'm just confused since no one dynos their car with the bumper off and many people here have dyno charts showing gains in line with what the intake manufacturers expect. Then you make a post with some claims to the contrary, and do not provide any backup except an article from 2009 - and we had to drag that out of you. You should have led with your supporting information and some real world proof. You did neither. I'll profusely apologize once we see that you're selling a good product, not just more of the snake oil bs that cars get right around the time that they've reached the end of the line.

I'm sorry you feel personally attacked by me asking for more proof than you initially provided. Tell you what - no bs - post up some 3rd party same day before and after dyno sheets showing these gains, and I'll buy you a six pack in apology (I'd say I'd buy one, but my intakes aren't even in the same zip code as stock). I hope you are bringing a good product to market, there's just a lot of vendors these days who like to throw around bold claims with limited proof and many of us here are skeptical.

I am not claiming those numbers or any numbers particularly. All I am claiming is that I made a device that literally shovels air into your filters. When we A/B test this part, we could physically tell a huge difference. Mainly on low-mid torque in comparison to it being off of the car.

In my own theory of a product like this, it would be really hard to get a solid consistent number out of it, as it is heavily dependent on vehicle speed. On a Dyno, that will be a bit tough to replicate.

If you are skeptical, I understand.

Wait for the dyno results and people to get them on their cars and report back.

As far as price goes. We felt that it was pretty reasonable considering all these expenses have to be accounted for.

Material
Laser CNC Cut
CNC bent
Powder Coat
Custom Boxes
Packing material
Custom machined bracket and hardware
R&D for several months on and off.

If you really think about it, there is a bit more to a product than most consider.

It was just how you addressed it.. I totally agree that we need some more solid evidence as it is always preferable and good for all.

I did write this post at like 2:30 am! There is a good chance I jumped the gun on presenting this to you guys lol.

All I ever claimed is that this thing is getting way more air to the long tube intakes, and from what we have experienced in testing. More low-mid end torque.

Im not saying your product is farce too. But honestly people here have sold there Z and left this forum.

Too late in game? Maybe or maybe not.

I dont know how many people here are into numbers game. Or bragging rights.

I only have one Z for 6 years now and my other car is a C7 Z51. I agree with the principle as the C7 alone have lots if deflectors for increased air flow and cooling.

Will I buy one for my Z? Maybe yes and no.
For the last 2 weeks in the for sale thread at least 4 people selling the Gen 3 Stillen intakes and having hard time selling.

When 6 years ago they are selling like hot cakes even for a price of $500.
A 8 to 9 year old car? Do I need to brag about it every time I attend a cars and coffee in my area that I have this deflectors? Nobody would care as people are more interested on the new design Mustang, Corvette etc.

I welcome the innovation but timing is everything in the business world. Do you intend to sell to many people who DD the Z example people in California where the average speed is 5-6 miles On heavy traffic or your target market people who track there Z? I only know 5 or 6 in this forum now.

Its a free market I welcome and applaud the effort in making the Stillen work better. Maybe same reason why Stillen didnt bother to make one to sell because the market is small now.

Im speaking of the business side of things.

There is tons of room for airflow to the oil cooler and radiator. The angle of the picture is a bit deceiving. You'll have no issues with cooling with this product. I will get some better photos up tonight.

The front of my car is like this right now. Just curious if it's beneficial without the oem crash bar since it's wide open now.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcOkkMJH...n-by=nerdeddie

It looks to me that you are getting plenty of air to those filters!

I wouldn't be concerned.

Let's just sit back for those dyno results before we make extreme decisions. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything.. :drama:

I'm sure they they didn't mean it directly to you personally just more so skeptical of the product itself ;)

I myself would of liked to see some dyno numbers also. I'll be watching the thread tho thats for sure!

Thanks, TRIPS!!!

5 letters here, just for everybody out there in the 370Z forum: R-E-L-A-X
 

I agree, let's give Joe a chance to get the independent dyno results from the shops he listed (Specialty Z, Z1 Motorsports, Concept Z Performance, Houston Z, and MotoIQ) before we jump to any conclusions. I also don't think he's trying to call out current CAI manufactures and their claimed numbers or anything like that. I think he's just trying to let everybody know what he's working on.

Innovation is always welcome in book, especially on the N/A side of things. Sub'd for future dyno results.

First Dyno results are in as of 2/22/18.

The Dewla Dezign AIR-GUIDE made a surprising 7whp and 6ft-lb of torque

yesterday at Z1 MOTORSPORTS.

Same day A/B testing. We will know more details shortly.

In the meantime, someone owes me a 6 pack... ; )