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1slow370 02-07-2014 03:27 AM

How high has the bar been raised?
 
Ok I am NOT worried about my oiling system, so how fast can i spin her before i get valve float? I think i saw sharp by coop was at 8500 till he blew but that was with boost and not enough fuel. I know 8100 has been done for a while till the pump blows, and i think zelminator had mentioned 8300 before. Oil pressure and consistant supply won't be an issue, nor will exploding pumps so whats up? I am also going to call JWT and see what they say, wether i should be worried about bearings, piston speeds, or valvetrain first.

Megan370z 02-07-2014 06:24 AM

the intake valve spring are much stiffer than the exhaust valve spring .
I dont remember the number but they are in the book.

Im sure they are good up to 9000 but the exhaust one, I wouldnt go higher than 8300-8400.

I tried ordering those intake valve spring but Nissan didnt want that.

If you need a side by side VHR Vs HR .. look at this.. I should have put the spring rate too..
but only the VHR intake valve spring are stiffer .. everything else has the same the spec.
http://www.the370z.com/members/megan...pring-size.jpg

fuct 02-07-2014 08:18 AM

is there a good amount of usable power in that higher range?

FPenvy 02-07-2014 08:26 AM

i have mine set for 8K redline since i got tuned last march. not sure if that helps your research or not lol

DIGItonium 02-07-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 2682856)
the intake valve spring are much stiffer than the exhaust valve spring...

I'm curious... have you considered dual valve spring setup? Ferrea only has them for the VR38, though.

critical 02-07-2014 09:49 AM

i wouldn't want to be a test dummy for this

megalapagas 02-07-2014 02:09 PM

I woukd agree aswell being at 8k but of course having a good Fuel and Oil pressure but isn't that risky business even raing the rev limiter to 8k??....*In for Updates*

FPenvy 02-07-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2683575)
I woukd agree aswell being at 8k but of course having a good Fuel and Oil pressure but isn't that risky business even raing the rev limiter to 8k??....*In for Updates*

my rev limiter is at 8k but it's not like i sit there and hold it at 8k lol i may kiss that here and there when drag racing. but i DD mine so i typically i'm not hitting the rev limiter driving to work.....unless i'm late :bowrofl: :driving:

megalapagas 02-07-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2683578)
my rev limiter is at 8k but it's not like i sit there and hold it at 8k lol i may kiss that here and there when drag racing. but i DD mine so i typically i'm not hitting the rev limiter driving to work.....unless i'm late :bowrofl: :driving:

LMFAO yea I understand xD I didn't explain myself correctly and yes I would agree as mines a DD aswell and well what were your gains at the drag strip + what were your jumbers on the dyno with your rev limiter at 8k?

megalapagas 02-07-2014 02:28 PM

I just saw your signature and your numbers *Facepalm*

FPenvy 02-07-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2683617)
LMFAO yea I understand xD I didn't explain myself correctly and yes I would agree as mines a DD aswell and well what were your gains at the drag strip + what were your jumbers on the dyno with your rev limiter at 8k?

numbers listed in the sig. i got the dyno sheet saved somewhere i'll have to find it. i really dont think they even cracked 7600 when dynoing it if i remember right. i could be wrong though.

edit: checked my sheet they took it to 7800. then the data stopped. kinda seems to drop off power wise past about 7400 though. maybe he was backing off then as well.

TerribleONE 02-07-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2683623)
numbers listed in the sig. i got the dyno sheet saved somewhere i'll have to find it. i really dont think they even cracked 7600 when dynoing it if i remember right. i could be wrong though.

edit: checked my sheet they took it to 7800. then the data stopped. kinda seems to drop off power wise past about 7400 though. maybe he was backing off then as well.

I have yet to really see anyone pick up any power by going to 8k. I really dont see what the big fuss is about with raising the rev limiter. :ugh2:

FPenvy 02-07-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2683686)
I have yet to really see anyone pick up any power by going to 8k. I really dont see what the big fuss is about with raising the rev limiter. :ugh2:

i really dont see a reason power wise but the stock rev limiter on the non-nismo Z i wanted lifted for racing reasons. there was a few times where i would be close to 7400 (stock limiter setting) and i would feel the ECU cutting in. i didnt like it so it got moved to let me drive like i wanted to without interference.

theDreamer 02-07-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2683686)
I have yet to really see anyone pick up any power by going to 8k. I really dont see what the big fuss is about with raising the rev limiter. :ugh2:

It might be if you can raise it, maintain power, and when you shift to the next gear you end up in a better part of the rev range. Allowing you to maximize power better, but at the risk of revving higher.

TerribleONE 02-07-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2683689)
i really dont see a reason power wise but the stock rev limiter on the non-nismo Z i wanted lifted for racing reasons. there was a few times where i would be close to 7400 (stock limiter setting) and i would feel the ECU cutting in. i didnt like it so it got moved to let me drive like i wanted to without interference.

If it is just to give you a little more space between your optimal shift point, and banging off the limiter I guess that somewhat makes sense. However, I dont think taking it above that on a regular basis is a good idea at all, especially when you factor in that your not making any more power.


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