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Anthny2040 08-27-2009 09:24 PM

Short throw shifter rattle
 
I installed a B&M short thro shifter about a month ago and it started rattling under hard accelerating, Around 6500 rpms it sounds like somethings loose and rattles loud. Ive taken it all apart and retorqued the bolts and everything but nothing was loose! Anyone having this problem?

theDreamer 08-28-2009 10:06 AM

Yes, mine has a rattle around 5k, I have tried a few different things to help "soften" the rattle or absorb it but nothing. If you can find the source then that will help know how to fix it.

Anthny2040 08-28-2009 04:01 PM

ya i tried finding it and it seems like its in the shift knob. Do you have the stock knob?

theDreamer 08-28-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthny2040 (Post 174808)
ya i tried finding it and it seems like its in the shift knob. Do you have the stock knob?

I have gone through four shift knobs, on my 5th now.
I had the stock one, it rattled, had two cheap shift knobs (they rattled), had a greddy shift knob (never drove fast enough to test), now I have a TWM shift knob and it rattles.

Togo 08-28-2009 04:17 PM

This is rather disappointing to hear...

Modshack 08-28-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 174812)
I have gone through four shift knobs, on my 5th now.
I had the stock one, it rattled, had two cheap shift knobs (they rattled), had a greddy shift knob (never drove fast enough to test), now I have a TWM shift knob and it rattles.


I went through this on my Vette with an aftermarket shifter...It's not the knob. The problem is that the driveline vibrates. The Z is not a lot different from the Vette in this regard. A stock shifter has enough slop and damping rubber built into it to mask the transmitted vibration and noise, making it generally acceptable. When you tighten the tolerances in the shifter and remove the OEM damping built into the shaft and various bearing pivots, you get vibration in the shifter and mechanism. This translates into a rattle in the shifter assembly. Not much you can do....

theDreamer 08-28-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 174830)
I went through this on my Vette with an aftermarket shifter...It's not the knob. The problem is that the driveline vibrates. A stock shifter has enough slop and damping rubber built into it to mask the transmitted vibration and noise, making it generally acceptable. When you tighten the tolerances in the shifter and remove the OEM damping built into the shaft, you get vibration in the shifter and mechanism. This translates into a rattle in the shifter assembly. Not much you can do....

Is there a way to absorb the rattle/movement of the shifter without creating a different shifter feel? I do love the shifter, other than when it rattles of course.

Modshack 08-28-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 174834)
Is there a way to absorb the rattle/movement of the shifter without creating a different shifter feel? I do love the shifter, other than when it rattles of course.

You can try lubing all the contact points with a good synthetic grease... that seemed to eliminate issues for awhile, but not permanently.

theDreamer 08-28-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 174843)
You can try lubing all the contact points with a good synthetic grease... that seemed to eliminate issues for awhile, but not permanently.

Sounds good, might do that when I do my exhaust install in a few months.

Anthny2040 08-28-2009 04:45 PM

Well thats sad to hear, I love the shifter but hate the rattle

theDreamer 08-28-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthny2040 (Post 174856)
Well thats sad to hear, I love the shifter but hate the rattle

You might look into the 350z short throw shifters and ask some of those companies if they are going to create a 370z shifter. If so, it might be worth jumping ship then to get rid of that rattle.

cab83_750 08-28-2009 07:51 PM

Hmmmm......this is timely, and somewhat disappointing.

Did you call the manufacturer? If so, what did they say?

And I was about ready to buy the unit. I am subscribing.

kdo2milger 09-04-2009 12:10 PM

I know mine isnt a b&m shifter, but a clone...

I believe I know where the rattle is coming from...

look at the 6th picture and on...

You see where the two shafts mate up and there is a hex bolt and locknut connecting the upper and lower shaft together...

This is where I felt obvious movement, I tightened the locknut 5 turns and it still has play, enough so that when I move it back and forth I can here it hitting metal...

So at high rpm's I could see the rattle coming from this area, just my observation, I dont have it installed yet...

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...rain-plug.html

dcrew1x 09-04-2009 12:44 PM

I just got my shifter in from Z1 Motorsports:
http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...torsports.html

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01671.jpg

I plan on getting it installed within the next 2 weeks. Since I'm re-using all the stock components, there should be no difference in "rattle" or vibration as the OEM one.

I'll post some pics and impressions later.

kdo2milger 09-05-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcrew1x (Post 186251)
I just got my shifter in from Z1 Motorsports:
http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...torsports.html

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01671.jpg

I plan on getting it installed within the next 2 weeks. Since I'm re-using all the stock components, there should be no difference in "rattle" or vibration as the OEM one.

I'll post some pics and impressions later.

looking forward to the install, and impressions...


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