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ANMVQ 07-14-2014 08:08 AM

Lets talk oil coolers
 
Hi Guys,

Looking to grab an oil cooler , I have used the Stillen one and swear like everyone else on here our cars NEED one. Question is , All these I found are on Amazon. Thank you all :)

IS the Mishimoto MMOC-370Z-09 Oil Cooler Kit by really worth the extra 200$ over the Stillen one-
STILLEN 400643 Gold Series Oil Cooler Kit - Performance - 09-11 370Z (Excl Nismo) / 08-13 G37 /

An or has one used the Godspeed hell $195?
Godspeed Universal 10 ROW OIL Cooler KIT + 2 X High Quality Stainless Braided Nelon Hose ?

Last who is CORP?

http://www.amazon.com/AN-10AN-UNIVER...KV3H6FJE0D2DZ2

osbornsm 07-14-2014 08:47 AM

Stop whatever you're doing and buy the Z1 Motorsports kit.

They offer 19, 25, 34 row coolers with the exact length of hose and all the parts required.

:tiphat:

DEpointfive0 07-14-2014 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2894844)
Stop whatever you're doing and buy the Z1 Motorsports kit.

They offer 19, 25, 34 row coolers with the exact length of hose and all the parts required.

:tiphat:

:iagree:


I was gonna reply to this thread... But... Needs a computer for an essay reply

ROBERT1183 07-15-2014 07:33 AM

I just installed a 34 row Z1motorsports kit in my car. Love it. Best mod so far. My temps were at around 220 when I was just cruising before the install. If I started really driving it, it would climb to 240ish. Now after install my temp stays at 180 and that really driving it hard in 90 degree humid New Jersey days. Install went great. Kit fit with no issues. Great guys over there. Excellent customer service.

jwick 07-15-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2894791)
Hi Guys,

Looking to grab an oil cooler , I have used the Stillen one and swear like everyone else on here our cars NEED one. Question is , All these I found are on Amazon. Thank you all :)

IS the Mishimoto MMOC-370Z-09 Oil Cooler Kit by really worth the extra 200$ over the Stillen one-
STILLEN 400643 Gold Series Oil Cooler Kit - Performance - 09-11 370Z (Excl Nismo) / 08-13 G37 /

An or has one used the Godspeed hell $195?
Godspeed Universal 10 ROW OIL Cooler KIT + 2 X High Quality Stainless Braided Nelon Hose ?

Last who is CORP?

10 ROW AN-10AN UNIVERSAL ENGINE OIL COOLER KIT + ALUMINUM HOSE END - Air Tool Hose Reels - Amazon.com

Looks like most things are covered so I'll just drop in to say this, 'NEVER put Mishimoto products on your car'

We have a saying at my tuners shop, 'Friends don't let friends put Mishimoto parts on their cars!'

Presto 07-15-2014 01:42 PM

get the z1 motorsports one, no questions asked. /end thread

ART_Auto 07-15-2014 03:10 PM

Cant believe you put this thread up, there must be something in the air lol.

I was just about to make a post regarding oil cooling especially cooling when it comes to forced induction.

Im currently running the Stillen Gold Series Race oil cooler, 25 rows with AN8 fittings. We are running the stock front bumper/fascia with Stillen front lip and Stillen canards. On track around 20oC ambient temps we are able to get the oil up to around 120oC in around 10 minutes which is useless.

We are upgrading to the FrozenBoost charge cooler radiator so currently from the front to back:-

FrozenBoost Type 101 26x7x3.5 Radiator
Stillen Gold Series Race 25 Row Oil Cooler
Mishimoto Aluminium Radiator

So my conundrum is:

Option 1:- Using the current thermostatic plate with AN8 fittings and up rate the cooler to a 34 row x 235mm from APS and leave in the current position and add 8" electric fan.

Option 2:- Replace the thermostat with a Mocal sandwich plate with AN10 or AN12 fittings with APS 34 row x 235mm and leave in current position and add 8" electric fan.

Option 3:- Replace the thermostat with a Mocal sandwich plate with AN10 or AN12 fittings with APS 34 row x 235mm and leave in current position and attempt to position cooler in the driver side (UK right hand side) bumper below the headlight and put two 76mm intakes

Option 4:- Using the current oil cooler setup and move to driver side (UK right hand side) bumper below headlight and use oil cooler shroud with two 76mm intakes.

Option 5:- Replace thermostat with Mocal sandwich plate with AN10 or AN12 fittings and place a Setrab 592mm x 14 row (122mm) SLM cooler place right across the base of the radiator, kind of where the Stillen one sits except a lot longer yet shorter in height.

What do you guys think?

I dont really want to try all those options or I will be buying multiple bumpers and multiple coolers lol

ANMVQ 07-15-2014 03:37 PM

Agreed with Andrew, An why not install a temp switch that comes on when the oil hits 180? I never tacked my car but would get on it here and there in summer here 90's -100 and humid and never ran into an oil temp issue with my SC. I'm assuming you have the rad fans coming on full at 185 . Its not the oil cooler but the cooler the motor and area cant hurt.

An there is, LOL will probably stay with Stillen tho too

Spooler 07-15-2014 03:39 PM

My car get's to 220 deg F just cruising down the interstate at 75MPH in South Ga. heat. Ever sweat at night at 12:00am... LOL

ART_Auto 07-15-2014 03:47 PM

It's all about the position and the overall airflow though. It's no good if you can pump the cooler full of fresh air if the hot air coming out the back has no where to go.

Ideal scenario for me would be able to fit a 34 row cooler in where the washer bottle is with a custom made shroud, 8" electric fan on the back of it and vented wheel arch to pump the air out. That would be ideal. Got knows, need to take the bumper off again and measure up.

Misnomer 07-15-2014 04:18 PM

I'm definitely in need of an oil cooler -- 45 min of highway driving in Sunday's 90-degree temps had the needle at 250 degrees; can't imagine what 20 min on a track would do! -- and the Z1 Motorsports site does a great job of explaining the difference between all of the available options except one: what's the difference between a Mocal core and a Setrab core (other than $45?).

Please keep in mind that I know nothing about mechanics. :D

Spooler 07-15-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Misnomer (Post 2896854)
I'm definitely in need of an oil cooler -- 45 min of highway driving in Sunday's 90-degree temps had the needle at 250 degrees; can't imagine what 20 min on a track would do! -- and the Z1 Motorsports site does a great job of explaining the difference between all of the available options except one: what's the difference between a Mocal core and a Setrab core (other than $45?).

Please keep in mind that I know nothing about mechanics. :D

Setrab cores are rock solid. They have been used in racing applications forever. For $45 extra, get the Setrab.

Yutnaka 07-15-2014 11:03 PM

do you plan on getting Uprev? If so I would go with a smaller core since they can modify fan tables. I dont have an oil cooler but it cools down relatively fast. With that said, I am getting a 25 row oil cooler from Z1.

Misnomer 07-18-2014 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 2897209)
Setrab cores are rock solid. They have been used in racing applications forever. For $45 extra, get the Setrab.

Thanks. :)

brutusvk 07-18-2014 01:58 PM

Cannot say enough good things about my Z1 oil cooler. Even when it is 115 degrees out, the oil stays nice and cool.

bleunetizen 07-20-2014 06:08 AM

I'm using Stillen kit, 25row setrab core, the highest ive seen at the track yesterday was 110degC (230degF) with ambient temp of 10degC (50degF), that was after about 12min of hot laps

Corsairprime 07-21-2014 07:18 PM

Just installed the Mishimoto kit.
 
From what I read, almost everyone hates the Mishimoto kit. I am sorry people feel that way. My temps have been stable. Today for instance drove 40 minutes in 101° heat at 70-80 mph. Oil temps 185° low temp, to 215° at a high temp. No leaks and fits like a glove. I opted for the thermostatic sandwich plate too. The kit is very well thought out. Use the setrab radiator mount and you get to keep the cross brace strut on the Nismo. But what does that matter. You must go see for yourself. Oil temp control is key in the 370Z. Without it, you will not be enjoying track days.

ANMVQ 07-22-2014 10:51 AM

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ordered the Z1 19 row, Wrapped hoses and thermostatic plate . Will be install this over the weekend. Will be delivered tomorrow. I'm going to play with placement a little also and see if I can get it right in the opening in my front bumper. 09's only have that small square in the center of the bumper

ANMVQ 07-22-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yutnaka (Post 2897246)
do you plan on getting Uprev? If so I would go with a smaller core since they can modify fan tables. I dont have an oil cooler but it cools down relatively fast. With that said, I am getting a 25 row oil cooler from Z1.

I do have UPREV and the first thing I had them do was change the fans settings, I knew about this from before , 2nd time around with UPREV :tiphat:

ANMVQ 07-23-2014 12:47 PM

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Just got confirm it's at my house :)

atomic aces 07-23-2014 01:51 PM

I'm trying to make it through this Summer with the stock cooler, but I'll be purchasing Fast Intentions 34 row by Spring 2015 at the latest.

ART_Auto 07-23-2014 02:35 PM

I have gone ahead an upgraded our oil cooling:-

2 x Setrab 25 Row x 235mm with An10 fittings.

Hopefully this will keep her cool.

ANMVQ 07-28-2014 08:30 AM

Tired Saturday took a lot apart look at things and had to put it back together, Wife had plans at 2pm and is was 930am, No was was I getting it done by then :(. I do everything on the ground and was going to rain Sunday. Next weekend I guess

ANMVQ 08-04-2014 08:01 AM

Still sitting in my shed :( No time!! Just may pay for it.

G37Sam 08-04-2014 08:24 AM

While we're talking oil coolers, are there any kits that use OEM oil filters?

Read T 08-04-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 2918524)
While we're talking oil coolers, are there any kits that use OEM oil filters?

Z1

1slow370 08-04-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 2918524)
While we're talking oil coolers, are there any kits that use OEM oil filters?

As in the oil filter used after you install the sandwhich plate? on regular cooler kits they all use the oem filter.

G37Sam 08-04-2014 04:27 PM

Yeah.. we couldn't get the OEM Oil Filter to mate on the Stillen Adapter for instance and had to have all the filters shipped from the US. Will the Z1 adapter accept OEM filters?

1slow370 08-04-2014 07:48 PM

Yes as well as gtm, nismo, mocal 20mm, I guess the cheap sandwhich plate stillen uses has a different thread.

G37Sam 08-05-2014 03:43 AM

Thanks for the info sir!

Corsairprime 01-17-2015 09:20 AM

With my Mishimoto setup I am using the K&N filter. Fits right and has a 25mm hex fitting on the tip to make it easy on or off with a box wrench. Opinions on the K&N oil filter are welcome. So far they are doing the job.


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