Right I know. I'm saying when you go back to do E please click the mouse and just print a SAE, takes 2 seconds. Since my next visit will be E also we can compare. I just wanna see on equal fields what a light flywheel and gears do.

What's the weight of yours?

Definitely. i'll let you know once I swap over to E. Maybe I should look into doing your ported lower mani and T.B.'s ;)

I've never weighed it, but stock nismo weight is 3,314lbs. With the headers, exhaust, seats and spare removal, I've pulled around 200lbs out of it. My guess would be that it weighs somewhere around 3,100lbs.

Maybe. Sub $1000 for 10hp I bet just like sub $1000 for 10hp for E85.

No weight of the flywheel. Trying to figure out what you gain from that as you have less drivetrain loss I'm sure.

My bad, the flywheel is the 14.5lb Southbend aluminum flywheel.

speaking of clutches and flywheels. Do either of you two fella have an upgraded master cylinder?

Nope

When I upgraded the clutch/flywheel, I also did the HD CSC from Zspeed...figured I may as well while the tranny was open.

Does anyone have any idea if any company is producing an intake manifold, besides modding the plastic manifold? Similar to 1slow370z manifold

No one is making one at the moment that I know of. Atleast no one has made any significant progress.

The one on 1slow370z's car was a prototype GTM unit that would have allowed for integrated ITBs

Mike

I am debating on producing a design I have been working on... Cost is the main issue! I would be looking to make it all out of Billet aluminum which can be cost prohibitive... but would allow me to produce it locally and something I could easily manage... Price would definitely be over $1k+ This is why most manufacturers cast their manifolds... Tooling cost is what is entry barrier for cast manifolds... You have to put out $15k+ just in tooling costs and have to make it back on your initial batches which drives up the price... expect something around the $1k-1.5k range for cast.

I gotcha. What about Cj motorsports? I was reading his thread. Seem very promising.

Don't you think you could make that money back no problem, If the gains in mid-range and top end were substantial . Hell i would let my car be tester, since it is basically 99% stock.

I would love too... However, I dont have $20k+ to throw at this and risk no one buying them or having to sell them below my costs to build... Its a business decision I am evaluating. The testing and R&D is already done... but would people really be willing to pay over $1k for an intake manifold??? I would have to sell atleast 20-30 units minimum to make my initial entry level costs back just from my initial costing of this en devour...

From how there thread was going it seems they are pretty far out from a production grade unit.

That's understandable

Then figure if option one did nothing you go back to the drawling board and make 2-3 more till you get it right. $15k times 2-3, ouch.

Exactly! Most people really don't understand the costs involved in developing products. It's not like body kits where you can get started and have a finished product for under $10k.

I understand, i just hope someone comes up with something badass.

IPP heads with a jun cam And ecu tek tune, with cj motor sports billet oil pump gears with 8k rpm redline. Think it would make more or come close to making than 1slow370z set up. Along with CJM manifold if it ever comes to life.

Little update on my quest for a 400whp NA z34. Just talked to John from bulletproof automotive about stage 2 jun cam. Also talked with someone from ati about the damper and that's suppose to be out very soon. I talked to kyle from IPP for set of stage 1 heads and they are installing the jun cams and port matching the heads to the cam. Just waiting on a manifold from CJM to come out so i can pull the trigger on the build. Now i just need ac wet sump solution to rev the motor little bit. 8300 would be my cap until i can build the bottom end

out of curiosity how much has or will this cost u ball park?

Little over 6k. That's not including the damper, manifold, or the oil pump gears and wxternal pump. To each is own i could buy a turbo for the amount of money I'm dumping into the car, but i love na motors

Build the bottom end first. Then worry about the top end. Why do some of the work twice. ;)

. Manifold will probably be a limited production or cheaper cost when it is first released. Plus the bottem end is pretty stout and can handle up 8500 rpm which about the limit the stock block can rev if i remember correctly.

These boosted cars pushing just south of 700whp on stock blocks, i think revving the motor 600 rpms isn't hurt the motor. If it blows ill just buy a new built block

Install isn't included

wow man that's intense

Yeah, gotta pay to play. I'm not rich by any means, I'm just good at saving and not into much besides fishing and having some drinks with good people. I just want a sick z34

That isn't even include installing prices.

i believe that's way off... if that's true then i'd only have 259whp with intakes, cbe, and tp's lol. maybe it will read 2-5% higher. 20-30% no way.

Different dynos read differently. Our cars don't lose close to a 100 hp from the transmission to the wheels. Stock non nismo makes around 280whp. With ecu tek new software and the proper mods 400whp doesn't seem so far fetched. Uprev is old news until they come out with new software. Plus putting your car on a,dyno doesn't mean crap it is a tool to properly tune your vehicle.

i referring to your comment where you said you heard Z1 dyno reads 20-30% higher. i was saying that wasn't possible. 2-5% is more feasible and i agree that the dyno is a tool to properly tune the car.

I gotcha, that just what i read at a point in time.

Anyone know of gtm's stage 2 valve train kit?

Does anyone know of any other company that makes valve train upgrades?

Just contacted ferrea for custom honeycomb valve springs

Hey Elmo,

A member had GTM stage 1 valvetrain and headwork along with JUN cams on his Z, plus other goodies. Here is his thread: http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...-na-build.html You may want to search his thread because it is 29 pages. The tune was on a dynapack with 7500 rpm redline, so it may be hard to compare with your dyno/tune. And if I recall correctly, he no longer has the car anymore. I hope this helps.

Probably been repeated in here already but 1slowZ has the NA record at like 380ish. It took a ton of one off mods to get there and he'd of spent much less adding FI and got another 150whp too.

And it never got tuned well enough to really show what the build could do. It's a moot point though, since you'll never get a single part from GTM.

This is the sad truth :( I remember Navyboy had some issues getting his GTM parts.