Z does not accelerate

Datsun Z · 01-31-2017, 02:56 AM

Just out of curiosity, is this issue isolated to manual cars only? Becouse from the previous posts none of the cars list an automatic car under the type of cars they drive.

Just like P' Z, MikeUCFL, juld0zer, carlitos, kangstar, Digltonium, Kabestro, mike12002us. They all seem to have manual transmission cars.

Optimiser · 01-31-2017, 06:00 AM

I wouldn't have thought so.

Ghh0st · 10-27-2017, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business Kat

Lack of Power - Limp Mode - Shut Offs - SOLVED

Read through the whole thread for details but here's the gist of it.

Car: 2013 370z with stillen supercharger. Installed and tuned in CA. Moved to Texas. Problems started.

Problems: Car hesitated under 3k rpm and then would take off just fine. Random limp modes. Random codes involving throttle body, air flow, etc. Car would sputter at idle. Couldn't find correct idle at idle. Misfires. Stalls. You name it.

Solution: After taking it to a mechanic time and time again to fix whatever problems would happen we finally found the source. Throttle bodies if you catch it too late, otherwise it's the throttle position sensor. When you get Stillens kit they send you an extension cable. This cable is conveniently placed in an area exposed to heat. Here is said sensor:

In my case, so they told me, the sensor would over heat and cause all these problems. Sometimes it would totally shut the car down as a safety mechanism. Also, in my case, we had to replace the throttle body because the little thing the tps plugs into, that's attached to the throttle body, needed to be replaced as it was more or less fried. But they don't make that individual part so we had to replace the whole thing.

Here is the new insulated cable:

As you can see it's much heftier than than before.

Here is the little connector thingy that got fried. Or maybe they upsold me:

And here is another angle of where the cable plugs into the thingy on the throttle body:

And here is a shot of the whole thing because why not:

For my duration with this problem all problems were random and inconclusive. A restart fixed it half the time. One time I waited 2 days and it turn on. Finally had it towed to nissan where the car started right up perfectly fine. Someone with a non supercharged Z please post if this helps because I know you guys have the same problem too and If the remedy is the same then we've found the cure. All in all I'm glad it was solved and I can sell the car knowing the next guy won't have to deal with this nonsense.

Thank you all for your support through this and I hope all you guys with this problem out there get it solved as well.

What is the part number for the cable, and where can I find the insulated one? Thanks!!

juld0zer · 10-27-2017, 09:42 PM

I always thought it was throttle related because i had a bug in my throttle map that would only randomly cause the severe lag where the revs increase extremely slowly. My guess is that the TPS or the throttle body itself would age or gunk up slightly. ECU figures commanded vs actual position isnt right so it goes into limp. After all, these cars emerged around the time of the Toyota floor mat scandal.

The thing that puts me off your overheated TPS theory although you have proof that i don't question is that from factory the throttle bodies are connected to the engine's coolant circuit to warm and stabilise their temperature. Largely to prevent icing but perhaps also to keep them from overheating. In their default location they are subject to coolant temps around 90*c and above, and also convective heat from the headers/cats beneath.

The Stillen kit places the throttle bodies on the hot side of the intercooler. I cant remember if the coolant plumbing is retained? So maybe the coolant really is there to keep them cool?

Personally, i think yours might be an isolated case where something failed and melted the wiring.

It's easy to upgrade this cable - wrap it in exhaust wrap and then some foil tape on top. Alternatively you can buy heat insulation sleeves for ignition leads which will do the job too.

markesc · 11-16-2017, 05:59 PM

Just had something similar happen for the first time today:

2014 7AT 41k miles, FI exhaust + K&N drop ins. Cold start, everything seemed fine until about 5 minutes later the car would not go above 4k rpms. Basically no power, a PRIUS would be faster!!! No CEL either.

Now at home with a loaner awaiting the bad news...

So I gather they will try the following:

1) Blame the k/n filters, clean the MAF sensors, coin-toss if it goes away
2) Problem will return, then they will clean the throttle bodies and/or replace.

I have the extended gold warranty or whatever the hell it's called.

Never once had a single problem with the car up until today

P's_Z · 11-16-2017, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc

Just had something similar happen for the first time today:

2014 7AT 41k miles, FI exhaust + K&N drop ins. Cold start, everything seemed fine until about 5 minutes later the car would not go above 4k rpms. Basically no power, a PRIUS would be faster!!! No CEL either.

Now at home with a loaner awaiting the bad news...

So I gather they will try the following:

1) Blame the k/n filters, clean the MAF sensors, coin-toss if it goes away
2) Problem will return, then they will clean the throttle bodies and/or replace.

I have the extended gold warranty or whatever the hell it's called.

Never once had a single problem with the car up until today

Thats best case if the mechanics at the dealer know what theyre doing. Don't let them see your k&n's, that is if they dont blame it on the exhaust as one dealer said to me. They always find an excuse to not honor warranty.

markesc · 11-16-2017, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P's_Z

Thats best case if the mechanics at the dealer know what theyre doing. Don't let them see your k&n's, that is if they dont blame it on the exhaust as one dealer said to me. They always find an excuse to not honor warranty.

Well, coulda been much worse.

I'm out $100 for a MAF sensor cleaning and software update. It is what it is, funny the car seems to be much more responsive in the lower rpms. Wasn't going to sit there and argue with 'em, just happy to have it back, but I did let them know that there's multiple mile long threads online about the same issue.

Maybe Nissan has figured it out with this "update" or that was just BS and they just unhooked the neg battery terminal: "that'd be $100" like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUML0EZ1BQ

P's_Z · 11-18-2017, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc

Well, coulda been much worse.

I'm out $100 for a MAF sensor cleaning and software update. It is what it is, funny the car seems to be much more responsive in the lower rpms. Wasn't going to sit there and argue with 'em, just happy to have it back, but I did let them know that there's multiple mile long threads online about the same issue.

Maybe Nissan has figured it out with this "update" or that was just BS and they just unhooked the neg battery terminal: "that'd be $100" like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUML0EZ1BQ

Good to know you have the car back to normal now. FYI, cleaning the sensor is a breeze, youll have to do it every few miles. As for the TB, cleaning them should also be a maintenance item, every 10k miles for me. Theyre pretty easy to clean but you gotta be careful not to mess em up, as theyre really sensitive. For peace of mind, this is the only reason i take the Z to a dealer.

Good luck!

bcfromfl · 11-18-2017, 11:44 AM

Just guessing here...would catch cans keep the MAF sensors and TBs clean?

GuiLLoZ · 12-12-2017, 03:18 PM

Actually once a year every morning starts in limp mode thats when i know they are dirty, what i did cleaned the throttel bodys and done for another year.

JoshV562 · 02-14-2018, 09:01 PM

I just had this issue letting my car sit for a week. 2014 Base model Z, 6MT, Stillen CAI and oil cooler are my current set up. Problem happened twice where my Z would not accelerate when flooring the throttle. I cleaned my MAF sensors and changed from oiled filters to dry filters. Problem seemed to go away for now.
I am barely at 16K miles on my Z. I will clean the throttle bodies at 20K miles now that I have read this thread

P's_Z · 02-14-2018, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshV562

I just had this issue letting my car sit for a week. 2014 Base model Z, 6MT, Stillen CAI and oil cooler are my current set up. Problem happened twice where my Z would not accelerate when flooring the throttle. I cleaned my MAF sensors and changed from oiled filters to dry filters. Problem seemed to go away for now.
I am barely at 16K miles on my Z. I will clean the throttle bodies at 20K miles now that I have read this thread

Careful taking out the TBs and cleaning them, they are sensitive

MawtinZ34 · 07-17-2019, 10:46 AM

Hello I just want to share that my 370 was going through limp mode for about 6 months. How I dealt with it for so long? I was lazy and figured I just had to turn off the car and wait 10 seconds before turning it back on, to work properly again.

Finally after doing some research I cleaned my DIRTY TB and limp mode has been gone for 3 weeks now, along with the codes P010B & P102. Huge thanks for this forum that helped me, through you guys experiences solve my issues. I love my Z again thanks to you guys.

01-31-2017, 02:56 AM	#196 (permalink)
Datsun Z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 18 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 10	Just out of curiosity, is this issue isolated to manual cars only? Becouse from the previous posts none of the cars list an automatic car under the type of cars they drive. Just like P' Z, MikeUCFL, juld0zer, carlitos, kangstar, Digltonium, Kabestro, mike12002us. They all seem to have manual transmission cars. Last edited by Datsun Z; 02-11-2017 at 02:23 PM.

10-27-2017, 09:42 PM	#199 (permalink)
juld0zer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sydney Posts: 428 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 139	I always thought it was throttle related because i had a bug in my throttle map that would only randomly cause the severe lag where the revs increase extremely slowly. My guess is that the TPS or the throttle body itself would age or gunk up slightly. ECU figures commanded vs actual position isnt right so it goes into limp. After all, these cars emerged around the time of the Toyota floor mat scandal. The thing that puts me off your overheated TPS theory although you have proof that i don't question is that from factory the throttle bodies are connected to the engine's coolant circuit to warm and stabilise their temperature. Largely to prevent icing but perhaps also to keep them from overheating. In their default location they are subject to coolant temps around 90*c and above, and also convective heat from the headers/cats beneath. The Stillen kit places the throttle bodies on the hot side of the intercooler. I cant remember if the coolant plumbing is retained? So maybe the coolant really is there to keep them cool? Personally, i think yours might be an isolated case where something failed and melted the wiring. It's easy to upgrade this cable - wrap it in exhaust wrap and then some foil tape on top. Alternatively you can buy heat insulation sleeves for ignition leads which will do the job too. carlitos_370z likes this.

12-12-2017, 03:18 PM	#205 (permalink)
GuiLLoZ Base Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 81 Drives: 13 KaD M6 Rep Power: 11	Actually once a year every morning starts in limp mode thats when i know they are dirty, what i did cleaned the throttel bodys and done for another year. __________________ Stillen gen 3 CAI/koyorad oilcooler/custom full exhaust/ecutek/20mm spacers/megan springs

02-14-2018, 09:01 PM	#206 (permalink)
JoshV562 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 9 Drives: 14 Nissan 370Z GM M6 Rep Power: 11	Similar Issue I just had this issue letting my car sit for a week. 2014 Base model Z, 6MT, Stillen CAI and oil cooler are my current set up. Problem happened twice where my Z would not accelerate when flooring the throttle. I cleaned my MAF sensors and changed from oiled filters to dry filters. Problem seemed to go away for now. I am barely at 16K miles on my Z. I will clean the throttle bodies at 20K miles now that I have read this thread P's_Z likes this.

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