trouble shifting into 3rd 09 z
 

hey guys so i recently got my trans and diff fluid changed . i went with oem fluid from nissan. (no i didnt go redline for several reasons) anyways about 300 miles after the change..all shifts were smooth. then all the sudden today i was at a stop light, i go from 1st to 2nd then from 2nd to 3rd .. i could not get it into 3rd. it was just stuck. this happened 3 times before i got home. afterwards like 3 hours later i went back out to go get dinner...first couple of shifts were fine then it happened AGAIN. maybe i wasnt pushing the clutch all the way in. so from then on i made sure i pushed the clutch ALL THE WAY IN and then shifted to 3rd...still got stuck. im in panic mode because i just got the car it only has 21k miles on it and is not under warranty. im only 18 i dont have the money for a new trans nor the labor to put it in . worst part is sometimes i would try so hard to get it into 3rd i get it into first by accident and the RPMS go BOOMING. i need help with this problem guys please help me

Were you the one having trouble with the first to second gear before?
Now second to third?
Your on a roll!

No but on a more serious note. Try reflushing the fluids and try something else. I dont think its a problem with ur trans.

I wonder if the clutch needs bleeding...might not be releasing it fully. Easy to pop out, not so easy to get in.

Wish you were a little closer sometimes, would be easier to take it for a spin :-p

Also, if you're trying so hard to get it into 3rd that you are hitting first...don't take it personally, but I wonder if you're just a bit sloppy with the shifter and you are missing the gate. If the clutch wasnt releasing fully, it'd still go into gear - it'd just grind a bit. Even blown syncros are just going to cause a lot of grinding, which you aren't getting. Might want to work on your technique.

Like I told op, I'm in palisades park. Come.

Yeah, meet this dude, for sure.

Meme insert, not sure if serious or not. Hahaha

Dead serious lol. Im assuming you know how to drive stick fairly well, and another pair of eyes (or in this case, hands/feet) goes a long way towards solving almost ANY car problem.

thanks rob and minsu and rob no it went into 1st because i was trying so hard to get it into 3rd that it slipped i swear i shift properly i never had a problem getting into 3rd until today and minsu i would man but im always working and busy im in morris if u could come here thatd be great

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yeah i do know how to drive it pretty well. bleeding the clutch would be the best bet before getting into anything serious like the slave cylinder which im praying to god i wont need replaced bc i honestly cant afford that right now

Oooh morric county?! It's a nice drive up there tbh. About an hour away. I'm going to assume you have never driven any other z before this one? I'm going to say try tis, turn your car off and you should be able to shift without putting in the clutch just go through the gears like ten times, start the car, now clutch in abd ho through the gears ten times. Then try driving abd see if that will fix it. It can help you narrow down the issue

I doubt it's the clutch as well, unless the previous owner looked to launch the car and rev high and burn clutch while at the same time crunching gears I doubt it

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ok i will try that tomo before work. so 10 times clutch out start the car then 10 times clutch in? does the car have to be warm or can i do it on a cold start

well i mean rob sold it to some guy that sold it after a month so that guy couldve possibly done mad burnouts and **** i mean tires were bald when i got it

it doesnt matter. I mean if it was like 10 degrees then yea the clutch wont come off the floor on the initial push haha. But yea u Just want to make sure your knob goes into each gate without any effort. When i shift you dont hear it go into the gate it just slides in without any effort.

minsu if u have time maybe like this sunday or something my family owns a chinese restaurant i can hook u up with some food and maybe we can take a look at it ?!

And yea you want to just get in ur car, and just push ur shifter through each gate back and forth in ascending and then descending order without having your foot on the clutch.
Then start your car and do the same process but this time have your foot on the clutch.
But dont let go of the clutch.... LOL
Then just drive slowly to work while just gently pushing the shifter into each gate, dont force it but dont do it to slow either or ur gonna grind gears.
Then for like the nexxt 3 minutes push the car past 5-6k rpm and shift a bit more agressive. Then when your car is hot from a stop try finding enough space to be able to go from 0mph to about 70 mph shifting at 5k and see if it gets stuck.

it glides like butter when i shift and the cars not moving. its when im driving thats when it happens. and this issue usually happens above 3k rpm low rpm not an issue

ah hah!

And there we have it, try a different fluid. When did the car have fluids replaced.
Trans fluid, brake fluid, clutch, just all fluids?
Do you have service record?
Also im thinking hotter the car gets harder to shift?! Does that sound about right?

well according to rob the brakes were bled trans fluid and diff fluid changed 300 miles ago oil change 1k miles ago uhm...yeah thats it and nah it happens all the time i drove it today when the temp was at 180 and 220 happened both times

clutch fluid never changed

I never drag raced the car once, nor did a burn out lol. But i sold that car with at least 50% of the tires left, so i have no clue what that guy did. That is what worries me the most.

hermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I guess try starting with the clutch fluid then.

If not, ill set a date, you can drive mine ill drive yours and let see what the problem may be.

But again to reiterate, I really dont think its a trans issue.

And I dont think its a cylinder issue, unless your clutch peddle feels soft. Which I dont think thats the issue.

just so much going through my mind right now so many problems such little money i cant stop thinking if i need a new slave cylinder how much labor would cost and crap i may be over thinking maybe not but im stressed .

50% tread gone in a month ey?

I Drift and I still cant burn through that much tread in a month.

Clutch was last bled... Hell... Couple years ago. It's worth a shot (was my first recommendation). Remember, I was running Motul RBF600 for the clutch as well. You don't need much to bleed it.

can u meet around me maybe this friday at like 6 pm and we can try it. i may get the clutch fluid changed tomorrow or thursday . and the peddle doesnt really fee lsofter

One more question, does it get stuck when descending from fourth at 3-4k rpm as well
Or is it only apparent when your shifting from 2nd to 3rd

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nope only 2nd to 3rd. 1-2 is good 3-4 is good 4-5 is good 5-6 is good

Unless you specifically go out to waste some rubber. Which I bet he did... That kid was shifty as **** to me.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/vevuquze.jpg

Pic from sale date. Not easy to tell, but plain to see the damn tires weren't wasted lol

What about 4rth to 3rd

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/hyvemu4e.jpg

Even better. There's your front tire when I sold it.

Oh wth, thats mad tread

back was the worst front was ight and 4th to 3rd was fine today as well

Mmhmm. Saying it "only" had 50% was being conservative. Rear was about the same.

Yeah it would be if he ruined them lol.

hmm see now thats wierd down shifting no problem even though you cant get into the gate from 2nd if its at a medium-high rev. cause when you shift down from 3k rpm at 4 to third it would shoot to 4k rpm and ur saying its fine.
OMFG
Wierdddddd.
ughhh my brain

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/ny4edege.jpg

Rear, same picture. Best I can do. Easy to see tread.

Full picture, fwiw. With the flat bed, even.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/jyradumu.jpg

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lets jus meet up friday cant explain everything u gotta feel it