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Old 01-30-2015, 06:00 AM   #166 (permalink)
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speaking of clutches and flywheels. Do either of you two fella have an upgraded master cylinder?
When I upgraded the clutch/flywheel, I also did the HD CSC from Zspeed...figured I may as well while the tranny was open.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:28 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any idea if any company is producing an intake manifold, besides modding the plastic manifold? Similar to 1slow370z manifold
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:41 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any idea if any company is producing an intake manifold, besides modding the plastic manifold? Similar to 1slow370z manifold
No one is making one at the moment that I know of. Atleast no one has made any significant progress.

The one on 1slow370z's car was a prototype GTM unit that would have allowed for integrated ITBs

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I am debating on producing a design I have been working on... Cost is the main issue! I would be looking to make it all out of Billet aluminum which can be cost prohibitive... but would allow me to produce it locally and something I could easily manage... Price would definitely be over $1k+ This is why most manufacturers cast their manifolds... Tooling cost is what is entry barrier for cast manifolds... You have to put out $15k+ just in tooling costs and have to make it back on your initial batches which drives up the price... expect something around the $1k-1.5k range for cast.
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I gotcha. What about Cj motorsports? I was reading his thread. Seem very promising.
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I am debating on producing a design I have been working on... Cost is the main issue! I would be looking to make it all out of Billet aluminum which can be cost prohibitive... but would allow me to produce it locally and something I could easily manage... Price would definitely be over $1k+ This is why most manufacturers cast their manifolds... Tooling cost is what is entry barrier for cast manifolds... You have to put out $15k+ just in tooling costs and have to make it back on your initial batches which drives up the price... expect something around the $1k-1.5k range for cast.
Don't you think you could make that money back no problem, If the gains in mid-range and top end were substantial . Hell i would let my car be tester, since it is basically 99% stock.
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Don't you think you could make that money back no problem, If the gains in mid-range and top end were substantial . Hell i would let my car be tester, since it is basically 99% stock.
I would love too... However, I dont have $20k+ to throw at this and risk no one buying them or having to sell them below my costs to build... Its a business decision I am evaluating. The testing and R&D is already done... but would people really be willing to pay over $1k for an intake manifold??? I would have to sell atleast 20-30 units minimum to make my initial entry level costs back just from my initial costing of this en devour...
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I gotcha. What about Cj motorsports? I was reading his thread. Seem very promising.
From how there thread was going it seems they are pretty far out from a production grade unit.
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I would love too... However, I dont have $20k+ to throw at this and risk no one buying them or having to sell them below my costs to build... Its a business decision I am evaluating. The testing and R&D is already done... but would people really be willing to pay over $1k for an intake manifold??? I would have to sell atleast 20-30 units minimum to make my initial entry level costs back just from my initial costing of this en devour...
That's understandable
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I would love too... However, I dont have $20k+ to throw at this and risk no one buying them or having to sell them below my costs to build... Its a business decision I am evaluating. The testing and R&D is already done... but would people really be willing to pay over $1k for an intake manifold??? I would have to sell atleast 20-30 units minimum to make my initial entry level costs back just from my initial costing of this en devour...
Then figure if option one did nothing you go back to the drawling board and make 2-3 more till you get it right. $15k times 2-3, ouch.
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Exactly! Most people really don't understand the costs involved in developing products. It's not like body kits where you can get started and have a finished product for under $10k.
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I understand, i just hope someone comes up with something badass.
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IPP heads with a jun cam And ecu tek tune, with cj motor sports billet oil pump gears with 8k rpm redline. Think it would make more or come close to making than 1slow370z set up. Along with CJM manifold if it ever comes to life.
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Little update on my quest for a 400whp NA z34. Just talked to John from bulletproof automotive about stage 2 jun cam. Also talked with someone from ati about the damper and that's suppose to be out very soon. I talked to kyle from IPP for set of stage 1 heads and they are installing the jun cams and port matching the heads to the cam. Just waiting on a manifold from CJM to come out so i can pull the trigger on the build. Now i just need ac wet sump solution to rev the motor little bit. 8300 would be my cap until i can build the bottom end
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