Review of Mishimoto Thermostatic Oil Sandwich Plate

Chuck33079 · 03-03-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G

FML, peeps still buying Mishimoto! I give up, letem do it!

Pretty much. Eventually someone's going to lose a motor, and these assclowns are going to offer them a new sandwich plate o-ring.

O&G · 03-03-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Pretty much. Eventually someone's going to lose a motor, and these assclowns are going to offer them a new sandwich plate o-ring.

Already seen a subie motor blow because of their crappy orings on their thermostats. Whatever, let the sheep graze!

derraj06 · 03-04-2014, 10:10 PM

I have read other reports of o-ring failures since my incident.

On the note about a motor, I've been monitoring mine via blackstone labs. I have a pre incident sample and an post sample already processed. It's due for a second oil change this weekend. Once I have that report, I'm gonna post them here. So far blackstone indicates no out of the ordinary metals. I'm monitoring the sodium levels as they got a bit high. This might have been something in the oil cooler or lines but I'm reserving judgement until the next sample.

1slow370 · 03-04-2014, 10:32 PM

probably salt water in the lines from them being shipped from china haha

Plasmite · 05-04-2014, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mishimoto

370Z Community:

I felt compelled to respond to this thread after reading through in detail. Every attempt was made to address the situation. We have been communicating with the community in a transparent manner to address this situation. Clearly we take our customer's satisfaction and our brand image very seriously. We pulled all of the inventory and inspected as well as ran internal leak tests. We did in fact bring an O ring expert from Parker company in to provide additional feedback. We have changed O Ring suppliers and are using this company moving forward. We swapped out all of the current O Rings with the new O Ring part as a precautionary measure. We have also implemented new torquing specs in our quality control process, although is should be noted that the inventory inspected was properly torqued. It should also be noted that this is a sole incident and we have not had any other reported issues.

While members like Chuck continue to troll this forum to try to get a rise, we hope that other members will read this and realize the extent the company has gone through to address and solve the issue. The part is a fantastic part. It was well engineered and it works great. This was an unfortunate incident and it has been addressed. Manufacturing is not perfect. Things happen - regardless of the level of quality control or where the part is made.

On a side note - Did you know the Challenger shuttle explosion stemmed from a faulty O-Ring?

CHALLENGER EXPLOSION

We manage 1,400 SKUs over dozens of makes and models and have produced hundreds of thousands of parts. Its only natural that something will go wrong at some point. While Chuck may chime in and say that we are only addressing this because it is on a forum - I call BS. The forums are a great tool to communicate with our consumers, whether good or bad. This should have been addressed prior, as 99% of issues are, during the initial phone call. This has been addressed internally. If we didn't offer great support 99% of the time, you would be hearing much more negativity from consumers. We wouldn't be able to offer a lifetime warranty on our parts if we weren't confident of the quality. The company has 40+ employees and four locations in three countries. We're in it for the long run - not to make one-time sales to customers. We frankly cannot afford to lose the trust in our consumers, which is why we go to the extent we do.
Regarding the service that Derraj06 has experienced.. Again - We have pulled our CSRs aside and have addressed the issue. We will be reaching out to provide you with a complimentary product or gift certificate to the website to accommodate you for your unfortunate experience. This should have been done sooner, and I apologize for that.

Best Regards,

Mike Sullivan
President
Mishimoto

Are you seriously trying to tie a tragedy to this to prove a point?

Mishimoto, I have never bought any of your products, and now I never will. And anyone who asks about your products, I will recommend them to stay far, far away and use this post as an example..

Disgraceful, at best.

evensen007 · 05-04-2014, 10:16 PM

I think the hardest pill to swallow, is that they offered him a gift card and not even an offer to cover his Black-Stone oil sample reviews. If they really wanted to right this wrong like Mike said, they would have covered all costs no questions asked. Christ, they admitted the OP had a faulty o-ring in the plate! What if his engine would have blown? A GIFT CARD!?

O&G · 05-05-2014, 10:14 AM

I will never let anyone I care about use Mishimoto products after seeing their thermostat fail on a good friends motor, causing it to blow. He sold the car and retired from the modding scene. I also had their thermostat fail, but I was more fortunate and didn't loose the motor. 
Mishimoto is on the left w/ 4k miles on it, Stock unit is on right w/ 6k miles on it........... as you can see the O-ring seal is already gone on the mishimoto while the stock unit looks fine. QUALITY matters.

Forums are here to inform, throw some truth at the readers! 

sent from my Note 3

hot_mic_64d · 05-16-2014, 02:03 PM

Wow just got done reading through this thread. I'm a Apache Maintenance test pilot at Fort Rucker AL. We had a helicopter crash about 7 months ago. Everybody was blaming bad hydraulic fluid (which is ******** because of the filtering process on the bird). Well turned out to be a bad Oring. Our control servo's are made by parker. Not talking **** because these same servo's and orings have been on these helo's for 20 plus years. This was the first incident with a oring failure on these servo's. **** happens, and while it did take them a while to replace to oring in the end they tried to make it right. I don't own any of their products.

Bboyyumm · 06-18-2014, 05:05 AM

Sooooo.. I just got my Z and I live in VERY hot Vegas.. I plan on doing track days soon and have been considering what radiator thermostat and oil cooler to go with. When I buy parts I tend to use all the same brand. (Suspension all Tein etc.) I was really considering a mishimoto complete cooling set up buuuuuuut after doing some research and finding this thread I think I will be going a different route. Any suggestions for a oil cooler, radiator, performance thermo, and intake/air filter set up? Affordable suggestions? lol..

and sorry about your experience bro...Cars cost way too much to be compensated with "gift cards" .. but thank you for this thread it helps save some of us the heart and wallet ache..

L33T Z34 · 06-18-2014, 02:16 PM

W0W! This thread is still kick'n. LOL! Fawk'n sH!++y-M0to...
Well for oil cooler I suggest the Nissan Motorsports one due to the CNC oil filter plate. It comes w/a nice C-trob oil cooler as well as big fat AN lines. It costs $$$ though....

Radiator any full AL one will due...so CSF is the only one avail presently? K0Y0 is late to the game...
Thermostat...I believe the OEM one to be fine. Unless u'r a track car...
Intake set-up...I have no Xperience/suggestion...since can't open source tune this platform as of present...

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-18-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bboyyumm

Sooooo.. I just got my Z and I live in VERY hot Vegas.. I plan on doing track days soon and have been considering what radiator thermostat and oil cooler to go with. When I buy parts I tend to use all the same brand. (Suspension all Tein etc.) I was really considering a mishimoto complete cooling set up buuuuuuut after doing some research and finding this thread I think I will be going a different route. Any suggestions for a oil cooler, radiator, performance thermo, and intake/air filter set up? Affordable suggestions? lol..

and sorry about your experience bro...Cars cost way too much to be compensated with "gift cards" .. but thank you for this thread it helps save some of us the heart and wallet ache..

Don't just commit to one mfg. unless its part of one system, clutch/flywheel or brakes for example.
Setrab/stillen oil cooler used by many, I have one.
CSF makes great radiators.
Stillen Gen3 CAI.
Best suggestion though is read an research a lot more then come back if your still not sure.

Rusty · 06-19-2014, 12:44 AM

I got the Z1 34 row oil cooler. The new 3 row CSF rad sdould be good addition. Try a vented hood if you still think the engine is still too hot. I also got the Stillen 3G CAI. Also upgrade your brake system if you are planning to track.

Bboyyumm · 06-19-2014, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Don't just commit to one mfg. unless its part of one system, clutch/flywheel or brakes for example.
Setrab/stillen oil cooler used by many, I have one.
CSF makes great radiators.
Stillen Gen3 CAI.
Best suggestion though is read an research a lot more then come back if your still not sure.

I have been looking into all of these.. Thanks fam.

Bboyyumm · 06-19-2014, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

I got the Z1 34 row oil cooler. The new 3 row CSF rad sdould be good addition. Try a vented hood if you still think the engine is still too hot. I also got the Stillen 3G CAI. Also upgrade your brake system if you are planning to track.

Optimiser · 06-19-2014, 08:45 AM

Do "Shitty Moto" get their take away from "Shitty Wok"?

03-04-2014, 10:32 PM	#94 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	probably salt water in the lines from them being shipped from china haha O&G and DEpointfive0 like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

05-04-2014, 10:16 PM	#96 (permalink)
evensen007 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sanford Posts: 150 Drives: defensively Rep Power: 11	I think the hardest pill to swallow, is that they offered him a gift card and not even an offer to cover his Black-Stone oil sample reviews. If they really wanted to right this wrong like Mike said, they would have covered all costs no questions asked. Christ, they admitted the OP had a faulty o-ring in the plate! What if his engine would have blown? A GIFT CARD!? cautupwitdm likes this.

05-05-2014, 10:14 AM	#97 (permalink)
O&G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lone Star State Age: 42 Posts: 1,212 Drives: 40th Anv. Rep Power: 22	I will never let anyone I care about use Mishimoto products after seeing their thermostat fail on a good friends motor, causing it to blow. He sold the car and retired from the modding scene. I also had their thermostat fail, but I was more fortunate and didn't loose the motor. <br /> Mishimoto is on the left w/ 4k miles on it, Stock unit is on right w/ 6k miles on it........... as you can see the O-ring seal is already gone on the mishimoto while the stock unit looks fine. QUALITY matters.<br /> <br /> <br /> Forums are here to inform, throw some truth at the readers!<br/> sent from my Note 3 __________________ O&G's Build/Journal <---(1st lowmount single turbo treeseventy) Built Engine Thread 2011 F-250 Build/Journal

05-16-2014, 02:03 PM	#98 (permalink)
hot_mic_64d Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Midland City, AL Posts: 31 Drives: 2013 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 11	Wow just got done reading through this thread. I'm a Apache Maintenance test pilot at Fort Rucker AL. We had a helicopter crash about 7 months ago. Everybody was blaming bad hydraulic fluid (which is ****** because of the filtering process on the bird). Well turned out to be a bad Oring. Our control servo's are made by parker. Not talking because these same servo's and orings have been on these helo's for 20 plus years. This was the first incident with a oring failure on these servo's. ** happens, and while it did take them a while to replace to oring in the end they tried to make it right. I don't own any of their products. __________________ 2013 Nismo: Litespeed Titanium long tube intake, Uprev tune, Beluga Racing Axel backs, Beluga resonated test pipes, Advant Garde 310's 275's front, 305's rear (no rubbing) (stock ride height).

06-19-2014, 12:44 AM	#102 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,172 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	I got the Z1 34 row oil cooler. The new 3 row CSF rad sdould be good addition. Try a vented hood if you still think the engine is still too hot. I also got the Stillen 3G CAI. Also upgrade your brake system if you are planning to track. Bboyyumm likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-04-2014, 10:10 PM	#93 (permalink)
derraj06 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 406 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 12	I have read other reports of o-ring failures since my incident. On the note about a motor, I've been monitoring mine via blackstone labs. I have a pre incident sample and an post sample already processed. It's due for a second oil change this weekend. Once I have that report, I'm gonna post them here. So far blackstone indicates no out of the ordinary metals. I'm monitoring the sodium levels as they got a bit high. This might have been something in the oil cooler or lines but I'm reserving judgement until the next sample.

06-18-2014, 05:05 AM	#99 (permalink)
Bboyyumm Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Vegas Posts: 8 Drives: 2011 Z34 Rep Power: 12	Sooooo.. I just got my Z and I live in VERY hot Vegas.. I plan on doing track days soon and have been considering what radiator thermostat and oil cooler to go with. When I buy parts I tend to use all the same brand. (Suspension all Tein etc.) I was really considering a mishimoto complete cooling set up buuuuuuut after doing some research and finding this thread I think I will be going a different route. Any suggestions for a oil cooler, radiator, performance thermo, and intake/air filter set up? Affordable suggestions? lol.. and sorry about your experience bro...Cars cost way too much to be compensated with "gift cards" .. but thank you for this thread it helps save some of us the heart and wallet ache..

06-18-2014, 02:16 PM	#100 (permalink)
L33T Z34 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ahnald, MO Age: 47 Posts: 387 Drives: 09 K51 G C Bw/S 6MT Rep Power: 0	W0W! This thread is still kick'n. LOL! Fawk'n sH!++y-M0to... Well for oil cooler I suggest the Nissan Motorsports one due to the CNC oil filter plate. It comes w/a nice C-trob oil cooler as well as big fat AN lines. It costs $$$ though.... Radiator any full AL one will due...so CSF is the only one avail presently? K0Y0 is late to the game... Thermostat...I believe the OEM one to be fine. Unless u'r a track car... Intake set-up...I have no Xperience/suggestion...since can't open source tune this platform as of present...

06-19-2014, 08:45 AM	#105 (permalink)
Optimiser Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 455 Drives: 2012 Nissan 370Z MT Rep Power: 20144	Do "Shitty Moto" get their take away from "Shitty Wok"?

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