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Jimbo370 02-19-2014 03:15 PM

changing fluids
 
I have 56k miles on a used 2009. the clutch fluid is on the Min line.

1. What goes in Dot3 or good time to change all fluids-brakes,power steering,oil and something else.
2. The radiator fluid is the blue stuff(100k) but manual says change it out about 70k? or does it go by years?
please help with the confusion..THANKS

Chuck33079 02-19-2014 03:25 PM

If I just bought a used sports car, I'd swap all of the belts, rad hoses and fluids out regardless of what the previous owner had or hadn't done. Maybe plugs too. Definitely an oil analysis.

L33T Z34 02-19-2014 08:31 PM

56k on an '09.

Let's see, well I'd change engine oil, tranny lube and rear diff lube to synthetic.

N-spect serpentine belt, if u see crax, then change it...

Plugs, change if u'r really paranoid...NeeSan says the iridiums can go 105k? LOL!
I changed my plugs @ 5k miles w/coppers...NGK, fawk that Denso shi+!

DOT 4 for the clutch, no questions...

Anti-Freeze, the Wal*MarX shi+ is fine, but if dumping that, then may as well change out thermostat...upper/lower hoses should be inspected, if no crax, don't worry 'till over 120k, but of course this varies w/location/environment...

oil analysis, eh? just gonna tell u what the previous owner did/didn't do...to late now...u own it! Maybe it will tell u to get rid of it soonest! :icon14:

Jimbo370 02-20-2014 09:57 AM

change fluids
 
1. Change the tranny fluid and rear diff with what brand and wt. more specific.. It is manmade so it is all synthetic?
2. What is wrong with iridiums and did you see a difference with copper NGK. On my 300zx They had to be nissan brand or they were not long enough making a poor idle.
3. The antifreeze is some blue Nissan stuff. Does the silicone hoses for radiator worth the extra money.
It will be my daily driver for about 5 yrs. my last car I kept for 14 yrs
THANKS

jwick 02-20-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo370 (Post 2700641)
1. Change the tranny fluid and rear diff with what brand and wt. more specific.. It is manmade so it is all synthetic?
2. What is wrong with iridiums and did you see a difference with copper NGK. On my 300zx They had to be nissan brand or they were not long enough making a poor idle.
3. The antifreeze is some blue Nissan stuff. Does the silicone hoses for radiator worth the extra money.
It will be my daily driver for about 5 yrs. my last car I kept for 14 yrs
THANKS

1. I go with Red Line Syn. Can't remember the weight off hand but Z1 lists it as Tranny and Diff fluid (they are different).
3. Depends on the state of your current hoses. The silicone one's will never degrade. Just remember you need t-bolt clamps, not worm drive.

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:22 AM

I just received my transmission and differential fluids in the mail and will be changing them tonight. The transmission uses 6 US pints (3 quarts) and Redline MT-85. The differential uses 3 US pints (1.5 quarts) and Redline 75W90.

FWIW, some people order an extra quart of the transmission fluid just to make sure they can get some overflow when they fill it.

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo370 (Post 2700641)
1. Change the tranny fluid and rear diff with what brand and wt. more specific.. It is manmade so it is all synthetic?
2. What is wrong with iridiums and did you see a difference with copper NGK. On my 300zx They had to be nissan brand or they were not long enough making a poor idle.
3. The antifreeze is some blue Nissan stuff. Does the silicone hoses for radiator worth the extra money.
It will be my daily driver for about 5 yrs. my last car I kept for 14 yrs
THANKS

For my tranny, it's Redline MT-85. Redline 75w90 for the diff.

Copper plugs don't last nearly as long as other plugs. I'd just put in another set of OE plugs and be done with it.

I'd replace the coolant with the same stuff, but I'd change it out a hell of a lot more often than the manual states. The hoses are a good deal considering silicone will last far longer than rubber. A busted radiator hose will leave you stranded on the side of the road.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2700690)
FWIW, some people order an extra quart of the transmission fluid just to make sure they can get some overflow when they fill it.

Do that.

fuct 02-20-2014 10:36 AM

i might be persuaded to move to redline tranny and dif fluid now that im outa warranty. either way i dont think you can go wrong with the nissan brand fluid for both.

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 10:38 AM

Why would there be any warranty concerns with a different fluid than OEM assuming they have the same specs?

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:41 AM

There shouldn't be. Some people just like to stick with OEM everything. To each their own :tiphat:

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 10:43 AM

There really can't be unless they supply you with no-cost OEM stuff, right? That's my understanding of the Magnussen-Moss Act.

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:48 AM

Yes. It is not legal for the dealer to deny warranty coverage for using OEM equivalent fluids.

Jimbo370 02-20-2014 10:51 AM

power steering.
 
no thoughts on this fluid or brake

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 10:52 AM

That's not one to overthink. Look at the spec in the manual, buy something that's not the auto parts store's house brand.

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:55 AM

I have some of the Redline fluid for our power steering system at home. I believe it is the D4 ATF fluid (it's automatic transmission fluid). I did not use their Power Steering Fluid.

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2700760)
That's not one to overthink. Look at the spec in the manual, buy something that's not the auto parts store's house brand.

The FSM isn't much help here. It just says "Genuine NISSAN PSF or equivalent" :ugh2:

A full flush is 1-1/8 quart btw.

theDreamer 02-20-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2700773)
I have some of the Redline fluid for our power steering system at home. I believe it is the D4 ATF fluid (it's automatic transmission fluid). I did not use their Power Steering Fluid.

That does work for the PS, I used it for awhile until I blew a PS line and just add the shop use the OEM Nissan stuff because they gave it to me for free.

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2700776)
The FSM isn't much help here. It just says "Genuine NISSAN PSF or equivalent" :ugh2:

It doesn't give a spec for the ATF to use?

JARblue 02-20-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2700781)
It doesn't give a spec for the ATF to use?

I was speaking to the power steering fluid - I use the Red Line D4 ATF.

For the automatic transmission, it just says "Genuine NISSAN Matic S ATF"

JARblue 02-20-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2700778)
That does work for the PS, I used it for awhile until I blew a PS line and just add the shop use the OEM Nissan stuff because they gave it to me for free.

I bought some in anticipation of installing a $hittymoto power steering reservoir nearly two years ago. I never installed the PS reservoir but I did do the PS flush. I've been running it for about 20K miles now.

Chuck33079 02-20-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2700787)
I was speaking to the power steering fluid - I use the Red Line D4 ATF.

For the automatic transmission, it just says "Genuine NISSAN Matic S ATF"

I was also referring to the power steering fluid. Nissan requires ATF for that, not PS fluid, correct?

JARblue 02-20-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2700792)
I was also referring to the power steering fluid. Nissan requires ATF for that, not PS fluid, correct?

They have a specific Nissan branded power steering fluid.
( Click to show/hide )

Like I said, the FSM says "Genuine NISSAN PSF or equivalent". Although, the footnote does say "DEXRON VI type ATF may also be used"

fuct 02-20-2014 01:01 PM

Looks like i stirred up the pot here! haha

only reason i made that comment was my last car (IS300 manual) went through three transmissions. i trust the engineers at nissan and figured id be all kosher and use their stuff just in case.

redline is a great product! i used it as engine oil for 20k miles.

(side note: when i bought dif fluid from nissan they just gave me some full sythn Valvoline...)


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