Z does not accelerate

Kabestro · 03-19-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by russw007

i have a 2013 touring,sports package. F.I cat back and k&N air filters. it has 27k miles on it and twice last week when i put the gas to the floor it didn't do anything! it didn't hesitate or sputter in anyway. it was just like i wasn't giving it any gas at all. restarting the car fixes it for now but yesterday my service engine light came on.

For me, once I took the car out the dealership, it's never gone back. I had the same thing happen to me, and at around 30K I took apart the throttle bodies and cleaned them, no more problem so far. I also have Uprev cable and I'm able to see which codes it's throwing. If you feel comfortable taking it to the dealer take it

carlitos_370z · 03-20-2015, 09:28 AM

russw007 · 03-21-2015, 02:35 PM

So i took my car to the dealer yesterday and they said it might be getting to much air from the K&N air filters?! so they put the stock air filters back in to see if that fixes the problem. does that make any sense to anyone else? it has to be the throttle bodies. are they hard to take out and clean?

brancky3 · 03-21-2015, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by russw007

So i took my car to the dealer yesterday and they said it might be getting to much air from the K&N air filters?! so they put the stock air filters back in to see if that fixes the problem. does that make any sense to anyone else?

Lol no. Do you have an alternate dealer around?

RBfastback · 03-21-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by russw007

So i took my car to the dealer yesterday and they said it might be getting to much air from the K&N air filters?! so they put the stock air filters back in to see if that fixes the problem. does that make any sense to anyone else? it has to be the throttle bodies. are they hard to take out and clean?

put ur K&N's back in an go to another dealer...that's nonsense

carlitos_370z · 03-24-2015, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by russw007

So i took my car to the dealer yesterday and they said it might be getting to much air from the K&N air filters?! so they put the stock air filters back in to see if that fixes the problem. does that make any sense to anyone else? it has to be the throttle bodies. are they hard to take out and clean?

In my Z the dealer prove everything... In that moment i have K&N drop ins too... they changed for the OEM's one and the problem still, they also change the MAF sensors and the same problem again... they ending up cleaning the throttle bodies and then problem solved... Thanks to God no more issues again... soo I recommend you to tell that to the dealer to see if that can fix your problem.

BTW I dont know but I see that this problem are more common on the 2013 Z

russw007 · 03-24-2015, 12:25 PM

thanks for all your help guys. I'm going back to the dealer this weekend. i'll let you know how everything goes.

carlitos_370z · 03-24-2015, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by russw007

thanks for all your help guys. I'm going back to the dealer this weekend. i'll let you know how everything goes.

good luck my friend

P's_Z · 03-25-2015, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback

put ur K&N's back in an go to another dealer...that's nonsense

I have my K&N filters on and have had no issues for months after cleaning the throttle bodies. However, you have to be careful in how much you oil your filters, that will definitely mess with your maf readings if excess oil gets on them OP.

carlitos_370z · 03-26-2015, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by P's_Z

I have my K&N filters on and have had no issues for months after cleaning the throttle bodies. However, you have to be careful in how much you oil your filters, that will definitely mess with your maf readings if excess oil gets on them OP.

RBfastback · 04-22-2015, 07:05 PM

my car did it again the other day, I'd say it was a consistent percentage I was about to accelerate like roughly 20%. pulled over an shut the engine down then on start up it was back to normal.
talked to jack from HP logic and he said he can tune it out so it doesn't happen again.

Vicster · 04-23-2015, 08:42 AM

So, I figured I would update from my perspective now since it's be a little while...

As I said previously, the dealer was convinced that the K&Ns where over oiled which was causing issues with one or both of the MAFs. I noticed that cleaning the MAFs seemed to help for a few weeks but eventually it would go back to consistent losses in power or limp mode.

As of this last winter, things got really bad. My car started to regularly go into limp mode and threw codes far more frequently than before. Cleaning the MAFs had little to no effect on the situation and sometimes restarting after the oil temps raised the needle just off the floor seemed to help for a single trip (until the car was parked for the day for instance). Sometimes after this cycle, the CEL would come up and the same codes that were previously pre-failed would now be failed.

So I started to systematically replace parts that the dealer mentioned and get it to a state where either it would fix the situation or prove that the problem was not what the dealer was claiming it to be. I started by removing the K&Ns and making sure everything in the intake was fresh and clean, then replacing them with brand new stock air filters. Then I replace the driver's side MAF. The car ran good for a single trip then went to limp mode. I considered moving the MAF to the passenger's side and putting the other in but ended up saying screw it and just ordered another replacement MAF. (This way, both are replaced and the dealer has no leg to stand on anymore.) Again, after replacing the second MAF the performance was good. In fact, the performance was GREAT, way better than it had been in a while. Drove that way for a few trips then BAM, something started to feel off... Ran the codes and sure enough, pre-failed P0101 and P010B. No oiled air filters, two brand new MAFs; this problem is not due to fault sensors and/or caused by the air filters, I'm now convinced.

I have an extended warranty for my Z so I will be bringing it into the shop soon (probably when I go to get my winter's rotated off) and raising a small but rather steamy level of hell! I'm thinking about pointing them in the direction of the throttle bodies and telling them to clean and handle the relearn process.

I'll update again once this is done. Thanks for all of the information everyone has shared thus far, it is really helpful!

carlitos_370z · 04-23-2015, 08:58 AM

Hope you can resolve the problem soon bro! I paid that the problem are the throttle bodys... like happen to me P's_z...keep us updated my friend! Good Luck

Smashley · 04-23-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

So, I figured I would update from my perspective now since it's be a little while...

As I said previously, the dealer was convinced that the K&Ns where over oiled which was causing issues with one or both of the MAFs. I noticed that cleaning the MAFs seemed to help for a few weeks but eventually it would go back to consistent losses in power or limp mode.

As of this last winter, things got really bad. My car started to regularly go into limp mode and threw codes far more frequently than before. Cleaning the MAFs had little to no effect on the situation and sometimes restarting after the oil temps raised the needle just off the floor seemed to help for a single trip (until the car was parked for the day for instance). Sometimes after this cycle, the CEL would come up and the same codes that were previously pre-failed would now be failed.

So I started to systematically replace parts that the dealer mentioned and get it to a state where either it would fix the situation or prove that the problem was not what the dealer was claiming it to be. I started by removing the K&Ns and making sure everything in the intake was fresh and clean, then replacing them with brand new stock air filters. Then I replace the driver's side MAF. The car ran good for a single trip then went to limp mode. I considered moving the MAF to the passenger's side and putting the other in but ended up saying screw it and just ordered another replacement MAF. (This way, both are replaced and the dealer has no leg to stand on anymore.) Again, after replacing the second MAF the performance was good. In fact, the performance was GREAT, way better than it had been in a while. Drove that way for a few trips then BAM, something started to feel off... Ran the codes and sure enough, pre-failed P0101 and P010B. No oiled air filters, two brand new MAFs; this problem is not due to fault sensors and/or caused by the air filters, I'm now convinced.

I have an extended warranty for my Z so I will be bringing it into the shop soon (probably when I go to get my winter's rotated off) and raising a small but rather steamy level of hell! I'm thinking about pointing them in the direction of the throttle bodies and telling them to clean and handle the relearn process.

I'll update again once this is done. Thanks for all of the information everyone has shared thus far, it is really helpful!

I live near you, could you tell me which dealer you went to for this?

P's_Z · 04-23-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicster

I'm thinking about pointing them in the direction of the throttle bodies and telling them to clean and handle the relearn process.

Tell them that this has happened to people you know and cleaning the TBs has worked for them. Hell, even show them this thread as evidence. I dont know why not all nissan dealers are in the know of this. You are not the first person that this has happened to, i would have expected for word to have spread by now, and for the dealers to have sent this to the central offices and this issue-fix be informed to all.

03-24-2015, 12:25 PM	#97 (permalink)
russw007 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: nh Posts: 50 Drives: Black 2015 Nismo Rep Power: 11	thanks for all your help guys. I'm going back to the dealer this weekend. i'll let you know how everything goes. carlitos_370z likes this.

04-22-2015, 07:05 PM	#101 (permalink)
RBfastback Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: FM, Florida Posts: 311 Drives: 13 370z Nismo PW Rep Power: 11	my car did it again the other day, I'd say it was a consistent percentage I was about to accelerate like roughly 20%. pulled over an shut the engine down then on start up it was back to normal. talked to jack from HP logic and he said he can tune it out so it doesn't happen again. carlitos_370z likes this.

04-23-2015, 08:42 AM	#102 (permalink)
Vicster Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pflugerville, TX Posts: 425 Drives: 2013 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 13	So, I figured I would update from my perspective now since it's be a little while... As I said previously, the dealer was convinced that the K&Ns where over oiled which was causing issues with one or both of the MAFs. I noticed that cleaning the MAFs seemed to help for a few weeks but eventually it would go back to consistent losses in power or limp mode. As of this last winter, things got really bad. My car started to regularly go into limp mode and threw codes far more frequently than before. Cleaning the MAFs had little to no effect on the situation and sometimes restarting after the oil temps raised the needle just off the floor seemed to help for a single trip (until the car was parked for the day for instance). Sometimes after this cycle, the CEL would come up and the same codes that were previously pre-failed would now be failed. So I started to systematically replace parts that the dealer mentioned and get it to a state where either it would fix the situation or prove that the problem was not what the dealer was claiming it to be. I started by removing the K&Ns and making sure everything in the intake was fresh and clean, then replacing them with brand new stock air filters. Then I replace the driver's side MAF. The car ran good for a single trip then went to limp mode. I considered moving the MAF to the passenger's side and putting the other in but ended up saying screw it and just ordered another replacement MAF. (This way, both are replaced and the dealer has no leg to stand on anymore.) Again, after replacing the second MAF the performance was good. In fact, the performance was GREAT, way better than it had been in a while. Drove that way for a few trips then BAM, something started to feel off... Ran the codes and sure enough, pre-failed P0101 and P010B. No oiled air filters, two brand new MAFs; this problem is not due to fault sensors and/or caused by the air filters, I'm now convinced. I have an extended warranty for my Z so I will be bringing it into the shop soon (probably when I go to get my winter's rotated off) and raising a small but rather steamy level of hell! I'm thinking about pointing them in the direction of the throttle bodies and telling them to clean and handle the relearn process. I'll update again once this is done. Thanks for all of the information everyone has shared thus far, it is really helpful! P's_Z, carlitos_370z and Memphis370Z like this. __________________ -Chris '13 Z34 Touring Sport \| ARK GRiP CBE \| Stillen G3 CAI \| AAM HFC \| UpRev \| 20mm Z1 Spacers \| StopTech Drilled/Slotted Rotors \| StopTech SS Lines

04-23-2015, 08:58 AM	#103 (permalink)
carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7586	Hope you can resolve the problem soon bro! I paid that the problem are the throttle bodys... like happen to me P's_z...keep us updated my friend! Good Luck Vicster likes this.

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