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jamesj1996 06-28-2014 07:02 PM

1st to 2nd gear hard to shift..
 
Hey guys so recently ive been having some issues shifting from 1st to 2nd. Its like when I shift its a grind and a clunk gettin into 2nd . When im not driving and jus put the clutch in to move gears around..its smooth. ..like super smooth but the moment I start driving its hard to get into 2nd....my car has 20k miles on it. Trans fluid recommends change at 30..

Minsu 06-28-2014 09:39 PM

..............try not to shift at low rpms from 1st to second, try shifting at 3500 and hold the clutch in longer after you shift this will take care of ur problem 100%

Minsu 06-28-2014 09:40 PM

And where in NJ are you, ill personally pick u up and teach you.

jamesj1996 06-28-2014 10:41 PM

thanks
 
ok thanks ill try this. maybe i have been either letting off the clutch too soon or not pushing it all the way in. i just hope its not a trans issue

Minsu 06-28-2014 11:38 PM

I can almost guarantee you it's not, why? I had the same problem

lj909 06-29-2014 02:22 AM

:iagree: I can attest to this as well. I even took it to the dealer. its just getting used to the feel of the tranny.

jamesj1996 06-29-2014 08:34 AM

thanks
 
thanks alot guys i'll give it a try i jus let alot of things get to my head

mab864 06-29-2014 10:30 AM

You can try a couple simple mods that help too. I replaced my stock tranny fluid with Redline MT85 & I installed a weighted shift knob. Easy mods and my shift from 1-2 is much improved. Agreed on the technique as well. Another thing to try when shifting at low RPM from 1-2 is to make the shift very slowly. I use this technique until my oil warms up and then after that I shift at 3500.

Redglare 06-29-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mab864 (Post 2878411)
You can try a couple simple mods that help too. I replaced my stock tranny fluid with Redline MT85 & I installed a weighted shift knob. Easy mods and my shift from 1-2 is much improved. Agreed on the technique as well. Another thing to try when shifting at low RPM from 1-2 is to make the shift very slowly. I use this technique until my oil warms up and then after that I shift at 3500.

+1 on all those points.

cold 1-2 shift was hard even on 07-08 350z HR's

redline mt85 2 quart and amsoil syncromesh 2 quarts makes it feel like butter even when cold

shift at 3500

mag_black 06-29-2014 12:28 PM

I had this problem myself. Any fast shifting would grind into 2nd, no matter how long I held the clutch in. I found the issue was w/ my shifting style.

2011 Nismo#91 06-29-2014 03:40 PM

Replacing the stock fluid may help.

ka24king 06-30-2014 02:16 AM

Ok no I have another question I was at te 1/4 track tonight and go pretty pissed! Almost everytime I tried to shift from 1st to 2nd it would grind or just not let me slot it at all. Why is this ?

ka24king 06-30-2014 02:25 AM

It may be the way I shift but I never had this issue before the NST SSK so I guess I have to wait till next weekend but besides that what else could it be

Davey 06-30-2014 06:05 AM

Depends on how fast you're shifting, but it sounds like a worn synchro issue to me.

Taylorcam11 12-22-2014 12:43 PM

I have just started having this problem going into first and then going into second.....and only when its cold outside.....my Z is a 2014 with 3,800 miles on it......any help?

ayrton88 12-22-2014 04:59 PM

My 1st gear is a little reluctant first thing on a cold morning. After a couple stops it loosens up. That said, I'm talking Chicago cold, not North Carolina "cool". I had a BMW before the Z and it had the most wonderful gearbox...it didn't matter if it was -10, it went into each gear like butter. Hated the damn clutch though with it's Clutch Delay Valve for guys that didn't know how to drive a stick. What it did was smooth shifts by slipping the clutch which resulted in premature wear which resulted in BMW making a fortune on new clutches. I had my valve removed.

thangcu35 12-23-2014 11:56 AM

The reason why its grinding is because the fluid is still too thick when its cold. Synchronizer's job is to grab the gears to match the output/input shaft speed and thick fluid delays the time it can do so. holding down the clutch pedal longer does nothing to help the issue, but slowing down the motion of the shift knob will help because it gives the synchronizer more time to match the speed before you jam it into gears. Thinner fluid will improve synchronizer speed in cold climate also.

nis350 12-23-2014 04:40 PM

just do 'double clutch'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thangcu35 (Post 3063853)
The reason why its grinding is because the fluid is still too thick when its cold. Synchronizer's job is to grab the gears to match the output/input shaft speed and thick fluid delays the time it can do so. holding down the clutch pedal longer does nothing to help the issue, but slowing down the motion of the shift knob will help because it gives the synchronizer more time to match the speed before you jam it into gears. Thinner fluid will improve synchronizer speed in cold climate also.


wsarver 12-24-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3064168)
just do 'double clutch'.

I'd find a way to screw that up worse than the clunk going into 2nd haha


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