400 whp on N/A VQ possible?

Whjaxn17 · 10-30-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Soho did 391whp with a built motor.

*w/ a 92mm stroker crank in it.

austins z · 10-30-2019, 03:16 PM

Ahhh ok, yeah 391whp is awesome! I'd be super happy with those numbers, but I'm trying to get there without going with an aftermarket crank. Custom grind C2 cams (not the off the shelf ones), imsa spec 12.5:1 high compression pistons, vk56 valves, headers, intake porting, and e85 is the plans.

Rusty · 10-30-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by austins z

Ahhh ok, yeah 391whp is awesome! I'd be super happy with those numbers, but I'm trying to get there without going with an aftermarket crank. Custom grind C2 cams (not the off the shelf ones), imsa spec 12.5:1 high compression pistons, vk56 valves, headers, intake porting, and e85 is the plans.

In the Pirelli World Cup. Doren Racing had to change stock cranks after every race because of the crank cranking the nose in the oil pump area. The 2nd year. They was allowed to run billet cranks.

austins z · 10-30-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

In the Pirelli World Cup. Doren Racing had to change stock cranks after every race because of the crank cranking the nose in the oil pump area. The 2nd year. They was allowed to run billet cranks.

Correct. But this was due to them pushing there rpms over 8k. the harmonics and vibration of the crank around 8100 (quoted from JWT) is very stressful and causes fatigue and eventually cracks. When you have a Nissan backed budget supplying them with 10 billet cranks, who cares? I will get around this issue by staying under 8k and running a suckerpunch billet pump/gear set. Most VQ's will make peak hp under 8k anyways.

Side note: Doran is very close to me. Check out my profile image. It is one of there front bumpers straight off there Pirelli challenge car. Haha. I've got a lot of "intel" from the Doran guys on different things they experienced, parts used, and trials and tribulations to there builds.

Rusty · 10-30-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by austins z

Correct. But this was due to them pushing there rpms over 8k. the harmonics and vibration of the crank around 8100 (quoted from JWT) is very stressful and causes fatigue and eventually cracks. When you have a Nissan backed budget supplying them with 10 billet cranks, who cares? I will get around this issue by staying under 8k and running a suckerpunch billet pump/gear set. Most VQ's will make peak hp under 8k anyways.

Side note: Doran is very close to me. Check out my profile image. It is one of there front bumpers straight off there Pirelli challenge car. Haha. I've got a lot of "intel" from the Doran guys on different things they experienced, parts used, and trials and tribulations to there builds.

When a rotating mass (crank) goes up in rpms. It goes through what is call a critical stage at different rpm limits. Some worse then others. You never want to operate at one of these critical stages for any length of time. A critical stage is when a shaft starts to stress it's self. Basically going from a solid shaft to a flexible shaft. It bends and bows. The stock crank has one one these critical stages just above 8,000 rpms. Doren was operating at this rpm. This is also why you see problems with the oil pumps too that had been here.

Elmo370z · 10-30-2019, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by austins z

Ahhh ok, yeah 391whp is awesome! I'd be super happy with those numbers, but I'm trying to get there without going with an aftermarket crank. Custom grind C2 cams (not the off the shelf ones), imsa spec 12.5:1 high compression pistons, vk56 valves, headers, intake porting, and e85 is the plans.

You very well might be close to 400whp. 15+ motors seems to make tad bit more power then the previous generations. I remember hearing they did some improvements in the cylinder heads.

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austins z Base Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: indiana Posts: 76 Drives: @austinhertel on IG Rep Power: 74	Ahhh ok, yeah 391whp is awesome! I'd be super happy with those numbers, but I'm trying to get there without going with an aftermarket crank. Custom grind C2 cams (not the off the shelf ones), imsa spec 12.5:1 high compression pistons, vk56 valves, headers, intake porting, and e85 is the plans. Hotrodz, Elmo370z and ZontheRocks like this.