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bucketman 08-20-2009 10:22 PM

Nismo oil cooler install
 
Has anyone done the oil cooler install on a nismo yet? The reason I ask is that somebody put a shock mounted horizontal right where it seems all the oil cooler kits are installed(including the nissan unit). There does not seem to be enough clearance between the damper and the condensor coil. Thinking that I will either have to angle it severely forward or use the setrab 9 series(really long) and keep the height low. Any thoughts?

vipor 12-30-2009 09:53 AM

I second this request. I've heard of people removing the stabalizer bar, but I'm not on board with that idea.

Modshack 12-30-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 161610)
or use the setrab 9 series(really long) and keep the height low. Any thoughts?

Just use a Low profile cooler and fit the cooler to the area you have to work with.. Long and low should be fine. Even the standard sized cooler I have installed is more than is needed for street use..DIY link in the sig!

vipor 12-30-2009 04:32 PM

if the cooler can be mounted on the lip in front of the condenser then i think it will fit behind the stabilizer bar but i haven't gotten into it far enough to know for sure. a guy in the Z Club looked at it and showed me his cooler and it looks possible. maybe i'll just order one and give it a shot. definitely not removing the stabilizer bar permanently though.

bucketman 12-30-2009 05:38 PM

If you use the setrab brackets it won't fit behind the damper. Custom might. I used a setrab series 9, three track days, only one problem. That event I was running dino oil and the car got up to limp mode temps. switched to Royal purple, no more problems.

Dustin@Z1 12-30-2009 05:44 PM

Hey Bucketman and other NISMO 370Z owners...here is how you install a Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler onto a NISMO.

That lateral stabilizer..which is actually for Harmonics not for chassis stiffness (this is based on a discussion with a Nissan Motorsports Representative)...anyway...take that stabilizer, unbolt it from the front end. The FATTER end of the stabilizer comes factory on the driver side, right where you are installing the cooler. You will need to just flip it around 180 degrees putting the FATTER end on the passenger side. By doing this, it makes the NISMO/AUTECH label upside down but it does not hurt its performance.

Once you do that, you will be good to go on the installation.

Dustin@Z1 12-30-2009 05:46 PM

Also, you can flip that mounting bracket around either way. If you mount it with the tabbed edge facing towards the front bumper, it will make the oil cooler stand about 2 to 3 inches from the condenser. If you flip the bracket around the other direction, it will move the cooler closer to the condensor.

Give me a shout if you guys need any help with the installation!

bucketman 12-31-2009 02:49 AM

Thanks for the info. Seen the damper flipped before and would have bought a little bit taller cooler if I had seen it before I installed mine. I wanted my hose in/out on the bottom so couldn't flip the bracket. Have run a couple of track days and what I installed will do for now.

Midax 01-03-2010 04:01 PM

Will all the oil coolers fit behind damper if you flip it, or just the Nismo one?

bucketman 01-05-2010 10:03 AM

I am sure most would fit on top of the plastic support behind the damper if you flipped it. That won't work if you want the hoses coming off the bottom, which is what I wanted. Once you have the front bumper off you will see, or even if you look in with a flashlight, there is about 2 inches on top of the support before you get to the condensor.

Dustin@Z1 01-13-2010 11:25 AM

I can vouch for the 34 Row Nissan Motorsports and all 3 of our Oil Cooler Cores. I am not sure about the Stillen due to the type of bracket that thay are using with their oil cooler kits.

stiso 01-13-2010 01:22 PM

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I have a nismo also, bought an oil cooler from GTM and mounted it in front of the stabalizer bar, it fits fine, another member "Rackley" posted the install in the DIY section which I used for my install, his car is not a nismo though and he mounted his upside down, i mounted mine with lines from the top (just use to it that way), I used their brackets but did have to make and modify my own for proper fit...... Sorry not the best pic but didn't take any without the nose off. I chose GTM because there sandwhich plate works off a thermastat unlike stillens, and i didn't want to move the power steering cooler (see stillen oil cooler instructions), hope this helps

Urbanracer 01-13-2010 04:37 PM

Thanks for the info on the GTM cooler, this is the one that I was thinking about buying and now plan on buying. I especially like that the GTM includes the sandwich plate.

Dustin@Z1 01-15-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbanracer (Post 360497)
Thanks for the info on the GTM cooler, this is the one that I was thinking about buying and now plan on buying. I especially like that the GTM includes the sandwich plate.


All of the oil cooler kits include the sandwich adapter plates, I am not sure I understand what you mean by that?

Currently both the Stillen and Z1 kits use a Earl's Sandwich Adapter while the Nissan Motorsports uses a CNC made unit that they have created.

vipor 01-15-2010 09:06 AM

my oil cooler will be in by the end of next week! will be shipping out today :happydance:

i'll be getting it installed by the end of the month and i'll make sure to document the whole process for the other Nismo owners out there.

G Fo12ce 01-15-2010 10:04 AM

Vipor, what did you end up getting? I'm going to look out for your write up as I'm interested in seeing the install on a NISMO too.

vipor 01-15-2010 10:39 AM

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http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1263573424

setrab 19 row cooler

also got transmission and diff fluid. gonna replace that stuff at the same time.

503$ including shipping :tup:

henryv007 01-21-2010 06:55 PM

Dont forget to insulate any of the stainless steel lines where ever they touch eachother or inparticular, the body or suspension of the car. If you dont, you "may" end up with a noise caused by them rubbing. Stillen tech said high pictched type noise. I wrapped each spot that might rub with a small section of heater hose,. split open to wrap the line with, then secured with black zip tie(s). That way, no worries and it should never rub through the lines, or make any noise. Not as pretty but you cant see them!

Dustin@Z1 01-22-2010 08:32 AM

From talking with both Nissan Motorsports and Stillen, the assumption is that the noise is some how related to the oil pump?? The Aeroquip Socketless hose we offer in our kit addresses this problem as well as makes installation (i.e, hose routing) alot easier.

And for you guys looking to build your own kits, I highly recommend the Aeroquip Socketless Hose. Trying to cut and install this hose is alot simplier and less harazdous to your hands and fingers when cutting. Anyone who has installed AN- Fittings on SS Line knows it is a PITA, especially on smaller diameters.

Modshack 01-22-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 370034)

And for you guys looking to build your own kits, I highly recommend the Aeroquip Socketless Hose. Trying to cut and install this hose is alot simplier and less harazdous to your hands and fingers when cutting. Anyone who has installed AN- Fittings on SS Line knows it is a PITA, especially on smaller diameters.

:iagree: strongly with Dustin here...Having built many braided lines, and now the Socketless for my DIY cooler, I'll never go back. Easy routing, easy assembly. On the car for 3K miles now with no issues whatsoever..

motoextreme 01-22-2010 10:11 AM

Never mind that other thread Vipor, this is the one I've been looking for. Guess I'll just pick one up pretty quick. Thanks for the info, been wondering which one would fit or not.

vipor 01-22-2010 10:12 AM

24 hours and the bumper should be off and the cooler will be getting installed :excited:

vipor 01-22-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by motoextreme (Post 370153)
Never mind that other thread Vipor, this is the one I've been looking for. Guess I'll just pick one up pretty quick. Thanks for the info, been wondering which one would fit or not.

ill check the extra clearance for a larger cooler when i do my install, both vertical and horizontal. the setrab 9 series 25 row is like 3 inches wider, so it'll be good to know.

henryv007 01-23-2010 02:23 PM

Stillen said the noise was from the oil pump??Thats not what the tech told me and as a "used to be" Nissan mechanic that makes little sense. The Stillen tech stated they attributed it to the lines rubbing together with the metal covers and rubbing on the frame. Oil pump would be pretty hard to hear sitting in the oil and such.. Fuel pump could make noise and be heard.

vipor 01-23-2010 02:26 PM

Oil Cooler DIY on a Nismo is being worked on guys :D just got home after finishing. came out great :tup:

vipor 01-23-2010 05:56 PM

It is done. Let me know what you think.

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ded-vipor.html

motoextreme 01-24-2010 01:00 AM

What a great write up and perfect install!

thank you very much man, I'm doing mine now, COOL

vipor 01-24-2010 01:34 AM

:tiphat:

DooDooBrown 01-24-2010 04:46 PM

Steering away from it. My car isn't on the track enough, and I have heard of widespread problems with winter tempatures and the oil not getting up to temp!!

Dustin@Z1 01-25-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryv007 (Post 371670)
Stillen said the noise was from the oil pump??Thats not what the tech told me and as a "used to be" Nissan mechanic that makes little sense. The Stillen tech stated they attributed it to the lines rubbing together with the metal covers and rubbing on the frame. Oil pump would be pretty hard to hear sitting in the oil and such.. Fuel pump could make noise and be heard.

I m not entirely sure where the noise is coming from, the claim about it being from the oil pump was not directly from Stillen, myself and others here at the shop have been investigating this noise whenever it arises. We have installed numerous oil cooler kits with both SS and the Aeroquip Socketless Hose. For some reason, the SS line, even when insulated with either a rubber heater hose or a matching ID Silicone hose, seems to still generate the whining noise.

We had one customer come back and actually make the swap to the socketless line since it seems to completely eliminate the sound all together.

vipor 01-25-2010 08:17 AM

I do have a very slight low pitched noise in my system. My brother played with some stuff while I held it at 1500rpms (the noise is the most obvious there) and we came up with the decision that it was just the noise of the oil flowing through the cooler. It also may be a vibration in the cooler carrying on to the front support that it's mounted to. Waiting for a sunny day so I can get down and look a little better. Has anyone else experienced this? There are no leaks, no rattles, and my temps are quite low compared to before (probably 25-30degs.) It's a sound I can put up with for sure, just wondering.

Dustin@Z1 01-25-2010 10:47 AM

That is the noise we are discussing. To the normal person, who does know their 370Z. They may not notice it. But owners who have logged alot of mileage and know the noises of their cars will be able to pick it out as a *new* noise.

vipor 01-25-2010 10:52 AM

Oh I noticed it immediately. Reminded me of a power steering whine. Threw it in neutral, gassed it to 1500 and turned the wheel.. no difference. Not power steering.

Seems to vary with RPM but not directly, so oil flow would make sense. My brother said that tugging on the oil hose made it vary just a little so that was our thought. I watch my temps, check for leaks, and just drive as normal. No big really.

StealthZ 01-26-2010 10:17 AM

To try and keep noise down on previous cars and equipment I tried to keep the lines as snug as possible with only allowing minimum line movement. It will help to prevent noise and chaffing of the lines and surrounding components. I used a lot of Nomex/kevlar string and tape, and many small cushion clamps in these cases.


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