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Z eliminator 10-29-2014 07:21 AM

It was the oil pump that damaged my moter.
I was turning 8100 when the oil can light came on my dash board>

Z

1slow370 10-29-2014 12:35 PM

Yeah for someone like Z eliminator the external pump would be great. They already have your motor and I know they have the A/c delete done it would probably just be a different bracket to mount up an external pump, then you would just need the remote oil pieces from a supercharger kit and have a new pickup welded into the pan and you too could join the high rev club. you already would have aftermarket rods and valves springs too right? so you could probably rev even harder than me.

indyn 10-30-2014 10:17 AM

1slow370, was it the cams or the custom IM that caused the major gains?

TerribleONE 10-30-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by indyn (Post 3016663)
1slow370, was it the cams or the custom IM that caused the major gains?

Im sure its a combination of both, and as he continues to rev it higher that manifold is going to become more and more critical.

1slow370 10-30-2014 12:16 PM

also I doubled checked and to install a dry sump or external pump it is necessary to remove the internal pump which requires the removal of the timing chains and covers.

Elmo370z 10-30-2014 04:08 PM

Were you running a stock oil pump when your motor let out?

RonRizz 10-30-2014 05:04 PM

Forgive me for asking, I'm not up on building engines, and all that, I really know nothing about it... But I was curious about the world record part..... What is it?
My next question is this... If the near 100 hp gain is the record, wouldn't it have been 10x cheaper to just use NO2 to get those gains, and still be NA?
Don't flame me, I really don't know these things.

megalapagas 10-30-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3017177)
Forgive me for asking, I'm not up on building engines, and all that, I really know nothing about it... But I was curious about the world record part..... What is it?
My next question is this... If the near 100 hp gain is the record, wouldn't it have been 10x cheaper to just use NO2 to get those gains, and still be NA?
Don't flame me, I really don't know these things.


Touché....you bring up a valid point 100whp Shot & Tune perhaps?

1slow370 10-30-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3017177)
Forgive me for asking, I'm not up on building engines, and all that, I really know nothing about it... But I was curious about the world record part..... What is it?
My next question is this... If the near 100 hp gain is the record, wouldn't it have been 10x cheaper to just use NO2 to get those gains, and still be NA?
Don't flame me, I really don't know these things.

NO2 is not Natural Aspiration, it is form of forced induction AKA shoving more air into the motor than it otherwise normally can. The world record is that I am making at least 20 more whp than anyone else with a vhr that isn't using FI. I have 100 more hp with the added stress of boost or nitrous. Deal.

RonRizz 10-30-2014 07:47 PM

Oh, OK.... I didn't realize that NO2 was considered to be forced induction. Thanks for clarifying.

1slow370 10-30-2014 07:52 PM

If it was considered NA then I have seen a NA 1200hp 67 bel air that ran ran 7's. If you could use the term all motor interchangeably then it is NA

Edit/elaboration: yeah 800 shot on a BBC with a hollinger toilet bowl on a built motor and he only went through two sets of copper headgaskets a year

Mitco39 10-30-2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3017248)
NO2 is not Natural Aspiration, it is form of forced induction AKA shoving more air into the motor than it otherwise normally can. The world record is that I am making at least 20 more whp than anyone else with a vhr that isn't using FI. I have 100 more hp with the added stress of boost or nitrous. Deal.



But can you imagine if you decided to add turbos at this point? :happydance:

SS_Firehawk 10-30-2014 09:49 PM

ThaThat would require an entirely different process to build the motor. The high lift cams would drop boost pressure and that expensive manifold wouldn't be worth the benefit. NA results, this is impressive. A compression boost would make this NA motor nasty

Eclipz 10-30-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 3017301)
But can you imagine if you decided to add turbos at this point? :happydance:

Do it, do it NOW!

1slow370 10-30-2014 10:25 PM

Nah if i turbo it would only be to 450whp, and since 400whp seems achievable at my next rebuild so meh

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