The Definitive Differential Thread

BlackZeda · 07-06-2016, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110

You'll want to replace the bearings and seals at the same time.

Ah, so the parts list mentioned first on the first post of this thread?

2x - 1L Diff Oil - (Motul 75/90)
2x - 38440-0C000 - Differential Side Bearing
2x - 38342-P9010 - Differential Side Oil Seal
2x - 11026-4N200 - Differential Drain Plug Crush Washer
1x - 38120-0C000 - Carrier Bearing Assembly
1x - 38140-0C00A - Pinion Bearing
1x - 38189-P0117 - Drive Oil Seal

B&W_Evader · 07-06-2016, 09:37 AM

Differential bushing too while you're in there. It's just a matter of time. Buy the tool for the rear mount and let us all know how well it works.
You shouldn't need to mess with the pinion unless you're doing gears too. Better not to touch it if you don't have to.
Check out my install: DIY - Limited Slip Differential Install

BlackZeda · 07-06-2016, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Differential bushing too while you're in there. It's just a matter of time. Buy the tool for the rear mount and let us all know how well it works.
You shouldn't need to mess with the pinion unless you're doing gears too. Better not to touch it if you don't have to.
Check out my install: DIY - Limited Slip Differential Install

Are you referring to this tool: https://www.z1motorsports.com/transm...ol-p-9225.html

Great write-up on the install BTW...thanks! I will be doing this (actually helping a true mechanic) weekend after next and I will let you know how it went.

B&W_Evader · 07-08-2016, 06:08 PM

Yep that's the one. I would of bought it if I had confidence it worked. Saw somewhere that you need to replace the threaded rod after each use because of the force required to remove the bushing. I would be worth it if it works

BlackZeda · 07-11-2016, 08:48 AM

So I guess I should have thought and asked about this before I ordered the Wavetrac LSD (BTW, I ordered the Wavetrac LSD); has anyone with this unit driven their Z in the rain or snow? I am guessing it would only improve traction and possibly settle down the traction control. Hopefully it doesn't confuse it.

Hotrodz · 07-11-2016, 10:09 AM

Lol, you are going to love the Wavetrac, come on now it the LDS Nissan uses in their 370z race cars. Also, I can tell you if have tires that are good in the wet you will be just fine. I done over 100 in the wet with no problems!

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Ninja Edit: The most fun I had was driving in the wet at on the Dragon at ZDayZ. What's great about a LSD that it locks and is predictable, that is when you lose traction in the rear it's easier to react to what is going on.

hjo1078 · 07-11-2016, 10:32 AM

It performed beautifully on the dragon in the rain. I think i was going just as fast in the rain as when it was dry.

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BlackZeda · 07-12-2016, 09:48 AM

Guess what showed up yesterday!

Now if I can ever get the axle flange I will be in business! Thanks for all the information and help fellas!

BlackZeda · 07-25-2016, 11:32 AM

So the Wavetrac LSD has been installed and I can't say enough about or quantify the improvement in traction and overall impact in performance. I rarely turn off traction control (I used it to learn to be smooth and shift weight better in some known tricky spots along my routes), so where I know it will become active and disturb the power transmission, the LSD has pretty much eliminated these instance in 8 out of 10 times. The severity of the effect of traction control has been greatly reduced and recovers much more quickly the other 20% of the time. Someday I will be a man and turn it off altogether!

Thanks for the information and suggestions fellas...I am very pleased by the results so far!

V1H · 07-25-2016, 12:03 PM

What was the total costs for this mod?

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BlackZeda · 07-25-2016, 12:42 PM

For me, since this is my DD and I also had the clutch master cylinder and CSC elimination kit installed it was astronomical! But without all that...

Here is the breakdown:

Wavetrac LSD $1,159.00 w/s&h and tax
Axle Flange (1 needed for NISMO/VSLD) $194.61 w/s&h and tax
Z1 Bearing and Seal kit $279.00
Motul Diff Fluid $41.90
Labor ~$300

Total: ~$2000.00

Extras:
NISMO Diff Cover $148.00
Whiteline Diff Bushings $98.00

Was it worth it? I love my Z and I drive it in the winter, so YES!

V1H · 07-26-2016, 01:51 AM

Thanks alot. Very insightful infos!

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DarkJak · 08-30-2016, 03:00 PM

What's the consensus on install of a Wavetrac for a 7AT with the OEM VLSD?

Presto · 08-30-2016, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

For me, since this is my DD and I also had the clutch master cylinder and CSC elimination kit installed it was astronomical! But without all that...

Here is the breakdown:

Wavetrac LSD $1,159.00 w/s&h and tax
Axle Flange (1 needed for NISMO/VSLD) $194.61 w/s&h and tax
Z1 Bearing and Seal kit $279.00
Motul Diff Fluid $41.90
Labor ~$300

Total: ~$2000.00

Extras:
NISMO Diff Cover $148.00
Whiteline Diff Bushings $98.00

Was it worth it? I love my Z and I drive it in the winter, so YES!

Can you share from which vendor you purchased the lsd? Also
Did a shop do the lsd install? Did they measure the backlash and buy and install new shims?
Does your cruise control still work?

BlackZeda · 08-31-2016, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Presto

Can you share from which vendor you purchased the lsd? Also
Did a shop do the lsd install? Did they measure the backlash and buy and install new shims?
Does your cruise control still work?

I bought the LSD from Vivid Racing (Todd to be exact) which I would recommend since they were so helpful.

An individual that happens to be a mechanic performed the install, and yes, he did a lot of work with the shims which were new.

If I think about it I will try my cruise control and let you know if it still works.

07-06-2016, 09:37 AM	#62 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	Differential bushing too while you're in there. It's just a matter of time. Buy the tool for the rear mount and let us all know how well it works. You shouldn't need to mess with the pinion unless you're doing gears too. Better not to touch it if you don't have to. Check out my install: DIY - Limited Slip Differential Install __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\| Last edited by B&W_Evader; 07-06-2016 at 09:44 AM.

07-08-2016, 06:08 PM	#64 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	Yep that's the one. I would of bought it if I had confidence it worked. Saw somewhere that you need to replace the threaded rod after each use because of the force required to remove the bushing. I would be worth it if it works BlackZeda likes this. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\| Last edited by B&W_Evader; 07-08-2016 at 06:10 PM.

07-11-2016, 08:48 AM	#65 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	So I guess I should have thought and asked about this before I ordered the Wavetrac LSD (BTW, I ordered the Wavetrac LSD); has anyone with this unit driven their Z in the rain or snow? I am guessing it would only improve traction and possibly settle down the traction control. Hopefully it doesn't confuse it. hjo1078 likes this.

07-11-2016, 10:09 AM	#66 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Lol, you are going to love the Wavetrac, come on now it the LDS Nissan uses in their 370z race cars. Also, I can tell you if have tires that are good in the wet you will be just fine. I done over 100 in the wet with no problems! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Ninja Edit: The most fun I had was driving in the wet at on the Dragon at ZDayZ. What's great about a LSD that it locks and is predictable, that is when you lose traction in the rear it's easier to react to what is going on. BlackZeda likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\| Last edited by Hotrodz; 07-11-2016 at 10:35 AM.*

07-11-2016, 10:32 AM	#67 (permalink)
hjo1078 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: virginia Age: 46 Posts: 572 Drives: twin turbo 370z Rep Power: 5395	It performed beautifully on the dragon in the rain. I think i was going just as fast in the rain as when it was dry. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk BlackZeda and Hotrodz like this.

07-12-2016, 09:48 AM	#68 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Guess what showed up yesterday! Now if I can ever get the axle flange I will be in business! Thanks for all the information and help fellas! Presto, hjo1078 and Hotrodz like this.

07-25-2016, 11:32 AM	#69 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	So the Wavetrac LSD has been installed and I can't say enough about or quantify the improvement in traction and overall impact in performance. I rarely turn off traction control (I used it to learn to be smooth and shift weight better in some known tricky spots along my routes), so where I know it will become active and disturb the power transmission, the LSD has pretty much eliminated these instance in 8 out of 10 times. The severity of the effect of traction control has been greatly reduced and recovers much more quickly the other 20% of the time. Someday I will be a man and turn it off altogether! Thanks for the information and suggestions fellas...I am very pleased by the results so far! Presto and V1H like this.

07-25-2016, 12:03 PM	#70 (permalink)
V1H Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 244 Drives: 2013 370Z-TT GT Edt Rep Power: 3366	What was the total costs for this mod? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 501 BHP, 590 Nm (422 rwhp) *AAM* TT+I/Plenum\|*CJM* S1 FRS\|*C/Clutch* Stage 2\|*RJM* CMC\|*ZSpeed* CSC\|Z1 Oil cooler\|*Motordyne* Turbo ShockWave)))\|*Torqen* Coilovers\|*Stanceparts* AirCups\|*Amuse* bodykit\|*GReddy\|AEM\|ONEighty\|Mishimoto\|STILLEN\|Eibach\|SPL\|B&M\|Radium\|EcuTek\|BC Forged* RS45

07-25-2016, 12:42 PM	#71 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	For me, since this is my DD and I also had the clutch master cylinder and CSC elimination kit installed it was astronomical! But without all that... Here is the breakdown: Wavetrac LSD $1,159.00 w/s&h and tax Axle Flange (1 needed for NISMO/VSLD) $194.61 w/s&h and tax Z1 Bearing and Seal kit $279.00 Motul Diff Fluid $41.90 Labor ~$300 Total: ~$2000.00 Extras: NISMO Diff Cover $148.00 Whiteline Diff Bushings $98.00 Was it worth it? I love my Z and I drive it in the winter, so YES! Presto and xxAGAVExx like this.

07-26-2016, 01:51 AM	#72 (permalink)
V1H Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 244 Drives: 2013 370Z-TT GT Edt Rep Power: 3366	Thanks alot. Very insightful infos! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk BlackZeda likes this. __________________ 501 BHP, 590 Nm (422 rwhp) *AAM* TT+I/Plenum\|*CJM* S1 FRS\|*C/Clutch* Stage 2\|*RJM* CMC\|*ZSpeed* CSC\|Z1 Oil cooler\|*Motordyne* Turbo ShockWave)))\|*Torqen* Coilovers\|*Stanceparts* AirCups\|*Amuse* bodykit\|*GReddy\|AEM\|ONEighty\|Mishimoto\|STILLEN\|Eibach\|SPL\|B&M\|Radium\|EcuTek\|BC Forged* RS45

08-30-2016, 03:00 PM	#73 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	What's the consensus on install of a Wavetrac for a 7AT with the OEM VLSD? __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

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