*New* parts coming??

NewYorkJon34

Is it just a matter of time till someone cracks the VVEL system?

Denny McLain

Doing a cam change with a laptop is one hell of a lot more appealing than taking a week to just get the grease out from under your fingernails. If it actually works that way. For sure I'm hanging on till the verdict comes in.

[QUOTE=RCZ;206938]I wouldn't get a Vette and frankly I can't think of anything I would rather have within this price range. Vettes are fast, but I can't get over how disconnected and cheap they feel.
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Finally figured out why I had so much trouble with the C4 or my 69 427....they were crappy built cars. Not that they were over modded or overbuilt, just not reliable cars to start with. Completely passed on a C5 for the quality issues. The seats were good for about 15-25 k before the leather wore though.

Will have to say though the evolution of LSx engine is outstanding in every way. Rented a new C6 about a month ago and drove around Dana Point on hwy 1. Don't get me wrong, 370's are fun cars to drive, a hell of a hit for the money and driving one puts a grin on my face. However, the Vette engine overcomes a lot of issues. The acceleration over 60mph is what really gets your attention as they feel as strong 60-90 mph as the Z does 40-70 mph. Now, if they just didn't fall apart.

RCZ

^ I agree, the torque on that motor is very addictive, but even after driving a C6 Z06, I still feel like what I'm telling it to do is being translated into a different language and then back before it reaches the car. Also the interior...its unbelievably bad in ANY trim. Even the ZR1 is a mess.

JoeD

I will have to disagree...the interior on the '08+ Vette, even without the optional 4LT/Z extended leather, is worlds better than early C6s. I wouldn't say they are bad at all, and my brother's with 25K on the clock doesn't have a single rattle or squeak. Sure the seats and leather-quality leave a lot to be desired, but the overall build and feel of the interior is perfectly fine. Take into consideration that no other car under $120K performs even close to it.

The interior quality and materials in a C6 are on the same level as the 370Z. Sure, there is quite a price gap, but that doesn't come without a gap in performance as well...

1slow370

thats it it's official you need to be the first guy on here to do an LS swap.

Edit: Although I will not accept anything less than an ls7,x,9. Definitely not the new camaro engine either. In fact NO camaro engines or you will be tried for treason.

Z1Performance

I'll agree, the previous Vette's were certainly lacking in the interior department, but the 08's are very nice and tidy inside

Denny McLain

Came this close () to buying a 09 Z51 for $43K and some change which was sitting on a dealers floor across the street from the Nissan dealer. Chevy was offering a employee $10K discount. Instead, ordered a 370Z sport model that I believe was around $33k and placed an $8k deposit. They had one located and the car was to be there in two days. Two weeks later no car.

Being there was a hot rodded C4 sitting in the garage it just wasn't good karma with the wife to bring another Vette home. However two weeks later no car so called the Nissan dealer up to cancel the order. The Nissan dealer countered with a $3K discount on a Touring/Sport model for $37.5K. Auh....OK.

The Touring level trim with navigation certainly is nicer, but pragmatically only a $6k price difference which I'm already close to spending on 370Z mods. Now we have apples to apples on the money, about 40 hp less even after mods but with a bit nicer interior.

Sounds like a rock and a hard spot. Still had a lot of Vett problems though.

RCZ

I still respectfully disagree guys, I don't really see much of a difference between a new pickup truck interior and the interior of the new vettes. Seems like they vetterized the interior of an avalanche or something. You bring up the price tag... there's NO doubt the Z06 and any vette for that matter is amazing bang for the buck. While it is a matter of materials as well, its more so a matter of interior design and look. There's painted plastic everywhere! I think they could do a MUCH better job with the same budget if they simply took a more european approach to it. Don't get me started on the seats either... If it weren't for these things, I'd be strolling around in a Vette for sure.

As for the LSx swap...not a bad idea. I know theres a few LSx Z33's out there that perform beautifully. Great motor, very light weight too. I wouldn't be surprised if a newer LSx motor would be lighter than our V6. Wouldn't have to go FI, less moving parts, more torque, fitting it shouldnt be much of a problem and you can pick one up for not that much... May not be that bad of an Idea...

Mike

You guys are funny. The interior of
my c6 is way better than the 350z it replaced. Sure the 370 is nicer, but it's also a newer design. Plus you can easily mod the vette and get significant gains. You can even reprogram the stock ecu to handle FI without a piggyback.

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JoeD

An LS7 370Z would be awesome...there are several making close to 650 RWHP in Corvettes NA. Then again...you could just save all the money and headache of such a project and just buy a Z06. I would also agree...I'm sure an LS7 weighs less than the VQ. There was a lot of controversy when LS1 FD RX-7s were popping up over 6 years ago, with people thinking the engines were so heavy. Turned out even an LS1 was only marginally heavier than the FD's 13B with the turbos.

If the Corvette doesn't meet your refined tastes for an interior, you can always send the car to Caravaggio and he can set off a leather/Alcantara bomb in it...

black09Z

looks nice for a car show, just dont sit on it, drink in it, eat in it or do anything that might make a mark or you might as well highlight it cause everybody is gonna know. haha. like the dirt on your mat and the wrinkles in your seat already

JoeD

Umm...ok. If this were the case, just opt for black leather instead, or any color-combination you can think of.

I was highlighting the fact that the interior can very easily be upgraded.

Denny McLain

If I recall correctly that Z06 was for sale and posted on the Corvette Forum. Just how much do you think it costs to do an interior like that?

The new Vette interior is OK, think my Sport/Touring package is a tad nicer than a stand Vette interior plus I hear a lot of complaints regarding the GM navigation system.

As mentioned, if I can't get the car tuned properly, the cam timing controlled and the little issues sorted out, a new blue Grand Sport with classic white center stripe, red hash marks and black wheels really does appeal to me. My biggest problem is slightly gun shy of GM's quality in general. Certainly nothing to do with performance even with the "little" LS3.

JoeD

Yes, it was indeed for sale not too long ago ago. It's very tastefully modified with around 530 WHP on top of the beautiful interior.

Caravaggio Corvettes is the shop that did the interior-work on this car and they are the best in the business. A complete job like that will run upwards of $25K.

Zguy

Personally I think its the ugliest interior I have ever seen. Its a desecration of a nice looking car. I wouldnt eat in it but I would also rather ride in a 10 year old kia..... The performance of the Corvette is undenyable but in my opinion the interior is majorly lacking. It has no style and is cheaply made. The flagship of Chevy should be 100% in all aspects not just exterior and performance. Plus for people who want to add body kits and have their car look apart from the pack you cant really do anything to the exterior of the Vette. The Z is way more mod friendly when it comes to exterior mods for sure. Overall the car is much more refined. On my 15 min drive to school I probably see 10 vettes.... I rarely see a 370.... or many 350z's for that matter....