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NewYorkJon34 09-17-2009 11:28 PM

*New* parts coming??
 
The aftermarket seems really slow for the 370Z, and I would think more companys would be developing cool new parts such as intake manifolds, maybe new TB/TB spacer, cams, Torque dampener (Ingalls ETD) etc...

The 370Z is a beautiful looking car with a great motor that seems to respond really well with intake/exhaust. I know the VVEL is being a pain for tuning, but is that whats slowing down R&D on exciting new parts?

nogoodname 09-17-2009 11:32 PM

there's already more parts out for the 370z than the G37... so hold ur horses

batman_4 09-17-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 203079)
but is that whats slowing down R&D on exciting new parts?

i want to say maybe the economy :confused:

NewYorkJon34 09-17-2009 11:45 PM

ya, thats what I thought too, with the poor economy its no wonder some parts for this car are soo expense.

black09Z 09-18-2009 12:06 AM

cant make a spacer for our intake manifold cause its not made like the other vq's manifold (g35, 350z) however kenetix is working on an aftermarket manifold for us. and as far as tuning goes. get a cobb access port till something crazy comes out

M.Bonanni 09-18-2009 01:10 AM

When the economy was better and companies were making more money, a lot of the larger ones would just buy a car themselves and develop parts off of it. These days they rely on customers to drop their cars off for R&D and the amount of people who can leave their car with a company for weeks or months at a time is very slim. It also costs a lot of money to R&D a new part and vehicle sales aren't very high so its a big mix of situations revolving around nobody having any expendable cash. Just a sign of the times.

NewYorkJon34 09-18-2009 01:18 AM

Its def sad what the economy has done to everything, Im excited to see the kenetix intake manifold when ever it comes out.

1slow370 09-18-2009 04:00 AM

the 370z is a lot more locked up than the 350z so it costs more to do the same things. Companies need more R&D work to get the parts working. You can't change the gearing without screwing up the SRM, Due to the VVEL assembly there are no cams to upgrade, roots blowers are harder to adapt because the throttlebodies are open most of the time now and it would never see vaccum.

Once some good ecu tuning software or a replacement ecu is released you'll start seeing more parts hitting the market.

kannibul 09-18-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 203216)
it would never see vaccum.

If that's true, then how are they running power brakes and so on?

NewYorkJon34 09-18-2009 01:35 PM

One part I saw that stillen made for the 350Z was a torque dampener, I had one installed on my 07 Civic Si (ingalls etd) and I def noticed a difference. I hope stillen is planning on making one for the 370Z.

NewYorkJon34 09-18-2009 02:09 PM

I e-mailed Ingalls about a possible 370Z ETD and they responded with "No plans for that vehicle at this time". So I guess Stillen is our only hope for a 370Z torque dampener :(

JoeD 09-18-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 203782)
I e-mailed Ingalls about a possible 370Z ETD and they responded with "No plans for that vehicle at this time". So I guess Stillen is our only hope for a 370Z torque dampener :(

Why would one want to exacerbate the NVH of the engine into the passenger compartment?

NewYorkJon34 09-18-2009 03:13 PM

I barely felt the vibration in my last car, and the throttle response was real sharp. Different cars I know, but they made it for the 350z, so why not the 370Z? The 2 parts I'm really looking foward to are the F.I. Headers and the possible kenetix intake manifold.

nogoodname 09-18-2009 03:37 PM

f.i headers are going to be released soon, takes time to bend all the pipes and then make a jig

Z1Performance 09-18-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 203079)
The aftermarket seems really slow for the 370Z, and I would think more companys would be developing cool new parts such as intake manifolds, maybe new TB/TB spacer, cams, Torque dampener (Ingalls ETD) etc...

The 370Z is a beautiful looking car with a great motor that seems to respond really well with intake/exhaust. I know the VVEL is being a pain for tuning, but is that whats slowing down R&D on exciting new parts?

The justification to spend the time (and money) in R&D is just not there. Nowadays, this industry as a whole is slow. Couple that to a car that is still new to market, and does not have tons of units sold yet (especialyl relative to the previous model) and it becomes pretty clear that things will be this way for quite some time.

I don't think you will ever see cams sold for the car at all - simply far too costly to develop. Nissan has so far 0 competition plans with the new car, which means blanks will not be offered for those who have the means to grind their own cam. Forging your own blanks is simply far too cost prohibitive, as there is a miniscule market for those who would buy them.

Throttle body spacers are certainly easy to do, but utterly useless (zero performance gain, their only advantage would be for forced induction guys looking for a nice and easy way to install a boost gauge). Intake manifold development is extremely time consuming and costly, and given the lack of fully programmable ecu's for the car, would not offer any real gain for any developer.

The previous Z's never needed a torque dampener, neither do the new ones. Civic Si, different story - the factory mounts are very soft on that car (we have one, so I know that car pretty well too ;)


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