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Running4Mayor 11-04-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfikt (Post 2538528)
OK, so just heard from the shop again... They said they have checked everything, and ran every test they can. The car is hit or miss on if it will start or not. If it doesn't, unplug the crank sensor and it starts up then you can plug it right back in and be on your way... They told me normally cars won't even start if that sensor is unplugged. He suggested that the computer possibly has a tune on it that is messed up, or the whole computer is just bad.

Any suggestions?

Pretty crappy turn of events... What's the status on your car now??

Cbtech 11-04-2013 05:48 PM

should be able to check the maps within the ECU to see if there is a non-native map in there. tow it to a dealer or a tuner that knows Nissan well.

Perfikt 11-06-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Running4Mayor (Post 2554385)
Pretty crappy turn of events... What's the status on your car now??

a little more info here

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2555104)
should be able to check the maps within the ECU to see if there is a non-native map in there. tow it to a dealer or a tuner that knows Nissan well.

No need to tow it, figured out how to make it start, run, and drive (most of the time in limp mode) every single time I hit the start button... I have brought it to 2 Nissan dealerships, they see the lambo doors, and full exhaust on it, and won't even plug a code reader into the obd port. Nissan dealerships refuse to touch it with mods apparently.

I have plugged the crank sensor back in, and I can get it to start every try by unplugging the passenger side cam sensor. If I unplug only the driver side, won't start. Unplug only the crank sensor, starts 2nd try every time. Unplug the passenger cam sensor only, and it fires up first shot but is a little hesitant. Me and my brother have figured out that you can start the car with all 3 sensors plugged in if we unscrew the passenger side cam sensor, and rotate it clockwise about 15-20 degrees.

So we bring it back to the mechanic that originally changed the crank sensor, since they are the only ones around here that will touch it. Showed them what we found, and they said they don't think its a timing problem, but they keep the car and check it out some more. Called me couple days later and said that the driver side intake cam is 10 degrees off timing compared to pasenger side. So they said they feel like correcting that would solve my problem...

So today I get a call and the voice mail said they have very good news for me... They had originally quoted me $1700 to retime that cam. The 'good news' they had for me was they had found some debris in the oil pickup tube, so they didn't have to retime the motor after all... How a stopped up oil tube means that the motor is no longer out of time is beyond me, but we will see if that magically fixes the problem or not. All I know is if they replace the oil tube and it still don't run right and they try to charge me $1700 on top of the oil tube job they are doing now, I'm gonna go ballistic on them...

mmendez 11-08-2013 07:20 PM

Dam!

Perfikt 11-16-2013 08:56 PM

a little bit of an update, the oil tube job didnt fix it (im not surprised at all) and they are doing the cam job now. but, the "good" news is im getting the oil tube job and cam job done for the price they quoted me for the cam job

1slow370 11-19-2013 07:49 PM

I know whats wrong with it probably. I had the same issue and 3 times of the dealer replacing the cam sprockets later they found what it was. There are several screen filters in the engine that are probably pluged with debris so the cam timing isn't responding as it should and the ecu is throwing a position error because of it. You most likely have a lunched bearing.

Perfikt 11-21-2013 02:15 PM

FINALLY got the car back about a hour ago. its running great.

apparently some time in the cars life, the belt shredded, wrapped around the crank/crank pulley, and worked itself through the front main seal, and into the oil pan. whoever fixed it, never pulled the oil pan, just the front cover. so there was alot of belt shreds in the oil pickup tube. So i have a new oil tube now.

after fixing the oil feeding issue, timing was still off, they replaced the cam phaser/sprocket, problem solved...

DEpointfive0 11-21-2013 04:10 PM

Sounds a bit bullshít to me, but I'll let it slide since the car is running

1slow370 11-21-2013 04:49 PM

if it happens again you're in for a full teardown to replace whats broken and change the screen filters and clean out the oil gallery.

bombdefuzer 11-22-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2578097)
Sounds a bit bullshít to me, but I'll let it slide since the car is running

:bowrofl:

Chuck33079 11-22-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2578097)
Sounds a bit bullshít to me, but I'll let it slide since the car is running

:iagree:

OP, next time you change the oil send it out to Blackstone Labs and see what kind of shape that motor is in internally.

Mandingo 11-22-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfikt (Post 2577901)
FINALLY got the car back about a hour ago. its running great.

apparently some time in the cars life, the belt shredded, wrapped around the crank/crank pulley, and worked itself through the front main seal, and into the oil pan. whoever fixed it, never pulled the oil pan, just the front cover. so there was alot of belt shreds in the oil pickup tube. So i have a new oil tube now.

after fixing the oil feeding issue, timing was still off, they replaced the cam phaser/sprocket, problem solved...

That doesn't make sense to me physically. I've heard of belt shreds working through the main seal, but they would be very small and wouldn't be stopped until they hit the oil filter right? The oil pickup tube is relatively large. Anyways, I really hope they aren't d*cking you around.

1slow370 11-22-2013 02:02 PM

there is a screen in the pickup tube, better yet if oil flow to the engine was restricted so much that the cam timing was thrown off how much was going to the bearings, sorry dude but I think you might want to flip that car if you have no warranty, that or be prepared to buy a new motor for it.

DEpointfive0 11-22-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2579840)
there is a screen in the pickup tube, better yet if oil flow to the engine was restricted so much that the cam timing was thrown off how much was going to the bearings, sorry dude but I think you might want to flip that car if you have no warranty, that or be prepared to buy a new motor for it.

I agree. Sell it get another... Sorry...

NS370Z 11-22-2013 04:52 PM

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Just joking.:tup:

This is why I prefer to buy new.


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