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AzSpeng 01-15-2014 12:39 PM

hmmmmm What would you guys pay for something thats solid aluminum thats milled out or a combo of waterjet components that are cnc milled out and bolted together? Something like the GTR brace only lighter, stronger, and zero welds

Ron 01-15-2014 01:11 PM

No idea. That GTR brace is $600. KM Front Strut Tower Brace Kit, R35 Nissan GT-R, SFS_R35_StrutBar but that has welds and I don't know what the rest of the manufacturing process is.

AzSpeng 01-15-2014 01:37 PM

I might come in around the same price maybe an extra $100-150

Ron 01-15-2014 02:03 PM

I think that's reasonable.

phunk 01-15-2014 03:29 PM

man... gonna take some special dies and a lot of muscle to bend that extruded aluminum on that axis. pretty cool.

AzSpeng 01-15-2014 03:37 PM

who said it has to be extruded aluminum ;) why not make it out of plate and add webbing on the backside? Would be stronger and perform better! Just takes a big cnc mill to machine something like that out ;) I just so happen to have something with those travels.

phunk 01-15-2014 04:03 PM

I am just commenting on that particular GTR version. Ya its not worth tooling up custom to make a strut bar for just one car. Watch out for the weight fiends in the Z world if you go 1 solid billet on that sucker. Good thing CAD can tell you exactly what it weighs before you machine it.

XwChriswX 01-15-2014 04:05 PM

The only downside to removing the rear angles is that:

1. a triangle is a stronger shape right?
2. it will make that center trim piece look very odd with nothing going under it?

:ugh2:

Ron 01-15-2014 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2653132)
The only downside to removing the rear angles is that:

1. a triangle is a stronger shape right?
2. it will make that center trim piece look very odd with nothing going under it?

:ugh2:

This is for Z's with aftermarket intake manifolds (future)

1. The rear angles would be kept. The difference is that the main bar wont run straight from tower to tower, it will run in front of the intake manifold. Might not be the strongest shape but it's better than removing the brace altogether.

2. With a different manifold, the center trim piece would no longer fit.

XwChriswX 01-15-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2653221)
1. The rear angles would be kept. The difference is that the main bar wont run straight from tower to tower, it will run in front of the intake manifold. Might not be the strongest shape but it's better than removing the brace altogether.

2.This is for Z's with aftermarket (future) intake manifolds, the center trim piece would no longer fit regardless..

So we'd be taking a straight bar and putting bends/angles in it, thereby sacrificing rigidity for looks?

I gotta side with the function > form guys on this one... :ugh2:

I don't mean the engine cover trim, I mean the center trim piece under the windshield wipers... That doesn't get removed for swapping an IM?

Ron 01-15-2014 05:06 PM

Uhh who said this was for looks? This is for people who will be using aftermarket intake manifolds and want a solution, albeit a slightly compromised one, for the strut tower brace.. GTM and ChrisUR already proved the stock one can't be used with aftermarket/GTR intake manifolds. Phunk is close to arriving at the same conclusion and I assume once AZ starts on his manifold he will see that as well.

The bars going to the center trim piece would still be there.

AzSpeng 01-15-2014 05:06 PM

function always takes over form...but I can make form and function be 1 in the same ;)

Ron 01-15-2014 05:09 PM

This is rather...ugly.. but you get idea. Rear angle bars would be there. The center piece would be similar to the GTR brace posted earlier.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...psadb67b27.png

XwChriswX 01-15-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2653246)
Uhh who said this was for looks? This is for people who will be using aftermarket intake manifolds and want a solution, albeit a slightly compromised one, for the strut tower brace.. GTM and ChrisUR already proved the stock one can't be used with aftermarket/GTR intake manifolds. Phunk is close to arriving at the same conclusion and I assume once AZ starts on his manifold he will see that as well.

The bars going to the center trim piece would still be there.

I understand the point of the OEM bar doesn't work with it, but is there no other way than making an inferior (in terms of rigidity) product?

I thought that's why you highlighted the rear bars in my pic was that those would go away? (I must have misread what you were explaining, my bad.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2653247)
function always takes over form...but I can make form and function be 1 in the same ;)

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...t4eWCDKcMu.jpg

:icon17:

XwChriswX 01-15-2014 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2653250)
This is rather...ugly.. but you get idea. Rear angle bars would be there. The center piece would be similar to the GTR brace posted earlier.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...psadb67b27.png

Okay, that makes more sense..

But PLEASE AZ, make a front bar that does look more aesthetically pleasing than the one seen here...


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