Clutch failed for the 4th time

Glambutang · 11-05-2013, 04:48 PM

UPDATED
Hey guys so my clutch pedal dropped to the floor again for the 4th time

. A month ago dealer installed new slave cylinder. First and second owners had to deal with the same issue. Here is the list of things that got replaced first time http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...tml#post842990. So after a month of driving since new csc clutch fell to the floor again, i brought it to the dealer they are scratching their heads because everything looked fine when they worked on it and there is no way something else could of failed. They are going to bleed clutch fluid but im more than positive that it will be temporary fix if it helps at all.
Right now clutch works when it wants to sometimes it feels normal, soft or all the way to the floor, but with either scenario cars lacking acceleration its doing 5000 rpm on 4th gear at 40mph

. What are my options here? Should i be prepared for getting new transmission or would it be worth doing it instead of dropping 800$ every month? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you

IDZRVIT · 11-06-2013, 07:01 AM

Trade in time!

Rusty · 11-06-2013, 11:09 AM

You need a new clutch master cylinder, and an aftermarket CSC.

Chuck33079 · 11-06-2013, 11:12 AM

If they keep installing the failure-prone OEM CSC, it will continue to fail. Ask them if they'll install an aftermarket one this time if you bring them the part.

DIGItonium · 11-06-2013, 11:15 AM

Switch to DOT 4 fluid like the one used in the GT-R?

Alstann · 11-06-2013, 01:26 PM

Sounds like master cylinder failure. Bleeding it helps temporarily, but once the seal goes, it goes and it's all downhill from there. Aftermarket for the win!

Glambutang · 11-08-2013, 07:24 PM

So as expected bleeding helped for a day. Now pedal soft/ on the floor.

What are my options here at this point? Dealer has no idea what to do, both clutch and master cylinder are month old, and there are no leaks. They handed me my keys and told me to F**k off in a polite manner. So im standing at the point where clutch doesn't work and nobody tells me what i can do. You guys are my last option. Thank you!

Z-Girl 12 · 11-08-2013, 07:52 PM

Trade it

Chuck33079 · 11-08-2013, 07:54 PM

Aftermarket master and CSC and a different shop?

Glambutang · 11-08-2013, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Trade it

No trades for me i love this car its not even a matter of money.
I found this South Bend Complete DXD 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel Package

Chuck33079 · 11-08-2013, 08:15 PM

Why put in another OEM master cylinder? It'll just fail again.

Glambutang · 11-08-2013, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Why put in another OEM master cylinder? It'll just fail again.

What aftermarket csc would you suggest, thank you for your time by the way

Chuck33079 · 11-08-2013, 08:25 PM

There's an aftermarket CSC in the kit you posted so you're good there, but they also give you a OEM master. Talk to Alstann (?) about a better master. Do you need a new clutch and flywheel, or are you replacing it simply because the transmission will be out and it cuts down on labor costs?

Glambutang · 11-08-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There's an aftermarket CSC in the kit you posted so you're good there, but they also give you a OEM master. Talk to Alstann (?) about a better master. Do you need a new clutch and flywheel, or are you replacing it simply because the transmission will be out and it cuts down on labor costs?

Yea I figured might as well replace the flywheel while transmission is out. The one i have currently is good but has 50k miles on it so i figured its not for a while. I will contact him

Chuck33079 · 11-08-2013, 08:29 PM

Not a bad plan. Two things. One, be prepared for a lot of noise from the flywheel. It's not broken, that's just the noise a light flywheel makes. Two, that's a stout clutch and it's way overkill for anything but a big turbo setup.

11-05-2013, 04:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Glambutang Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New York Posts: 86 Drives: Honda, im a ricer Rep Power: 12	Clutch failed for the 4th time UPDATED Hey guys so my clutch pedal dropped to the floor again for the 4th time . A month ago dealer installed new slave cylinder. First and second owners had to deal with the same issue. Here is the list of things that got replaced first time http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...tml#post842990. So after a month of driving since new csc clutch fell to the floor again, i brought it to the dealer they are scratching their heads because everything looked fine when they worked on it and there is no way something else could of failed. They are going to bleed clutch fluid but im more than positive that it will be temporary fix if it helps at all. Right now clutch works when it wants to sometimes it feels normal, soft or all the way to the floor, but with either scenario cars lacking acceleration its doing 5000 rpm on 4th gear at 40mph . What are my options here? Should i be prepared for getting new transmission or would it be worth doing it instead of dropping 800$ every month? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you Last edited by Glambutang; 11-08-2013 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Update

11-06-2013, 07:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 27	Trade in time! __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

11-06-2013, 11:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,185 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	You need a new clutch master cylinder, and an aftermarket CSC. Trips and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

11-06-2013, 11:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	If they keep installing the failure-prone OEM CSC, it will continue to fail. Ask them if they'll install an aftermarket one this time if you bring them the part. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-06-2013, 11:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Switch to DOT 4 fluid like the one used in the GT-R? __________________

11-06-2013, 01:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Alstann Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 882 Drives: 12 PW 370z 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	Sounds like master cylinder failure. Bleeding it helps temporarily, but once the seal goes, it goes and it's all downhill from there. Aftermarket for the win! __________________ 2012 Pearl White 370Z GReddy Twin Turbo

11-08-2013, 07:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Glambutang Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New York Posts: 86 Drives: Honda, im a ricer Rep Power: 12	So as expected bleeding helped for a day. Now pedal soft/ on the floor. What are my options here at this point? Dealer has no idea what to do, both clutch and master cylinder are month old, and there are no leaks. They handed me my keys and told me to F**k off in a polite manner. So im standing at the point where clutch doesn't work and nobody tells me what i can do. You guys are my last option. Thank you!

11-08-2013, 07:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Z-Girl 12 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 4,105 Drives: Spirited Rep Power: 11716	Trade it __________________ 2012 Z-SOLD 2014 Nismo #565 Fast Intentions CBE/HFC/Swift/SPC/RJM/H&R-15/20mm/Z1 CAI/Headers/Intake Manifold w/Uprev Tune 328.31whp/263.64tq

11-08-2013, 07:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Aftermarket master and CSC and a different shop? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-08-2013, 08:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Why put in another OEM master cylinder? It'll just fail again. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-08-2013, 08:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	There's an aftermarket CSC in the kit you posted so you're good there, but they also give you a OEM master. Talk to Alstann (?) about a better master. Do you need a new clutch and flywheel, or are you replacing it simply because the transmission will be out and it cuts down on labor costs? Alstann likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-08-2013, 08:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Not a bad plan. Two things. One, be prepared for a lot of noise from the flywheel. It's not broken, that's just the noise a light flywheel makes. Two, that's a stout clutch and it's way overkill for anything but a big turbo setup. Glambutang likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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