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Originally Posted by Elmo370z I don't think you need 15k to make 400 whp on a NA build. Now there isn't to much information out there about the JUN cams;
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Navyboy has the jun cams and built heads and is around the 315ish mark. They're not the magic bullet you think they are.
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Navyboy's lower than expected reading is probably because of the tune, not necessarily the cams themselves. I'd imagine the hardest thing about trying to get to 400 HP NA is the tuning.
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If the engine could maintain peak torque up to, say, 10K or 12K RPM, you might very well see 400 whp, with the right valvetrain, headers, etc etc.. I just threw out 15K off the top of my head, but higher powered F1 engines rev verrrrrry high to make that power. Of course, the oil pump on our motors seems to kerplode at a mere 8K RPM, so...
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You're right. You need twice that amount.
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With a 400 hp na build you will probably end up increasing the red line and end up increasing idling rpm which is not good for daily driving
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That's what I was afraid of hearing. the highest NA is like 340-350 on pump gas, I just believe that you can squeeze 50 more whp without sacrificing drivability. Wouldn't you agree?
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What are you basing the idea that there's another 50whp in there? If you go through shamus build, he'll be close to 400whp with a 4.0 on e85. Pm him and ask costs.
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LMAO, if you don't know the history on this build or the person that is responsible for it, you are sadly mistaken. If it gonna get done this build has a better chance than any so far.
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@ chuck someone in N.J. got 325 whp with and UpRev, exhaust , and intake. I have to agree with the statement made by Eclipz,. I'm may not be the smartest person about tuning cars, but I'm no dummy either and to back my additional 50whp somewhere in the motor, nobody has even tried without doing something crazy to the motor. I need to hit the lotto so I can test my hypothesis out.
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Back in the '60s, when fuel economy wasn't a big deal, car manufacturers were pretty sloppy and one could take a stock engine, slap a bigger carb and manifolds on it, maybe a hotter cam, and you could expect some pretty large gains. Add a basic balance/blue-print/port/polish job (not exactly a bolt-on but you don't have to buy a lot of expensive parts, either) and it was not unheard of to boost HP by 25% or more.
The days of getting big gains with bolt-ons and cheap mods are gone. The manufacturers have already picked the low-hanging fruit. ![]() As others have said: if you want big gains, expect to spend big money.
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