GREAT, please confirm my beliefs!
 

I've just about had it if my thoughts become truth. I have an '09 with 27,3XX on the clock. I hop into my car today, didn't notice anything different. Run some errands, hop back in, and my clutch now has two "engagement levels (what I'm calling them)." I push a little less than halfway, nothing, then it clicks into the engagement zone (the second half to the floor), and comes all the way back up. However, this is a totally new feeling. I always had one solid push and then one solid return.

I used to never be able to really easily push it in with my hand...until today. Dad even said it noticeably feels different. I swear to God if this is the clutch failing I'm done with Nissan. I had the dreaded steering wheel lock issue and was on the hook for that because I'm out of warranty simply because of the years (absolute BS in my opinion). Luckily, I ripped consumer affairs a new one and had that covered by them.

I start my first career job this upcoming Monday and it's in sales, so of course I'll be driving a lot and NOW I get this. I don't even have time to take it in to them to evaluate because I'm leaving town tonight until tomorrow. Does this seem to fit into the sticky thread for the CSC? Am I really going to be on the line for a new clutch now?


Kill me.

Just relax.
The steering lock WAS recalled.

And sounds like CSC, will be covered under the power train warranty

I called Nissan and the man said it may just be fluids. I'm just stressed. I'm all spent from the new job starting and had my first horrible winter experience with my car and will likely have to trade it in. I'm hoping to survive this winter because I'll be able to afford the car I want around the fall...but whether the Z can actually survive this NJ winter is another story. So safe to say this is the last thing I need.

Thanks DE for always have a quick response. If you remember though, the lock wasn't recalled at the time of my battle with them, lol.

I do.

And it ain't fluid (it may be low too) but the CSC is still shot

Please tell me this doesn't mean you're trying to drive your Z in winter conditions on summer rubber.

Update: clutch is on the floor. ******* wonderful. Happy ******* holidays. Glad I had a mere 2 hours notice to do anything about it. Went to get in to drop it off to Nissan anddddddd NOPE.

Oh, and DE, it's not covered. Go figure. Unless this service dude writes it up as such. That's my only chance.

It's covered under the 5 year/60k warranty. Don't let them feed you bull.
Someone else just made a thread for this and these was a linked post to another thread

same thing happened to me at 24k. they covered it because they said my clutch looked great and not abused.

sorry man...

Alright. I'll be sure to say that when they call me back. Any link to that thread? I literally cannot afford replacing it right now.

Just called. No 5 year 60K because it's wear and year. They have a 3 year 36K which kf course I'm a year out of. Told me to do the consumer affairs battle again. I'm done with Nissan, never again.

Nissan told me it was $400 just to open the tranny and check the CSC.

but if its covered under warranty.....

failing hydrauilcs is not wear and tear. IT's bs ream someone out. The bearing is a wear component it should not fail until the bearing is shot. if it were wear and tear it would state it in the maintenance schedule.

Yeah but Fuct were you within the 3 year window? They keep saying I'm not in warranty. I'll know more once I tow it to them tomorrow. YIPPEE!

its powertrain. It has been done under powertrain before, you're going to have to call nissan if your dealer is playing games with you. They will try to tell you it isn't warranty because they can charge you more than nissan would pay them for warranty. Nissan will pay for it you are just more profitable.

Hi,

I think it would be safe to say that it is a little bit of over kill to be over your car because of the clutch issue.

Our zeds have alot of positive attributes that are very hard to ignore.
Get the clutch issue fixed - lots of good aftermarket choices here on the forums to choose. If pricing is an issur to get fixed - that's sometimes the 'long and short ' of it when owning a Zed.

I to use my vehicle for work in sales - and had your very problem. It is expensive to fix, but I bit the bullet and fixed the issue - and have had no problems since.

Cheers.

I hear you Pepi but in the past 7K I've had the steering lock issue, some unexplainable light in the dash where Nissan was trying to charge me an arm and a leg to look for, and now I have a dead clutch. I came from two Hondas, one that I put 15K into in parts and **** and never had an issue. I've seen the car on a flatbed one too many times. I'm pretty tired of paying that fee too.

I don't know about you
 

but I think I woke up this morning with a case of hemorrhoids.

It sounds like you need a new dealership, not a new car. Didn't you get reimbursed for the steering lock? And your clutch is fine. It's the slave that went out.

Yeah Chuck, but it took me flipping out to get that far and that's nothing something owning a car should make anyone do. I had to raise hell to get that back. Dealing with the dealerships is a pain because I'm 24 with a baby face and they just assume I'm some young ******* who they can walk over. Little do they know I educate myself before starting any war with them. Thank God for forums and people like you guys.

Agreed, it should not be that much of a fight. Is there another dealer near you? Can someone in your local subforum recommend a more reasonable dealer, even if you have to go a little farther?

Surprisingly there isn't a lot of Nissan around here. It's odd. We have 2 of about every other company BUT Nissan. After finding and reading the thread DE discussed, if it's the CSC, I'm getting this covered. I'll have them read the warranty booklet where the CSC isn't under the "not covered" section for the powertrain warranty. I'm hoping they can figure it out today (long shot) so I can work the phones the rest of the weekend.

I've been doing it. Can't hold traction for crap under acceleration. And round the block with snow took 10 minutes. Couldn't get over 2mph haha.

Minor update: Still no diagnostic, I'll get that Monday hopefully and can start this consumer affairs process again. It sucks, the woman I dealt with for my steering wheel lock got switched to another region. That doesn't help me. However, the two service managers are looking for every reason to help me here (the positive). The one is the son of one of my mom's close friends from way back.

I asked to check under the power train for the slave cylinder. If it was under there before, it no longer is. The mechanic who worked on my car before was a non bullshitter and being straight up, so I appreciated that. But, everything involving the clutch was only under the 3-year warranty. The only thing that was under the power train was the bearing. The mechanic was confused saying "they're all basically under the same thing, but why is this one under the PT and the rest is the 3-year?"

Jeff (the service manager, who also worked with me on my steering wheel lock) said he thinks the Z's are different than the Altimas and Sentras because the bearing and cylinder are one piece on those cars (making it easily covered), however the Z is two. That's his guesstimate though, I'm sure someone reading this would know that answer.

They were going to try to throw it under the transmission, but they said all of that stuff goes back to Nissan so if they pull that and Nissan doesn't see anything wrong, the dealership is murdering themselves.

I don't know where to quite go now. It seems like it's just consumer affairs or pay. However, I have no option outside of letting the car sit there until Nissan gets me my money because I don't have the money to pay it. So, this should be interesting come Monday/Tuesday.

What's everyone else think?

Issue: Master brake cylinder

Fix: None from Nissan. Those pieces of **** basically spit in my face with a mere 10% discount. Looking forward to hearing back from their "highest" consumer affairs rep tomorrow to fight it even more. Car is fixed and mobile again.

Wtf does a brake master cylinder have to do with a clutch?

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good question

you're getting walked over. don't put up with this BS

I'm just as confused as all of you. Trust me.

Correct me if im wrong, I have a 7AT but. Do you guy have a hydrolic clutch? Have you checked the fluid level??

Its the CSC what happens is it brakes and physically leaks fluid into the transmission, its a common problem with every MT 370z

Plus this is a sealed system, it should never leak fluid unless the CSC is broken or you have a leak somewhere.
Its exactly the same a hydraulic brakes, should never leak unless something is broken.

Yeah, they're being real standoffish about even calling my dad back. With my work schedule, I've let him deal with it and even he snapped (often very composed). The only thing I appreciated was my dealers mechanic saying "I could change the fluid like they're going to recommend to the GTR stuff, but you know as well as I do you'll be right back in here."

This happened to me a few months ago. Clutch started acting funny until I had to pry it of the floor with the toe of my shoe. Luckily I was two exits away from my dealer. They checked and found that the fluid, (all of it), was gone...bone dry. They filled it free of charge, out of warranty, and sent me on my way. Clutch hasn't had a problem since, but after reading this thread now I'm wondering if there's a CSC leak into my tranny.

My CSC gave out at 40k, and my z is out of warranty. Some people had luck getting the dealer to repair this outside of warranty and some didn't. I towed it to my local dealer hoping it would fall under the powertrain warranty. Dealer said they would have to take apart the tranny to find/confirm the problem despite me telling them it's the CSC. I'm also responsible for the labor cost and it's highly unlikely that it'll be covered under the powertrain warranty. Needless to say, I towed the Z to a local shop and installed an Exedy clutch for the same price the stealer would've charged.

Also, the fluid leaked all over the clutch so I replaced the entire clutch instead of just the CSC.

Yeah. I got it fixed and just went the "screw this thing, I'm ordering a new car and never buying a Nissan ever again" route. I have a 4MATIC CLA on its way to me come March.

This is not a personal attack against you OP, I work at a multi franchise dealer in service, do you realize how petty these issues are in the big picture, I actually work for Honda I am an Advisor, and say what you will, I know what I am doing. I have a LIST of common issues with Hondas that I see, no car is perfect, just as our Nissans are not, if you are trading out of this car it is for other reasons, not a bad CSC or master or whatever it was, there are proven aftermarket alternative parts that work, i.e. zspeed hd csc . I work with a former Nissan service manager, and their warranty system is not as forgiving like Honda, if your run the part number and it bounces, it's NOT COVERED, a car is no different than any other product with a warranty, appliances, lawn equipment, you name it, a limited warranty is a agreed upon time or mileage when you purchase the car, if you do not like the terms of the warranty, buy another car, which you have... maybe if you cause enough fuss, you will get help...Honda is a push over, we give out goodwill like it is candy, Nissan is not... The general consumer is unable to see the big picture or understand terms ansd conditions, and to this day growing up in this business(3rd generation in service,but I want out) I cannot for the life of me understand why consumers feel the car company is obligated to fix a vehicle out of warranty, blows my mind...How do you think all the goodwill and BS(some are legit I know) warranty claims are paid for(hopefully rhetorical)?
I would take an accord or base tl over that cheap pos they are calling a Benz(no offense on your decision, just my opinion)...our benz dealer is 50 yards to the right of my building and I have seen these cars...Sounds like the sports car life is not for you, this is the stuff we take on with owning a car like this. I guess I see it different because of my experiences, but glad to hear your car is fixed.

This is not personally directed at you OP, just a little venting obsevation.

And you think an entry-level Benz is going to be more reliable than your Nissan?

Maybe, maybe not....I think he's going to find out on his own that no car is perfect. At least he's got a bumper to bumper warranty now, lol.

Yeah, not only less reliable but more cost cutting services. Its a volume model with less overhead for extras, like good service.

Oh and enjoy the CLA issue with the check engine light.
Check engine light on after 48 hours
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