Clutch Pedal After Cross Country Trip

MJB · 01-10-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

I agree to a certain extent. But a 2800mile road trip drive is no normal driving to me...considering your Z has 35k miles already without fluid change.
Anyway bottom line he needs to change his fluid.

2800 miles freeway driving is better than stop/go city driving.

*And Houston TX to Miami is 1100 miles

Spooler · 01-10-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

2800 miles freeway driving is better than stop/go city driving.

*And Houston TX to Miami is 1100 miles

Totally agree. It is easy on a car. Stop and go is rough. Z's love road trips.

Spooler · 01-10-2015, 02:02 PM

I will say that the under hood temps of these cars is hotter than most especially for the clutch master cylinder and inside the bell housing. Wish Nissan would have left the CSC on the outside of the bell housing like the older cars. Very easy to change. 10min job max.

By the way, just ran out and checked my fluid. It is starting to look crappy again just after 13,000 miles. I will be changing it again soon.

Zoren 370 · 01-10-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

2800 miles freeway driving is better than stop/go city driving.

*And Houston TX to Miami is 1100 miles

Op did say 2800 round trip drive.
I Definitely agree on this one that is why I said to a certain extent. Driving habits and maintenance care definitely plays a big role on any vehicles longevity specially on fluid changes.

I wish I can make that trip from FL to CA only if work would allow me 3 to 4 weeks off. Sad.

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 02:50 PM

Holy moly

Osiris · 01-10-2015, 02:52 PM

At minimum:
Complete fluid flush and replace with Motul. And the stainless steel clutch line.

My recommendation:
slave cylinder elimination kit, Motul, and new master cylinder. The elimination kit cost me around $1200 including installation. I will never have to deal with boiling fluid or csc failures again. So the cost may be high at first, but in long run will save a lot of hassle and inconvenience.

and i just saw your pic....that fluid is fried

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

2800 miles freeway driving is better than stop/go city driving.

*And Houston TX to Miami is 1100 miles

route i took was 1350 miles per way

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris

At minimum:
Complete fluid flush and replace with Motul. And the stainless steel clutch line.

My recommendation:
slave cylinder elimination kit, Motul, and new master cylinder. The elimination kit cost me around $1200 including installation. I will never have to deal with boiling fluid or csc failures again. So the cost may be high at first, but in long run will save a lot of hassle and inconvenience.

and i just saw your pic....that fluid is fried

I don't know how I feel about the CSC elimination kit... has anyone reporter any issues with that so far? I won't have to pay a lot for labor since a few close friends of mine have access to shops and are good, they're just rarely available. I do agree that it would be a great investment, I'm just iffy about it after reading the warnings from Z1

also, why do you suggest I change the CMC? Don't I have to drop the tranny for that?

MJB · 01-10-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lfrz93

I don't know how I feel about the CSC elimination kit... has anyone reporter any issues with that so far? I won't have to pay a lot for labor since a few close friends of mine have access to shops and are good, they're just rarely available. I do agree that it would be a great investment, I'm just iffy about it after reading the warnings from Z1

also, why do you suggest I change the CMC? Don't I have to drop the tranny for that?

YOu have it backwards. You have to drop the tranny to replace the CSC. The CMC is in the engine bay.

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

YOu have it backwards. You have to drop the tranny to replace the CSC. The CMC is in the engine bay.

Oh... Do I need to drop the tranny for the CSC elimination kit? I don't want to have to drop the tranny until I have enough money to upgrade clutch/flywheel

Edit: I'm ordering some motul now, will I need 1 or 2 500ml bottles? Might was well replace the line while I'm at it

Read T · 01-10-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lfrz93

Oh... Do I need to drop the tranny for the CSC elimination kit? I don't want to have to drop the tranny until I have enough money to upgrade clutch/flywheel

Edit: I'm ordering some motul now, will I need 1 or 2 500ml bottles? Might was well replace the line while I'm at it

A) Yes, tranny drop
B) I think you would be fine with 1, but it's always nice to have a spare. Heck, order 4 bottles and you will have enough to do brakes + clutch.

FWIW, I have 51k mi on my car and stock CSC, never had any problems except once when I was on older fluid and was double clutching (practice for my other car). I run PFC fluid, and DD and track my car. Just upgraded to the RJM.

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T

A) Yes, tranny drop
B) I think you would be fine with 1, but it's always nice to have a spare. Heck, order 4 bottles and you will have enough to do brakes + clutch.

FWIW, I have 51k mi on my car and stock CSC, never had any problems except once when I was on older fluid and was double clutching (practice for my other car). I run PFC fluid, and DD and track my car. Just upgraded to the RJM.

How's that RJM working out for you? I'm actually really interested on it.

I should prob learn to double clutch and heel-toe sometime soon, I just don't have anywhere to go and mess around, it's always a hassle to do anything here in Miami

Spooler · 01-10-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lfrz93

Holy moly

UGG, Coffee in the CMC. Not good. If this is your DD car, I would go ahead and change the CMC and CSC. I can't tell if you have sludge in it or not it's so bad. Fluid exchange and be prepared to replace it pretty soon.

Most folks say they don't get a warning before the CSC goes out. Yeah they do, this is it.

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

UGG, Coffee in the CMC. Not good. If this is your DD car, I would go ahead and change the CMC and CSC. I can't tell if you have sludge in it or not it's so bad. Fluid exchange and be prepared to replace it pretty soon.

Most folks say they don't get a warning before the CSC goes out. Yeah they do, this is it.

I've only driven the car for 10k miles. It was previously owned by a mechanic, so I'm shocked that he wasn't caring enough to have switched out the fluids.

It doesn't seem like sludge, it's just really dirty. I will keep you all updated, I will probably be doing this next weekend. I hope my baby holds up fine until then.

I know that for the CSC I will have to take it somewhere, will I have to take it somewhere to also get the CMC switched?

Thanks all

lfrz93 · 01-10-2015, 06:16 PM

Anyone have experience with this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VX...JBHTMEAAD48DGA

Or should I stick to motul?

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