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ZeN 06-22-2014 10:39 PM

Something leaking at the steering rack
 
Does anybody knew what kind of seals behind this thing. I didnt see any power steering level drop so i wonder what it is. What would be the the effect if i tighten that nut

http://www.the370z.com/members/zen-a...3494292088.jpg

lately the steering felt loose and this could be the reason. How do we adjust the steering wheel tension? I want to get that heavy steering feel back.

Fountainhead 06-23-2014 01:18 PM

Hey! My Z leaks there too! It's not as dirty as yours but yes, I had to wipe it off. I have no reservoir low issues, and it's not a drip yet. I have no idea whether to spin that nut or not, could look in the FSM.

Akurei 06-23-2014 02:57 PM

If I'm correct, I think that bolt is your steering wheel tensioner. If it's leaking, probably an indication it is getting a little loose. However you don't want it too tight

MJB 06-23-2014 03:44 PM

I have a slight leak from there as well.

megalapagas 06-23-2014 03:51 PM

Sooo pretty much just "tighten" it a little?? Have this issue as well and I was about to drop in a "Bar's Poeer steering leak sealer" from Oreillys.

ZeN 06-24-2014 07:42 AM

Thanks, so that bolt is the steering wheel tensioner, that would means if i were to tighten that one i would get back my heavy steering feels..correct ? Just want some confirmation before i do it tomorrow.

Q8y_drifter 06-28-2014 03:56 PM

Loose steering feel at higher speeds, slight vibration and slight leak at the steering rack adjustment nut on my car.
Subscribed for updates. Let me know how it goes. Tried looking in the FSM for adjustment procedures and there was nothing at all.

DEpointfive0 06-28-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2870555)
Sooo pretty much just "tighten" it a little?? Have this issue as well and I was about to drop in a "Bar's Poeer steering leak sealer" from Oreillys.

Never wanna do crap like that unless it's your LAST possible option...

MJB 07-08-2014 10:13 AM

Any updates?

Fountainhead 07-08-2014 11:25 AM

I've read that you don't want to adjust that nut unless you have factory training and / or some method to verify the adjustment is within tolerance.
I have no leak significant enough to warrant messing with it, but mine is wet and dirt adheres to it. I just wipe it off every couple of months.

I've also read on these forums that Nissan incorporates speed adjusted Power Steering that tightens or loosens the turning resistance depending on speed of the vehicle.

Q8y_drifter 07-08-2014 07:16 PM

So I drove my car up the ramps today, cleaned up the area from all the grease and grime with degreaser and a shop towel and tightened the nut about 1/3 of a turn. Took it out for a test drive and steering definitely feels better and tighter than before, BUT steering was still loose, particularly at higher speeds.
Went back home again, up the ramps, tightened another 1/3 turn and took it for a second test drive. MUCH better. Now it tracks straight when driving at high way speeds and you feel directly connected to the tires unlike before.
So far it's about 2/3 turn in than when I started. My tires are pretty bad and are causing quite a lot of vibrations at highway speeds so I'm going to be replacing them soon. I'm going to keep a close eye on its handling and steering feel after new tires and realignment. I might tighten the nut a tiny bit more afterwards.

FYI, the nut IIRC is 23mm. You'll need to use a 23mm wrench/spanner to tighten it due to lack of space.

Fountainhead 07-09-2014 10:31 AM

The first thing that comes to mind is how did it get loose in the first place and how do I keep it where I left it if it loosened in the first place. Can't thread lock it because of the fluid contamination and can't nock the threads at current position because one day you may have to remove it....I guess scribe a mark where you like the tension and then at least you have a reference point to refer to the next time it loosens.

Spooler 07-09-2014 10:06 PM

That nut adjust the play in between the gears in the rack. If you tighten it too much your steering wheel will not return to center as it is supposed to. You may have some slight wear in the gears. Just be careful that the wheel will return to center on it's own and not get stuck.

Q8y_drifter 07-11-2014 06:33 PM

Went up the ramps today and tightened the nut another ~1/5 of a turn or so. Felt some resistance this time. Took it out for a test drive and it's as tight as stock now. Steering wheel feels heavier yet has no issues returning to center at all. It tracks straight as an arrow at high speeds even when driving over rough patches of asphalt. It used to be unpredictable and downright scary to drive on rough sections on highway roads before and I assumed it was my worn out front tires. Steering and maneuvering is far better as well.

I still haven't replaced my tires yet (planning on powder coating wheels, doing both in one go), so will update again once I do so.

Z-Girl 12 07-11-2014 09:33 PM

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Spooler 07-11-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter (Post 2892806)
Went up the ramps today and tightened the nut another ~1/5 of a turn or so. Felt some resistance this time. Took it out for a test drive and it's as tight as stock now. Steering wheel feels heavier yet has no issues returning to center at all. It tracks straight as an arrow at high speeds even when driving over rough patches of asphalt. It used to be unpredictable and downright scary to drive on rough sections on highway roads before and I assumed it was my worn out front tires. Steering and maneuvering is far better as well.

I still haven't replaced my tires yet (planning on powder coating wheels, doing both in one go), so will update again once I do so.

Good deal. That is about as good as you are going to get. I would do a PS fluid exchange just to be sure you don't have any metal in the system. You can do it with a PS fluid exchange system or remove the return line going to the reservoir, extent it into a 5 gallon buck, and have someone start the car while you poor fluid in. The danger is running the pump dry. Do not let it run dry. Bad things will happen so shut the car off quick if it get's close.

Limeybastard 02-11-2015 10:17 PM

Just did my third oil change a few hours ago. Being the fussy bitxx that I am , I tend to inspect most things when under the car.

Guess what I see? Yep that same bolt weeping oil @ 11529 miles.

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wsarver 02-12-2015 11:07 AM

Jeez I wonder what mine looks like at 55k miles...I never looked.

Limeybastard 02-21-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 3109742)
Jeez I wonder what mine looks like at 55k miles...I never looked.

So long as the pas fluid tank is full don't bother.

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JARblue 08-18-2016 09:35 PM

I tried adjusting this nut today. 5-1/2 years and 82K miles on my Z and lots more gunk around the nut than in OP's pic. About 3/4 turn got it to tighten up a bit. But I gave it at least another 1/2 turn and am still not happy with the play in the steering wheel. FWIW, I had a lot of trouble finding a 23 mm socket in local stores - a 15/16 spline socket ended up working just fine. I have an appt with a dealer tomorrow to look at something else, so I'll have them check this out at the same time.

Update: I had the dealer replace the steering rack two months later under warranty. They also confirmed that nut should not be adjusted. After replacement the steering returned to normal - no issues after 6 months.

Black Squirre 09-05-2016 07:08 PM

Is this under the car? or through the engine bay? I might have to have this adjusted My "new" 2014 with 2k Miles Has real light steering, My old 2011 roadster felt Much tighter.

JARblue 09-06-2016 10:14 AM

It is easily visible under the car.

JARblue 09-06-2016 10:17 AM

Here is an interesting post I found ... I am going to be pushing for steering rack replacement under warranty it looks like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 3548806)
Regarding tightening the rack and pinion nut, I too have a 2014 coupe and was experiencing "loose" steering, as evidended by the steering wheel doing a quick left-right-left-right shimmy when I hit bumps in the road that affected only one front wheel.

I brought the car to the dealership, and the tech tightened that nut about one full turn. That made an immediate huge difference in steering feel. On-center feel was much more pronounced, and the steering generally had more heft and resisted the aforementioned shimmy. HOWEVER, the steering would no longer self-center when making a turn; I had to manually guide the wheel all the way back to center. So I returned to the dealership and had them loosen the nut 3/4 turn, which cured the new problem and caused the old problem to return.

I spoke to a Nissan master tech who works at an independent shop, and he said never to tighten that nut, as it casuses the gears in the steering to bind, which is obviously detrimental long-term. So yes, this is yet another case of a dealership's service department not knowing its products well enough to implement the proper solution, which in this case may be replacement of the steering rack.


Ghostvette 09-06-2016 02:53 PM

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Black Squirre 09-06-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3548816)
It is easily visible under the car.


Thank you

killrain 11-16-2017 04:52 PM

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killrain 11-17-2017 02:07 PM

Also it is possible to reach the nut without jacking the car up or using ramps (if its at stock height).

JARblue 11-17-2017 02:09 PM

Not a chance

osburnrs 12-14-2017 09:30 PM

I think if you look close you’ll find that it’s leaking on top where the steering column goes into the gearbox. I put mine up on stands and rotated the shaft and watched it leak out of there. I track mine and have voided every warranty but Nissan is going to take a look at it. I also had to change the ps hose because it had a pin hole in it it ($200). My 2015 has the stock ps cooler but it still boils the fluid and it leaks by the pump too. I’m glad I found this post so I can share it with the dealer. Thanks for taking the time to post.


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killrain 12-15-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarblue (Post 3708051)
not a chance

actually you are able to reach it without jacking it up. Ive been doing it. I just use an extension.

Rusty 12-18-2017 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osburnrs (Post 3715174)
I think if you look close you’ll find that it’s leaking on top where the steering column goes into the gearbox. I put mine up on stands and rotated the shaft and watched it leak out of there. I track mine and have voided every warranty but Nissan is going to take a look at it. I also had to change the ps hose because it had a pin hole in it it ($200). My 2015 has the stock ps cooler but it still boils the fluid and it leaks by the pump too. I’m glad I found this post so I can share it with the dealer. Thanks for taking the time to post.


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If you are tracking. Don't fill the reservoir to the full line. Keep it at the add line. It won't boil out of the reservoir at that level. Also use the Z1 steering cooler. ;)

osburnrs 01-26-2020 08:15 AM

Mine leaks from the steering column as well.


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tonythetiger 04-19-2023 09:19 PM

the year is 2023 and I too notice steering leak, very small residue present. no loss in fluid reservoir


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