66K Is it too late to go full synthetic?

FPenvy · 06-24-2014, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

because synthetics dont naturally degrade do to heat stress thats "why bother" in a perfect machine with no flaws you can essentially use synthetic oil for the lifetime of the machine. My old job had machines that used full synth oil and didnt need to be changed for 15-20 years as long as the FILTER was always changed at the interval the oil companies have padlove trained all your dumb asses into believing it needs to be changed. of course they are going to tell you it needs changed every 6000 miles. WHO POCKETS FROM YOUR STUPIDITY. they would tell you that you need to change it every 2.5 seconds if they could get away with it without someone FINALLY raising a suspicious eyebrow lol. ****, i remember growing up it used to be every 10k miles, sometimes even 15. now its 6-7500. I have actually tested this. I ran royal purple in my subi for 4 years and just swapped out K&N filters "its a bi7ch" and after all that time the oil was still as clean as ever. although I also have a RE magnet drain plug but I would never find anything on it so it ether doesn't work or the oil is doing its job.

switching from conventional to synth doesn't matter. switching from synth to conventional does. and synth eating seals ...... thats long in the past, additives have since gotten so much better. just dont put that high mileage **** in, it has weird detergents and other crap in it to fight "engine buildup"

if you dont believe me, theres plenty of googling to be done. by all means second check.

sooooooooooooooooooooooo you're saying i can leave the same 6 quarts in my Z for the lifetime of the car but just change the filter?

i would first like to say that's retarded. have you ever seen oil at the time of change? mine usually looks like it needs it and also if you run a Z hard without a oil cooler theres a good chance you may have burned off some oil as well no matter if its conventional or full syn.

also i would like to see you drop the filter off of an oil pan that is full and put a new one on as the oil in it dumps out on you

sadly this all made sense when i saw you owned a "subie"

jwick · 06-24-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

because synthetics dont naturally degrade do to heat stress thats "why bother" in a perfect machine with no flaws you can essentially use synthetic oil for the lifetime of the machine. My old job had machines that used full synth oil and didnt need to be changed for 15-20 years as long as the FILTER was always changed at the interval the oil companies have padlove trained all your dumb asses into believing it needs to be changed. of course they are going to tell you it needs changed every 6000 miles. WHO POCKETS FROM YOUR STUPIDITY. they would tell you that you need to change it every 2.5 seconds if they could get away with it without someone FINALLY raising a suspicious eyebrow lol. ****, i remember growing up it used to be every 10k miles, sometimes even 15. now its 6-7500. I have actually tested this. I ran royal purple in my subi for 4 years and just swapped out K&N filters "its a bi7ch" and after all that time the oil was still as clean as ever. although I also have a RE magnet drain plug but I would never find anything on it so it ether doesn't work or the oil is doing its job.

switching from conventional to synth doesn't matter. switching from synth to conventional does. and synth eating seals ...... thats long in the past, additives have since gotten so much better. just dont put that high mileage **** in, it has weird detergents and other crap in it to fight "engine buildup"

if you dont believe me, theres plenty of googling to be done. by all means second check.

Quit spreading your filth around here. I ran RP for all 140k miles on my IS300. Changed it every 5k. It never was as clean as when it went in. Went in purple came out looking like every other syn I've ever drained from a car.

OP you are better off ignoring anything Chii posts

exsanity · 06-24-2014, 08:42 AM

To say that any kind of oil will last the life of the engine is a gross overstatement. As Presto mentioned, as the oil heats up it boils and/or breaks down. It will also collect deposits from the combustion.

chii370 · 06-24-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Quit spreading your filth around here. I ran RP for all 140k miles on my IS300. Changed it every 5k. It never was as clean as when it went in. Went in purple came out looking like every other syn I've ever drained from a car.

OP you are better off ignoring anything Chii posts

no reason to get hostile because you disagree. Would appreciate you not badmouthing me. just saiyan. If you wanna bad mouth, come on out to manassas park VA I would be happy to teach you some manners free of charge "except your inevitable hospital bill".

Bitch comments from others aside, it seems I was wrong. oh noes, end of the world. oh wait, how about I just admit to it and we move on. No need to be childish cunts about it. defense justified.

falconfixer · 06-24-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370

no reason to get hostile because you disagree. Would appreciate you not badmouthing me. just saiyan. If you wanna bad mouth, come on out to manassas park VA I would be happy to teach you some manners free of charge "except your inevitable hospital bill".

Bitch comments from others aside, it seems I was wrong. oh noes, end of the world. oh wait, how about I just admit to it and we move on. No need to be childish cunts about it. defense justified.

Quoted and reported

DavidZ370 · 06-28-2014, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

no reason to get hostile because you disagree. Would appreciate you not badmouthing me. just saiyan. If you wanna bad mouth, come on out to manassas park VA I would be happy to teach you some manners free of charge "except your inevitable hospital bill".

Bitch comments from others aside, it seems I was wrong. oh noes, end of the world. oh wait, how about I just admit to it and we move on. No need to be childish cunts about it. defense justified.

Are you serious right now? am I really sharing oxygen with people like you.

SouthArk370Z · 06-24-2014, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

because synthetics dont naturally degrade do to heat stress thats "why bother" in a perfect machine with no flaws you can essentially use synthetic oil for the lifetime of the machine. ...

Wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. All lubes, synthetic or not, break down with use. And even if they didn't break down, the essential additives do. Then there is the stuff that even the best filters can't remove.

jwick · 06-24-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. All lubes, synthetic or not, break down with use. And even if they didn't break down, the essential additives do. Then there is the stuff that even the best filters can't remove.

Well he might be kind of right. There is one machine I have ran synthetic in for it's entire life without changing....

MY LAWNMOWER

wsarver · 06-24-2014, 10:58 AM

I wouldn't even think of running synthetic in my mower lol. It's just a mower :-P

jwick · 06-24-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wsarver

I wouldn't even think of running synthetic in my mower lol. It's just a mower :-P

Yeah...I did it mainly as a joke. I had a spare bottle or RP on the shelf and figured it had to be better than the crap they included in the box. Sold that mower to my brother several years back. Still runs perfectly.

Fountainhead · 06-24-2014, 12:04 PM

Hey, besides, I like touching my car! Changing the oil every 3750, I know all about that, (it's not your grandpa's oil anymore) blah, blah, blah, but hey, if I wanted to be prudent and penny pinching I would have bought a CRZ hybrid thing and ran 0W-20 synth.

fairlady_z34 · 06-25-2014, 12:44 AM

so is it better to run mineral or synthetic? isnt it better just to follow the instructions of the owners manual?

exsanity · 06-25-2014, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fairlady_z34

so is it better to run mineral or synthetic? isnt it better just to follow the instructions of the owners manual?

From what I've read, and this is just my opinion, it seems like synthetic is the way to go, the only disadvantage is the cost increase.

mike444 · 06-25-2014, 12:52 AM

uhhh... guys lol?

fairlady_z34 · 06-25-2014, 01:01 AM

thank you very much exsanity... synthetic is what i use, just wanted you guys to clarify

06-24-2014, 12:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 15	Hey, besides, I like touching my car! Changing the oil every 3750, I know all about that, (it's not your grandpa's oil anymore) blah, blah, blah, but hey, if I wanted to be prudent and penny pinching I would have bought a CRZ hybrid thing and ran 0W-20 synth. FPenvy likes this.

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fairlady_z34 Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: socal Posts: 568 Drives: 09 370z touring Rep Power: 13	so is it better to run mineral or synthetic? isnt it better just to follow the instructions of the owners manual? Last edited by fairlady_z34; 06-25-2014 at 12:46 AM.

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exsanity Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 10,499 Drives: you mad.. Rep Power: 3700	To say that any kind of oil will last the life of the engine is a gross overstatement. As Presto mentioned, as the oil heats up it boils and/or breaks down. It will also collect deposits from the combustion.

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wsarver Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 115 Drives: 2015 Silverado Rep Power: 12	I wouldn't even think of running synthetic in my mower lol. It's just a mower :-P

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fairlady_z34 Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: socal Posts: 568 Drives: 09 370z touring Rep Power: 13	thank you very much exsanity... synthetic is what i use, just wanted you guys to clarify