Fuel starvation fix...possibly. Suggestions?

synolimit · 10-03-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

and like i said the tank is semi magentic so the pul strength of the magnet could be only half of its actual strength.

I think you're wrong. Its galvanized steel. I just used my very small tool/bolt pic up magnet on the out side of the tank. Even with the black coating it has an extremely strong pull to get it to break loose.

luigi90210 · 10-03-2013, 04:20 PM

Isn't there a baffled tank you can buy?

I heard from a friend that there was a fix but it costs like $1400

synolimit · 10-03-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

Isn't there a baffled tank you can buy?

I heard from a friend that there was a fix but it costs like $1400

You can buy blue prints for one.

Doesn't everyone want a $20 easy fix within 20 minutes!?? Jesus.

luigi90210 · 10-03-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

You can buy blue prints for one.

Doesn't everyone want a $20 easy fix within 20 minutes!?? Jesus.

No need to snap bro, I was just saying I thought there was a baffled fuel tank you can buy.

Its pretty steep as well and unless you track your car all the time, it isn't worth it imo

1slow370 · 10-03-2013, 04:48 PM

i'm just trying to point out somethings to help you out man chill, when the fuel sloshes back against it is there anyting to keep it from pushing the hinge back across the top of the tank like a baffle you can rest it against or something so that when the fuel sloshes back it doesn't just push the baffle down? the less force the magnet needs to have the cheaper it is, it's going to have to be a neodymium though so the fuel doesn't melt it.

synolimit · 10-03-2013, 04:58 PM

Lol I'm fine.

I don't think there would be anything to stop it. It is at an angle so it's not like fuel can hit it head on pushing with more force. I had 2 magnets planned but hell with 4 I don't think you'd get fuel to slide them very easy. What do you mean push it down? I don't think anything could break the connection but I could see with a weak magnet the door getting slide maybe to the drivers side when turning right.

1slow370 · 10-03-2013, 05:13 PM

exactly its on an angle so when you turn right as the fuel sloshes against it the angle will turn the sideways force of the fuel into downward force pulling against the magnets. if you could make it so the top had a positive stop you could make the magnets easier, so when you go to put it in the tank you don't have to fight it trying to get it into place. if you have a postive stop or to use your analogy a door jam, on the top and bottom then the magnets only have to hold the weight of the moving door and your idea is easier to work with.

synolimit · 10-03-2013, 05:52 PM

I kinda see what you're saying but just don't think its enough. I don't think fuel will be that high on the tank to apply force. Like half way down you may have 5 gallons above pushing with 30lbs. But up top you may have 1 gallon with 6lbs of force. Two of these have over 60lbs of strength. I might do 4 for over 120lbs. There just to strong for a liquid force I think. 4 are $28. I'll just buy them now and play around.

Rusty · 10-03-2013, 10:45 PM

Nice idea. Now next question. How wide is it? Because it would have to fit through a hole about 4.5" in diameter. It would be easier to go through the hole on the drivers side. Just unplug the sending unit on top and remove the sending unit. On the fuel pump side. You have fuel hoses that you have to unplug inside the tank. If you got big mitts. It's hard. Belieive me.

synolimit · 10-03-2013, 11:03 PM

Hey whatever side works. You're going to need long arms though to stick it to the passenger side on the other side of the hump through coming from the drivers side. If one piece is to big I was thinking about 2 pieces maybe and just bolting it together in the tank.

1slow370 · 10-04-2013, 02:08 AM

the hole is 4.375"

synolimit · 10-04-2013, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

the hole is 4.375"

Phunk needs to measure the tank now top to the top of saddle

10-03-2013, 04:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
luigi90210 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,103 Drives: Classified Rep Power: 15	Isn't there a baffled tank you can buy? I heard from a friend that there was a fix but it costs like $1400 __________________ SOLD 370z New Car:classified DD:2011 Mini Cooper S stock

10-03-2013, 04:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	i'm just trying to point out somethings to help you out man chill, when the fuel sloshes back against it is there anyting to keep it from pushing the hinge back across the top of the tank like a baffle you can rest it against or something so that when the fuel sloshes back it doesn't just push the baffle down? the less force the magnet needs to have the cheaper it is, it's going to have to be a neodymium though so the fuel doesn't melt it. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-03-2013, 04:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Lol I'm fine. I don't think there would be anything to stop it. It is at an angle so it's not like fuel can hit it head on pushing with more force. I had 2 magnets planned but hell with 4 I don't think you'd get fuel to slide them very easy. What do you mean push it down? I don't think anything could break the connection but I could see with a weak magnet the door getting slide maybe to the drivers side when turning right. __________________ 13 370z-

10-03-2013, 05:13 PM	#22 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	exactly its on an angle so when you turn right as the fuel sloshes against it the angle will turn the sideways force of the fuel into downward force pulling against the magnets. if you could make it so the top had a positive stop you could make the magnets easier, so when you go to put it in the tank you don't have to fight it trying to get it into place. if you have a postive stop or to use your analogy a door jam, on the top and bottom then the magnets only have to hold the weight of the moving door and your idea is easier to work with. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-03-2013, 05:52 PM	#23 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	I kinda see what you're saying but just don't think its enough. I don't think fuel will be that high on the tank to apply force. Like half way down you may have 5 gallons above pushing with 30lbs. But up top you may have 1 gallon with 6lbs of force. Two of these have over 60lbs of strength. I might do 4 for over 120lbs. There just to strong for a liquid force I think. 4 are $28. I'll just buy them now and play around. __________________ 13 370z-

10-03-2013, 10:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,181 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Nice idea. Now next question. How wide is it? Because it would have to fit through a hole about 4.5" in diameter. It would be easier to go through the hole on the drivers side. Just unplug the sending unit on top and remove the sending unit. On the fuel pump side. You have fuel hoses that you have to unplug inside the tank. If you got big mitts. It's hard. Belieive me. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-03-2013, 11:03 PM	#25 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Hey whatever side works. You're going to need long arms though to stick it to the passenger side on the other side of the hump through coming from the drivers side. If one piece is to big I was thinking about 2 pieces maybe and just bolting it together in the tank. __________________ 13 370z-

10-04-2013, 02:08 AM	#26 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	the hole is 4.375" __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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