Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Engine & Drivetrain (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/)
-   -   stillen aftermarket (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/83376-stillen-aftermarket.html)

james west 12-13-2013 12:40 PM
stillen aftermarket
 
wondering if a stillen exhaust and a stillen long dual intake system would be a nice upgrade with no additional tuning required. a turnkey application?:happydance:

Chuck33079 12-13-2013 12:42 PM
http://www.the370z.com/tuning/55417-...ns-thread.html

DEpointfive0 12-13-2013 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2608131)
I have many, many more bolt ons. In fact, I have EVERY bolt on and no tune

So you'll be fine

/thread

tiger123 12-13-2013 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2608136)
I have many, many more bolt ons. In fact, I have EVERY bolt on and no tune

So you'll be fine

/thread
But just imagine what a Tune would do for you. Andrew, IMHO, it's worth every penny. I have gone with Ecutek. Can't wait for the advanced features to be released. I am one of those who believe Ecutek will come through on their promise.

My Z is in storage in my garage until spring. I'm in Chicago and we have a heat wave at the moment, 28F. We also have a snow storm expected to dump up to 6" of snow.

Chuck33079 12-13-2013 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger123 (Post 2608148)
But just imagine what a Tune would do for you. Andrew, IMHO, it's worth every penny. I have gone with Ecutek. Can't wait for the advanced features to be released. I am one of those who believe Ecutek will come through on their promise.

My Z is in storage in my garage until spring. I'm in Chicago and we have a heat wave at the moment, 28F. We also have a snow storm expected to dump up to 6" of snow.
A tune would definitely make things even better. But in reference to the OP's I-have-never-met-a-search-function-I-would-use question, it's not necessary.

1st 12-13-2013 01:05 PM
You will be fine. This is what I am currently running with no issues (no tune).

Team_STILLEN 12-13-2013 03:00 PM
They are all correct. Your car will run just fine with the STILLEN Gen3's and Cat-Back Exhaust. If you add on Headers and HFC's (or Test Pipes) you should get a tune. A tune on the setup you talked about though will help it run at its best but it is not necessary.

Contact me directly here at STILLEN if you are planning on picking up those parts. I'll see what kind of deal I can get you :)

james west 12-14-2013 09:08 AM
nissan dealer
 
can a nissan dealer install these hi-performance parts on the z and also tune the engine perfectly?;)

andre12031948 12-14-2013 09:42 AM
that's two out of two - you're good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by james west (Post 2608127)
wondering if a stillen exhaust and a stillen long dual intake system would be a nice upgrade with no additional tuning required. a turnkey application?:happydance:
I'm wondering that if I have ham, eggs & home fries for breakfast, then a steak dinner, will taking a chit afterwards will be required?? I guess I would still be able to walk without it. :confused:

Datsun240Z71 12-14-2013 09:56 AM
Better to probably solicit suggestions for local shops from local Nissan, forum or Z car club members depending on where you are located.

Find a Club

Chuck33079 12-14-2013 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by james west (Post 2609087)
can a nissan dealer install these hi-performance parts on the z and also tune the engine perfectly?;)
I've never heard of a dealer tuning the car.

synolimit 12-14-2013 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2609161)
I've never heard of a dealer tuning the car.
I think middleburg hts in ohio does. Maybe not there but they love doing and selling 370's and GTRs, mod friendly.

DEpointfive0 12-14-2013 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2608317)
They are all correct. Your car will run just fine with the STILLEN Gen3's and Cat-Back Exhaust. If you add on Headers and HFC's (or Test Pipes) you should get a tune. A tune on the setup you talked about though will help it run at its best but it is not necessary.

Contact me directly here at STILLEN if you are planning on picking up those parts. I'll see what kind of deal I can get you :)
Which company will put it's money where it's mouth is? Who will guarantee me my gain/$ to be the same as another mod?

XwChriswX 12-14-2013 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by james west (Post 2608127)
wondering if a stillen exhaust and a stillen long dual intake system would be a nice upgrade with no additional tuning required. a turnkey application?:happydance:
Short answer: Yes

Long answer: No

GSS138 12-15-2013 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2609287)
Which company will put it's money where it's mouth is? Who will guarantee me my gain/$ to be the same as another mod?
I bet Church tuning up near where you are will DE. http://www.yelp.com/biz/church-autom...ing-wilmington

With our crapptastic 91 octane gas in CA it is a good idea. Car will knock every once in a while if I don't add some 100 at the track. For daily driven, might not be so big of a deal. But I can definitely tell I am on the edge of lean if I just run 91 at the track. I get a knock every once in a while on the straights at Big Willow and AAA if I don't add some of the good stuff. I have just a Gen 2 stillen and Berk HFC's +Catback.

Team_STILLEN 12-16-2013 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by james west (Post 2609087)
can a nissan dealer install these hi-performance parts on the z and also tune the engine perfectly?;)
Dealerships can install most of the parts. Some dealers seem to have some issues with the Gen 3 intakes because they don't read the instructions. I have never seen a dealership with a dyno for tuning so I would say no.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2609287)
Which company will put it's money where it's mouth is? Who will guarantee me my gain/$ to be the same as another mod?
Most companies will not provide this type of guarantee on parts that are very similar for several reasons.

1) Dyno numbers of parts, if not mounted while the car is on the dyno and the car stays strapped down will very slightly.
2) Temperature, humidity, and pressure all change your dyno numbers. So depending on the time of day the pulls are done the number will change a little.
3) Dyno numbers can be manipulated to show more of less gains and unless both companies are present I don't see them agreeing to this from a non-credible third party.

If you want a guarantee that (for example) the Gen 3's will make more power that the ______ Brand short ram intakes, we will do that all day. If testing has show very close numbers though there are too many variables for most companies to feel okay with a guarantee.

DEpointfive0 12-16-2013 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2611534)
Dealerships can install most of the parts. Some dealers seem to have some issues with the Gen 3 intakes because they don't read the instructions. I have never seen a dealership with a dyno for tuning so I would say no.



Most companies will not provide this type of guarantee on parts that are very similar for several reasons.

1) Dyno numbers of parts, if not mounted while the car is on the dyno and the car stays strapped down will very slightly.
2) Temperature, humidity, and pressure all change your dyno numbers. So depending on the time of day the pulls are done the number will change a little.
3) Dyno numbers can be manipulated to show more of less gains and unless both companies are present I don't see them agreeing to this from a non-credible third party.

If you want a guarantee that (for example) the Gen 3's will make more power that the ______ Brand short ram intakes, we will do that all day. If testing has show very close numbers though there are too many variables for most companies to feel okay with a guarantee.
I'd just like to see what "a tune" will do for me.
I have Stillem G3's, a Stillen UD pulley, a Stillen CBE, a Stillen front bumper, besides that, test piptes and Momentum Headers.
I just want to see a tune get me xxWHP for the cost of a tune. (I know other parameters are played with, but I'm just wanting to measure WHP)

Team_STILLEN 12-16-2013 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2611636)
I'd just like to see what "a tune" will do for me.
I have Stillem G3's, a Stillen UD pulley, a Stillen CBE, a Stillen front bumper, besides that, test piptes and Momentum Headers.
I just want to see a tune get me xxWHP for the cost of a tune. (I know other parameters are played with, but I'm just wanting to measure WHP)
With those kind of mods, you should be able to get around ~15 whp throughout the power band with a good tune (maybe more). We got ~15 whp on a 370Z with similar mods (but Gen2 intakes) here at STILLEN and my tuner said he could get more with Gen3's. If you want to bring your car in for Dyno Tuning contact me directly.

Chuck33079 12-16-2013 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2611636)
I'd just like to see what "a tune" will do for me.
I have Stillem G3's, a Stillen UD pulley, a Stillen CBE, a Stillen front bumper, besides that, test piptes and Momentum Headers.
I just want to see a tune get me xxWHP for the cost of a tune. (I know other parameters are played with, but I'm just wanting to measure WHP)
Look more at area under the curve. You'll only make a few hp up top, but the increase under 4-5k rpm will be much more dramatic.

DEpointfive0 12-16-2013 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2611822)
Look more at area under the curve. You'll only make a few hp up top, but the increase under 4-5k rpm will be much more dramatic.
I agree for sure. Total gain of area under the curve is what you're really looking for

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2611817)
With those kind of mods, you should be able to get around ~15 whp throughout the power band with a good tune (maybe more). We got ~15 whp on a 370Z with similar mods (but Gen2 intakes) here at STILLEN and my tuner said he could get more with Gen3's. If you want to bring your car in for Dyno Tuning contact me directly.
I'd gladly pay for tune if you got me 15WHP, do you guys play with the VVEL at all?
And get your manager on board, let's put Stillen's money where their mouth is, lol

( Click to show/hide )
Better yet, let's sponsor it; I already bought all my parts at retail

OMGiGOTaZ 12-16-2013 04:25 PM
No to HiJack the thread but why not STILLEN HFC DEpointfive0?

Team_STILLEN 12-16-2013 04:37 PM
We can get you the 15 whp on the tune and probably more torque than that (assuming your engine is in good shape). We are too busy at the shop to do a sponsored tune but I will do what I can for you.

On a side note, if you have test/race pipes you will need to get the car towed off the lot. Because of our CARB permits we can't let non-road legal cars drive off the lot.

H2O_Doc 12-16-2013 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2612280)
We can get you the 15 whp on the tune and probably more torque than that (assuming your engine is in good shape). We are too busy at the shop to do a sponsored tune but I will do what I can for you.

On a side note, if you have test/race pipes you will need to get the car towed off the lot. Because of our CARB permits we can't let non-road legal cars drive off the lot.
Can a person bring a friend and push a car off the lot?

Team_STILLEN 12-16-2013 05:59 PM
Sadly no, it has to be towed off the lot.

GSS138 12-16-2013 06:45 PM
Can I show up with a rope and tow him in my 370? I am 10 mins away in Mission Viejo :).

DEpointfive0 12-16-2013 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ (Post 2612268)
No to HiJack the thread but why not STILLEN HFC DEpointfive0?
No comment

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2612280)
We can get you the 15 whp on the tune and probably more torque than that (assuming your engine is in good shape). We are too busy at the shop to do a sponsored tune but I will do what I can for you.

On a side note, if you have test/race pipes you will need to get the car towed off the lot. Because of our CARB permits we can't let non-road legal cars drive off the lot.
What if my car has TX plates?

Team_STILLEN 12-16-2013 07:02 PM
You still have to tow it out of here.

DEpointfive0 12-16-2013 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2612490)
You still have to tow it out of here.
Tell me when the CARB guys aren't working, or just leave my car parked outside. I'll "steal" it in the night, lol

If something can be worked out, I don't mind getting a tow

GSS138 12-17-2013 08:11 AM
Stillen good to know you guys do Dyno there, I am looking for a tune as well. Maybe I'll come up there when DE does.

DEpointfive0 12-17-2013 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2613293)
Stillen good to know you guys do Dyno there, I am looking for a tune as well. Maybe I'll come up there when DE does.
Yeah we can both get towed off the lot, LMAO

Team_STILLEN 12-17-2013 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2613293)
Stillen good to know you guys do Dyno there, I am looking for a tune as well. Maybe I'll come up there when DE does.
Awesome! What mods do you have done to your car that you would like tuning for?

If you both come in together I can give you guys a little bit of a group discount. You only have to get towed out if your car is not smog legal (IE Test Pipes, Turbo, HFC's).

John_Kay 12-17-2013 12:37 PM
I guess the question is
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2613560)
Awesome! What mods do you have done to your car that you would like tuning for?

If you both come in together I can give you guys a little bit of a group discount. You only have to get towed out if your car is not smog legal (IE Test Pipes, Turbo, HFC's).
How much are we looking to spend for a tune at Stillen? and what kind of tune software do you guys use? (i currently have G3, Stillen CBE, and soon HFC i dont have the HFC yet).

on a side note what if I dont tell you about my test pipes? :O

DEpointfive0 12-17-2013 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_Kay (Post 2613721)
How much are we looking to spend for a tune at Stillen? and what kind of tune software do you guys use? (i currently have G3, Stillen CBE, and soon HFC i dont have the HFC yet).

on a side note what if I dont tell you about my test pipes? :O
Dynojet and UpRev.

Chuck33079 12-17-2013 01:54 PM
If someone had a truck and trailer, they could make a quick couple of bucks towing cars from Stillen's parking lot across the street. :rofl2:

DEpointfive0 12-17-2013 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2613853)
If someone had a truck and trailer, they could make a quick couple of bucks towing cars from Stillen's parking lot across the street. :rofl2:
Technically any shop, Fast Intentions, the other one... Lol

GSS138 12-17-2013 02:33 PM
A 2-fer!

Team_STILLEN 12-17-2013 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_Kay (Post 2613721)
How much are we looking to spend for a tune at Stillen? and what kind of tune software do you guys use? (i currently have G3, Stillen CBE, and soon HFC i dont have the HFC yet).

on a side note what if I dont tell you about my test pipes? :O
We will see the test pipes when we put the car up on the dyno so there is no real way around it.

We use UpRev Software for tuning.

Tuning here is $125 an hour with a minimum of 2 hours. I can knock off $62.50 per additional customer. So normally 2 tunes would be $500, for forum members: 2 would be $437.50, and for 3 it would be $625.00 (and so on and so forth). If you guys want to get a group larger than 3 together I can see if I can do any better but I can't promise anything. The tuning license from UpRev is $299.00 + Tax and it is an additional $200.00 + tax if you want your own cable so you can pull your tune off with your own laptop.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2