Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Engine & Drivetrain (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/)
-   -   In comparison to HR 350z Dynos (http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivetrain/81211-comparison-hr-350z-dynos.html)

Muney2bMade 10-27-2013 03:22 PM

In comparison to HR 350z Dynos
 
Compared to the rating HR 350z's put out decent power to the wheels


Why am I not seeing good numbers vs the rating on the 370zs?

Still seeing 265-280 range with an increase of almost 30 hp on the rating, but the whp stayed the same?

Could be wrong, but most of the Dyno results I've seen haven't been impressive.

Buying a Z soon and not sure if I should pay a lot more for a 370 or just get a 350 with minor mods and pull 370s

1slow370 10-27-2013 04:43 PM

well there is quite a lot of difference between the two but i just googled 350z hr dyno and it brought me to my350 and after reading 10 or 12 guys post up their stock power locks like the HR puts down 245-260 stock. But thats not the only reason to want to get a 370 over the 350, It's much stiffer, there isn't an annoying *** bar running through the middle of the trunk, it's lighter, the interior is MUCH better, it takes less work to fit bigger wheels and tires, and theres a lot more.

Tadpole 10-27-2013 05:02 PM

I owned a 350 and went to the 370 with no regrets. I ran a 13.3 bone stock quarter mile with the 7AT. I dont think the 350Z's can do that.

Muney2bMade 10-27-2013 05:07 PM

stock nissan 350z hr dyno baseline - YouTube

2007 Nissan 350z Dyno Stock VQ35HR - YouTube

2008 Nissan 350Z Dyno STOCK - YouTube

Danny's 2008 Nissan 350Z dyno run - YouTube


just a few off the first 2 pages of youtube. all putting down 265+

theres really none i can find that say 'bone stock' and say less then 265.

nissan 370z Baseline run bone stock - YouTube (253+ 12%)

2009 Stock Nissan 370z Dyno Day - YouTube ~270ish

370Z stock baseline dyno 1 - YouTube (says 294 on a dyno jet)


i guess now that i look into it they put down about 20+ or so more whp....

but youtube videos are kind of all over the place when it actually comes down to the details.

Of course though the 370 is much nicer in a lot of ways

theDreamer 10-28-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muney2bMade (Post 2543535)
stock nissan 350z hr dyno baseline - YouTube

2007 Nissan 350z Dyno Stock VQ35HR - YouTube

2008 Nissan 350Z Dyno STOCK - YouTube

Danny's 2008 Nissan 350Z dyno run - YouTube


just a few off the first 2 pages of youtube. all putting down 265+

theres really none i can find that say 'bone stock' and say less then 265.

nissan 370z Baseline run bone stock - YouTube (253+ 12%)

2009 Stock Nissan 370z Dyno Day - YouTube ~270ish

370Z stock baseline dyno 1 - YouTube (says 294 on a dyno jet)


i guess now that i look into it they put down about 20+ or so more whp....

but youtube videos are kind of all over the place when it actually comes down to the details.

Of course though the 370 is much nicer in a lot of ways

Welcome to the world of dynos, each one will read different, plus once you factor in altitude, temperature, etc you will be all over the place. Really a dyno is a tuning tool, not a measurement of power or performance.

On to your initial question, does the 370 put down more power? Yes, a bit more, but at the same time it also loses a little low end TQ that the 350z era had so it lost a little of that low end pull.

Alstann 10-28-2013 08:00 AM

Real comparisons can be made on the street/track, imho.

Lets just say I've never had an issue mopping up any N/A bolt-on/tuned 350z down the track or elsewhere. And I've only got exhaust work for bolt-ons. :tup:

andre12031948 10-28-2013 08:31 AM

the 370 has more H.P & potensials BUT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2544101)
Real comparisons can be made on the street/track, imho.

Lets just say I've never had an issue mopping up any N/A bolt-on/tuned 350z down the track or elsewhere. And I've only got exhaust work for bolt-ons. :tup:

In my 3 years of drag racing in the north east, I've never ran into a 370 that broke 13 seconds. Not even at an only Nissan meet. I've seen a couple of quick 370's in Florida.

What is your car's avg. drag time? The 350's you beat, were they DE's or HR's?

Mopping up 350's :) If they were DE's, it's like beating an Altima.

Your times????

andre12031948 10-28-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 2543530)
I owned a 350 and went to the 370 with no regrets. I ran a 13.3 bone stock quarter mile with the 7AT. I dont think the 350Z's can do that.

That's why I'm considering an automatic 370.

Alstann 10-28-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544113)
In my 3 years of drag racing in the north east, I've never ran into a 370 that broke 13 seconds. Not even at an only Nissan meet. I've seen a couple of quick 370's in Florida.

What is your car's avg. drag time? The 350's you beat, were they DE's or HR's?

Mopping up 350's :) If they were DE's, it's like beating an Altima.

Your times????

First night ever with my Z at the track, I clipped a mid 13 second run, bone stock. When I get home later, I'll post my time slips, I save all of them. :driving: My buddy tranceformer has crazy good times under his belt. I would say a low 13 or even 13 flat is doable with a skilled driver with lots of seat time. Check out the drag times thread on the forum.

And the 350zs were both DE and HR. HR is a much closer match, but I still did alright. For reference, I dynoed 305whp with HFC/Exhaust.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 11:06 AM

small world
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2544209)
First night ever with my Z at the track, I clipped a mid 13 second run, bone stock. When I get home later, I'll post my time slips, I save all of them. :driving: My buddy tranceformer has crazy good times under his belt. I would say a low 13 or even 13 flat is doable with a skilled driver with lots of seat time. Check out the drag times thread on the forum.

And the 350zs were both DE and HR. HR is a much closer match, but I still did alright. For reference, I dynoed 305whp with HFC/Exhaust.

I was there when Ray & Jason did their best times. That's where & how I noticed that the 370z had more power & potentials.

Still, beside those two, I so far have not seen a SINGLE 370 in my neck of the woods break 13 seconds. We have a ton of 370's in the N. East!!! You pick the reason why.

"I clipped a mid 13 second run, bone stock". That's excellent, but you still couldn't touch 12.9 to low 13's HR 350's w bolt ons. that I ran across on the track

You have more to work with than they did, so let's see some mid 12's from you, then brag how you "mopped up" all the 350z's.

FIRST time I took my 08 350z to the track was in Florida/same track. I did put on m/t street radials that were better than stock but still could not hold my car from spinning them. 2 months after getting the car, bone stock but for the tires, I did ALL my runs between 13.2 & 13.5. with my best being 13.195.

So, take it easy :) Got to go now!

7419sundat 10-28-2013 01:19 PM

Go troll elsewhere 350's suck balls.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 01:31 PM

redline 06 from Florida & a member here(I think)
 
In the spring of this year, a guy from Florida (redline 06) took a 08 350 with 129k miles on it & turned a number of 12's & a low of 12.823 & that time is posted in the 07/08 bolt on section of the my350z.com top 25 list. Not bad for a worn out engine :)

Since I don't know what kind of new Z is coming our way, I may get a used low mileage 2012 370 automatic. As much as I love manual trans & find it easy to produce great times with it, I'm getting to old & tired driving 3 hours each way then changing all four tires/wheels twice. That adds up to 16 tire changing:)
I may just put M/T street radials on an automatic 370z, just drive to car to the track & do NOTHING except have coffee before drag racing.

It won't be as quick as my 350z, but if I add 2 more mods, I'll be able to do 12.7's 12.8's without a problem. It will be a better car for bracket racing than my faster 6spd. manual.

NickTurnon 10-28-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muney2bMade (Post 2543444)
Compared to the rating HR 350z's put out decent power to the wheels

Why am I not seeing good numbers vs the rating on the 370zs?

Still seeing 265-280 range with an increase of almost 30 hp on the rating, but the whp stayed the same?

Could be wrong, but most of the Dyno results I've seen haven't been impressive.

Buying a Z soon and not sure if I should pay a lot more for a 370 or just get a 350 with minor mods and pull 370s

My car was such a disappointment on the dyno. Put down 256/222tq. Thats less then some of the stock HR's that I have seen.

That being said, I also ran a 13.2 in the 1/4 almost completely stock, and out run every HR that I come across.

Here is my baseline dyno for comparison (7AT):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IrZ1sjFg38

andre12031948 10-28-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTurnon (Post 2544482)
My car was such a disappointment on the dyno. Put down 256/222tq. Thats less then some of the stock HR's that I have seen.

That being said, I also ran a 13.2 in the 1/4 almost completely stock, and out run every HR that I come across.

Here is my baseline dyno for comparison (7AT):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IrZ1sjFg38

That's ^^^^ why I'm seriously considering a 2012 370 automatic. 13.2 no wonder. No stock HR's can beat that time. Maybe even 370's can't do that.

A 350z with some mods & a good driver (because they are all manual transmissions at the track) can beat you. Like I said, there would be only a few 350's & only a few 370's. I saw in person only 2 370's in the 12's and that was long ago:)

TerribleONE 10-28-2013 02:44 PM

:wtf2: :facepalm:

andre12031948 10-28-2013 02:50 PM

Just checked your stock top car list
 
You have a bunch of stock cars @ 13 seconds or close to it. All but one are automatic. If my financial situation don't go bust:) I'll be getting a 2012 370z automatic :) next month(Nov.)

TerribleONE 10-28-2013 03:16 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Sorry I had to..

bacalhau1669 10-28-2013 03:34 PM

I can't believe the hatred/homerism with HR 350z owners. The 370z is night and day to a 350z. Someone can like a 350z more and thats all fine and well, but denying a 370z its potential stock and once modified is ridiculous. Such an annoying topic to still have.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 04:27 PM

and who is doing that???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bacalhau1669 (Post 2544641)
I can't believe the hatred/homerism with HR 350z owners. The 370z is night and day to a 350z. Someone can like a 350z more and thats all fine and well, but denying a 370z its potential stock and once modified is ridiculous. Such an annoying topic to still have.

If you are implying that it's me, then you haven't read my posts.

So why am I shopping for a 2012 370z????

andre12031948 10-28-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2544618)
Sorry I had to..

:confused: funny, but have you read my posts?

MJB 10-28-2013 04:42 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2544618)
Sorry I had to..

Lol

andre12031948 10-28-2013 05:00 PM

I'm not comfertable saying I'm the best Z drag racer (MT) in the country
 
So I'll say that if there are 3 of the best 6spd. 1/4 mile drivers, I would be one of the 3....:p

I say this not because I'm upset, just that it might be a good answer to some of the posters.

MJB 10-28-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544760)
So I'll say that if there are 3 of the best 6spd. 1/4 mile drivers, I would be one of the 3....:p

Man, you really are in love with yourself aren't you? Lol. Ok we got it, you are a good 1/4mile driver. I think I've read a hundred posts from you bragging about your times.. But that doesn't mean the 370z doesn't outperform the 350hr stock for stock. Maybe all these 370z owners you encounter at the track just aren't very good drivers. We've had several members here in the 12's, N/A. I know one guy who is an active member that is down in the low 12's, granted he has 4.08 fd but still. Moral of the story, the 370z is faster than the 350z. Wasn't that the original question, and is the performance difference worth it to go with the 370? Case closed, and have a wonderful day.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 05:17 PM

I agree
 
Have you guys not read my post here^^^^^^ saying that the 370 has more H.P & potentials than the 350???? Also that I'm shopping for a 370 next month.

TerribleONE 10-28-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544771)
Have you guys not read my post here^^^^^^ saying that the 370 has more H.P & potentials than the 350???? Also that I'm shopping for a 370 next month.

You say your shopping for one.. but then go on to say how you have yet to see any 370s break into the 12s... If you are so concerned about drag times go buy a pony car

andre12031948 10-28-2013 05:22 PM

didn't I also point out
 
that on your list, stock 370's automatics are doing 13 second & a bunch close to that time. That's amazing & one reason why I might get an automatic.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2544772)
You say your shopping for one.. but then go on to say how you have yet to see any 370s break into the 12s... If you are so concerned about drag times go buy a pony car

I wish I could understand what you said. :confused:

andre12031948 10-28-2013 05:33 PM

n/a class only
 
I said I've seen 2 Z's in Florida get into the 12's. In the north east, I never saw in person one 370z break into the 12's. That includes the 2012 Atco NISSAN only meet. What do you want from me??? Talk to the 370Z guys up north :)

That was tranceformer & your record holder Jason. I was there when they posted their best times. So for the 2nd. time, that's when I realized the 370 z had more H.P. & more potentials. O.K???

TerribleONE 10-28-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544113)
In my 3 years of drag racing in the north east, I've never ran into a 370 that broke 13 seconds. Not even at an only Nissan meet. I've seen a couple of quick 370's in Florida.

What is your car's avg. drag time? The 350's you beat, were they DE's or HR's?

Mopping up 350's :) If they were DE's, it's like beating an Altima.

Your times????



Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544114)
That's why I'm considering an automatic 370.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544268)
I was there when Ray & Jason did their best times. That's where & how I noticed that the 370z had more power & potentials.

Still, beside those two, I so far have not seen a SINGLE 370 in my neck of the woods break 13 seconds. We have a ton of 370's in the N. East!!! You pick the reason why.

"I clipped a mid 13 second run, bone stock". That's excellent, but you still couldn't touch 12.9 to low 13's HR 350's w bolt ons. that I ran across on the track

You have more to work with than they did, so let's see some mid 12's from you, then brag how you "mopped up" all the 350z's.

FIRST time I took my 08 350z to the track was in Florida/same track. I did put on m/t street radials that were better than stock but still could not hold my car from spinning them. 2 months after getting the car, bone stock but for the tires, I did ALL my runs between 13.2 & 13.5. with my best being 13.195.

So, take it easy :) Got to go now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544443)
In the spring of this year, a guy from Florida (redline 06) took a 08 350 with 129k miles on it & turned a number of 12's & a low of 12.823 & that time is posted in the 07/08 bolt on section of the my350z.com top 25 list. Not bad for a worn out engine :)

Since I don't know what kind of new Z is coming our way, I may get a used low mileage 2012 370 automatic. As much as I love manual trans & find it easy to produce great times with it, I'm getting to old & tired driving 3 hours each way then changing all four tires/wheels twice. That adds up to 16 tire changing:)
I may just put M/T street radials on an automatic 370z, just drive to car to the track & do NOTHING except have coffee before drag racing.

It won't be as quick as my 350z, but if I add 2 more mods, I'll be able to do 12.7's 12.8's without a problem. It will be a better car for bracket racing than my faster 6spd. manual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544778)
I wish I could understand what you said. :confused:

If you are so convinced that your 350 is faster, why would you switch? Are you that into bracket racing? Also.. just because you havent seen it with your own eyes, doesnt mean that these cars wont run high 12's with the right driver and good conditions.

MJB 10-28-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2544787)
I said I've seen 2 Z's in Florida get into the 12's. In the north east, I never saw in person one 370z break into the 12's. That includes the 2012 Atco NISSAN only meet. What do you want from me??? Talk to the 370Z guys up north :)

That was tranceformer & your record holder Jason. I was there when they posted their best times. So for the 2nd. time, that's when I realized the 370 z had more H.P. & more potentials. O.K???

I'm just curious, because I've heard you claim several times that you are going to upgrade to the 370, but what made you change your mind?- http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...time-ever.html


Sounds like you should just stay with your beloved HR- http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ed-zs-12s.html

Mandingo 10-28-2013 06:32 PM

I think cars are pretty cool. How about you guys?

TerribleONE 10-28-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandingo (Post 2544868)
I think cars are pretty cool. How about you guys?

They are alright.

/Angelo350Z/ 10-28-2013 07:29 PM

Being an '08 350Z owner, I can attest that the VQ35HR beats all.

Wait, wrong forum :ugh2:.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 07:32 PM

I apologize to those tha heard this many time before
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2544825)
If you are so convinced that your 350 is faster, why would you switch? Are you that into bracket racing? Also.. just because you havent seen it with your own eyes, doesnt mean that these cars wont run high 12's with the right driver and good conditions.

but I need to answer this fellow.

For over 3&1/2 years & maybe 7 times I broke my 1/4 mile time that is listed on my350z.com. The bolt on 07/08 hr section. I've done it with Niss. STOCK intakes & except for test pipes, STOCK Nissan exhaust, muffler & all.

This spring I replaced my 3:90 gears with 4:08's that I purchased from the 370 car & site. It was a complete diff. set up. Seems like they are the same for both cars. A Nissan dealer just took mine out & installed the 370's in.
After my gear change, I went twice to the drag strip this spring hoping to break my last record time of 12.508@110mph. Well in those 2 times at the track, I got in about 13 runs. 10 of them were 12.4's, with my best of 12.419.

So it isn't what I think, feel or dream off. I've drag raced at the two top tracks up here(north east), Atco & Raceway Park, plus 2 other drag strips. 4 tracks in 3&1/2 years. The ONLY N/A 370's I saw do 12's were the two in Florida. There is no one from North East that has a 370 posting here that I'm mistaken. There might be a couple of cars that do & did that, but I don't know them & haven't seen them.

I no longer have my 350z(long story & not important for my points) so looking at the great times of the automatic 370's & me becoming 65 years old in Dec. plus living 3 hours away from the track & NEEDING slicks to drive a 6spd. car, I decided that I no longer want to drive 3 hours each way & change all four tires twice just to enjoy a day of racing. So I figure that since we don't yet know what 2015 brings, & I don't like to buy the first year of a new car, why not buy a 2012 370 automatic & add similar 2 mods that my 350z had. That should put me in the 12.8 range with stock intakes & exhaust minus cats. With M/T street tires I can just drive to track, no tire change, just coffee & go racing. I've done well in bracket racing & with an automatic that will be much easier to do. Makes sense??? When a good Z comes out in the future & I'm still alive, maybe I'll buy one & go for that record :)

andre12031948 10-28-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2544836)
I'm just curious, because I've heard you claim several times that you are going to upgrade to the 370, but what made you change your mind?- http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...time-ever.html


Sounds like you should just stay with your beloved HR- http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ed-zs-12s.html

I stand by what I experienced when testing that 370z. I think 4:08 gears would be a must if I got a 6sp. My last post^^^^explains why I'm looking at the 370, AUTOMATIC :)

I also stand by my second post you posted....

andre12031948 10-28-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2544932)
Being an '08 350Z owner, I can attest that the VQ35HR beats all.

Wait, wrong forum :ugh2:.

You're fine :)

Just more older ricers.

1slow370 10-28-2013 08:49 PM

I'm saying there isn't a huge difference in straight line, but when the going gets twisty I owned the **** out of all my 350z buddies. The 370 looks like it has 100 more hp than the hr at corner exit. you come out so fast that the 350's just fall away. it's not unheard of for a 370 with some suspension tweaks and a great driver to be running gtr times at a road track.

mag_black 10-28-2013 09:15 PM

Haha, not this again. They're both Z's and we should be happy Z owners together. Now let's all sit in a circle and compliment the size of each other's penises.

andre12031948 10-28-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2545103)
Haha, not this again. They're both Z's and we should be happy Z owners together. Now let's all sit in a circle and compliment the size of each other's penises.

:eek: :icon14: :superghey:

SS_Firehawk 10-28-2013 09:42 PM

Auto Z's do best with a 3.69 from the 6mt. Best of both worlds. The autos are faster btw.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:53 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2