Here we go again...

RonRizz · 04-28-2014, 04:47 PM

Had short block replaced at 12k, Oil consumption was main cause, And issues with timing chain..... Now at 25k, less than 3k since my previous oil change (all handled by dealer), I check oil while cleaning under the hood, yup, you guessed it, 3 quarts low. I should have known better, and been checking, but I wasn't. I figgered its the dealers problem to handle... When does the oil light come on in this car, when you're down to a teaspoon?
Going in in 2 weeks for Oil change and "consumption monitoring".

7speed · 04-28-2014, 04:51 PM

Damn sorry to hear. I had my short block replaced at 37,xxx. And I'm trying to get them replace again because I've had issues with oil leaks on various parts related to short block and their workmanship since then.

Yeah the oil light is a joke, dipstick was bone dry and no alert. Only warning was SES light flash once got to high on rpm.

2011 Nismo#91 · 04-28-2014, 09:19 PM

The oil light in this car comes on to let you know the engine is destroyed and needs to be replaced.

phunk · 04-28-2014, 09:34 PM

It is an oil pressure light, not an oil level light. It will only come on when there is no oil pressure.

Oil pressure lights are red. Oil level lights are yellow. Most cars do not have oil level lights.

BTW sorry to hear about your engine.

RonRizz · 05-18-2014, 07:40 PM

well Saturday she went in for her Oil change and start the consumption monitoring.. I hope this turns out well, I have a cabin rented near the Dragon in August, I don't want to have the Z in getting ANOTHER short block while I zoom around Tennessee in my loaner Nissan Leaf....lol At least I wouldn't have to worry about speeding tickets.

RonRizz · 06-21-2014, 06:19 PM

UPDATE

Put on 1059 miles since oil change. Back to dealer today for check........they wouldn' give me an exact amount, but told me it was around a quart low. They have to contact Nissan on Monday to see what is considered "acceptable" or in spec. Doesn't sound like good news. I figger if she needs another short block, they cant have her until after my Dragon trip in August....... Put 'dem miles on the old one!!
Not happy.

thompsontechs · 06-21-2014, 07:03 PM

Can't understand why these cars don't have an OP gauge. You would see something there as it got lower. I had mine less than a month when I ordered and installed a gauge. Granted I did it for the oil cooler too, but I won't own a car without an OPG. No smart comments about electric.

Sorry for the OP, get a gauge installed buddy. It won't tell you about level, but when you get a feel for it it will tell you something isn't right. I had an old Celica that would drop a bit when down a quart and I knew it was time to drop one in.

GL

mikey1600 · 06-22-2014, 03:01 AM

sorry to hear, definitely start checking more often as you said.

sounds weird, do you park in the same place all the time? have you checked to make sure no oil on ground under your car?

I've had mine for almost 3 years/50,000 k's (about 31-32,000 miles) and never had any problems with oil levels dropping

RonRizz · 06-22-2014, 11:23 AM

Its garaged, and not a drop under car...It's definitely drinking it. I'm alright with checking the oil every 1,000 or so, and topping off, that's not my concern. My concern is this (understand that I am no mechanic) If the engine is using enough oil to be considered "out of spec" to Nissan, and I keep it in the car, what are the long term issues, if any, that I may encounter. I mean there is a reason that its considered an "unacceptable" amount of use..

RonRizz · 06-23-2014, 12:44 PM

Just got word from Nissan....Another short block coming my way.

wsarver · 06-23-2014, 01:31 PM

Makes me nervous. I've been meaning to check my oil last few gas tankfulls. Thanks for the reminder and glad Nissan is taking care of the issue. Good luck!

Akurei · 06-23-2014, 01:33 PM

Not too experienced with new cars, or newer/unused engines in general. My guess is the engineering of the engine. Whether it's piston rings or valve seals or something. Somethigns not right when the engine is cold or when the engine is at operating tempature as the engines metal expands. I understand I was breaking in my engine in the beginning but wondering if it is gonna be a continuos issue. I only had 1 quart missing at 3,000 miles. As far as I know the engines are already broken in before the car reaches a dealership according to my local dealership. So it's a preference these days to follow a break in procedure. I followed it anyhow.

I never had this issue at all, with a chevy, honda or dodge. However I never had them brand new

1slow370 · 06-23-2014, 01:59 PM

yeah the oil pressure light will come on 5 minutes after you are completely out of oil.

I'm not joking here either when my oil cooler failed the light didn't come on until i had gotten it pulled over after seeing a large cloud of smoke pouring out the back of my car.

Fountainhead · 06-23-2014, 02:17 PM

I think I've read all the posts here about oil usage/replace/rebuild by Nissan, but has anyone identified the reason for oil loss? Is it bad oil rings, leaks on valve seals, main seals going, etc?

RonRizz · 06-23-2014, 06:21 PM

They want me to bring t back in to check valve timing, and a few other things.. Well, I know its a load of BS, but the Dealership said Nissan techs stressed the importance of following the guidelines for break-in "strictly".. I assured them that after the first swap, I was sure to follow PAST the recommended timeframe to be sure this would not happen to me again, and here I am.
They didn't come right out and say it was MY fault, but they imply that its you and not the product.
I wonder if Nissan would do anything for me for my troubles!!!

Factory installed exhaust upgrade would be aaaiigghht......

04-28-2014, 04:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	Here we go again... Had short block replaced at 12k, Oil consumption was main cause, And issues with timing chain..... Now at 25k, less than 3k since my previous oil change (all handled by dealer), I check oil while cleaning under the hood, yup, you guessed it, 3 quarts low. I should have known better, and been checking, but I wasn't. I figgered its the dealers problem to handle... When does the oil light come on in this car, when you're down to a teaspoon? Going in in 2 weeks for Oil change and "consumption monitoring". __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

04-28-2014, 04:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
7speed Track Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 697 Drives: 09 370 sports clone Rep Power: 13	Damn sorry to hear. I had my short block replaced at 37,xxx. And I'm trying to get them replace again because I've had issues with oil leaks on various parts related to short block and their workmanship since then. Yeah the oil light is a joke, dipstick was bone dry and no alert. Only warning was SES light flash once got to high on rpm. __________________ 09 370z 6spd traded 1/12/15 for 15 Challenger RT 6spd

04-28-2014, 09:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,402 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	The oil light in this car comes on to let you know the engine is destroyed and needs to be replaced. fuct, Trips, mikey1600 and 5 others like this.

04-28-2014, 09:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	It is an oil pressure light, not an oil level light. It will only come on when there is no oil pressure. Oil pressure lights are red. Oil level lights are yellow. Most cars do not have oil level lights. BTW sorry to hear about your engine. Trips, Davey and binary0x01 like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

05-18-2014, 07:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	well Saturday she went in for her Oil change and start the consumption monitoring.. I hope this turns out well, I have a cabin rented near the Dragon in August, I don't want to have the Z in getting ANOTHER short block while I zoom around Tennessee in my loaner Nissan Leaf....lol At least I wouldn't have to worry about speeding tickets. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-21-2014, 06:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	UPDATE Put on 1059 miles since oil change. Back to dealer today for check........they wouldn' give me an exact amount, but told me it was around a quart low. They have to contact Nissan on Monday to see what is considered "acceptable" or in spec. Doesn't sound like good news. I figger if she needs another short block, they cant have her until after my Dragon trip in August....... Put 'dem miles on the old one!! Not happy. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-21-2014, 07:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
thompsontechs Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rockford Posts: 129 Drives: 370 Sport Rep Power: 11	Can't understand why these cars don't have an OP gauge. You would see something there as it got lower. I had mine less than a month when I ordered and installed a gauge. Granted I did it for the oil cooler too, but I won't own a car without an OPG. No smart comments about electric. Sorry for the OP, get a gauge installed buddy. It won't tell you about level, but when you get a feel for it it will tell you something isn't right. I had an old Celica that would drop a bit when down a quart and I knew it was time to drop one in. GL

06-22-2014, 03:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 16	sorry to hear, definitely start checking more often as you said. sounds weird, do you park in the same place all the time? have you checked to make sure no oil on ground under your car? I've had mine for almost 3 years/50,000 k's (about 31-32,000 miles) and never had any problems with oil levels dropping

06-22-2014, 11:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	Its garaged, and not a drop under car...It's definitely drinking it. I'm alright with checking the oil every 1,000 or so, and topping off, that's not my concern. My concern is this (understand that I am no mechanic) If the engine is using enough oil to be considered "out of spec" to Nissan, and I keep it in the car, what are the long term issues, if any, that I may encounter. I mean there is a reason that its considered an "unacceptable" amount of use.. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-23-2014, 12:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	Just got word from Nissan....Another short block coming my way. Shadezz likes this. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-23-2014, 01:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
wsarver Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 115 Drives: 2015 Silverado Rep Power: 12	Makes me nervous. I've been meaning to check my oil last few gas tankfulls. Thanks for the reminder and glad Nissan is taking care of the issue. Good luck!

06-23-2014, 01:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Akurei Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 319 Drives: 14 370z Rep Power: 11	Not too experienced with new cars, or newer/unused engines in general. My guess is the engineering of the engine. Whether it's piston rings or valve seals or something. Somethigns not right when the engine is cold or when the engine is at operating tempature as the engines metal expands. I understand I was breaking in my engine in the beginning but wondering if it is gonna be a continuos issue. I only had 1 quart missing at 3,000 miles. As far as I know the engines are already broken in before the car reaches a dealership according to my local dealership. So it's a preference these days to follow a break in procedure. I followed it anyhow. I never had this issue at all, with a chevy, honda or dodge. However I never had them brand new Last edited by Akurei; 06-23-2014 at 01:36 PM.

06-23-2014, 01:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	yeah the oil pressure light will come on 5 minutes after you are completely out of oil. I'm not joking here either when my oil cooler failed the light didn't come on until i had gotten it pulled over after seeing a large cloud of smoke pouring out the back of my car. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

06-23-2014, 02:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	I think I've read all the posts here about oil usage/replace/rebuild by Nissan, but has anyone identified the reason for oil loss? Is it bad oil rings, leaks on valve seals, main seals going, etc?

06-23-2014, 06:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	They want me to bring t back in to check valve timing, and a few other things.. Well, I know its a load of BS, but the Dealership said Nissan techs stressed the importance of following the guidelines for break-in "strictly".. I assured them that after the first swap, I was sure to follow PAST the recommended timeframe to be sure this would not happen to me again, and here I am. They didn't come right out and say it was MY fault, but they imply that its you and not the product. I wonder if Nissan would do anything for me for my troubles!!! Factory installed exhaust upgrade would be aaaiigghht...... __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals