Oil Temperatures ?

Verbal21 · 08-27-2013, 10:33 AM

So I plan on getting the 19 row Z1 cooler and was just wondering, is getting the Oil Sandwich Plate Adapter with thermostatic and protective house wrapping necessary?

Chuck33079 · 08-27-2013, 10:43 AM

You want the thermostatic sandwich plate.

Verbal21 · 08-27-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You want the thermostatic sandwich plate.

Cool, thanks. So I guess the house wrapping isn't absolutely necessary.

Chuck33079 · 08-27-2013, 10:49 AM

I don't have the Z1 kit, so I'm not sure what heat wrapping you're talking about. In general, heat shielding is never a bad idea.

Arrvaxx · 08-27-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal21

So I plan on getting the 19 row Z1 cooler and was just wondering, is getting the Oil Sandwich Plate Adapter with thermostatic and protective house wrapping necessary?

Especially in NJ if you drive in cool weather.

onzedge · 08-27-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You want the thermostatic sandwich plate.

True. With an oil cooler, you should also consider a block-off plate for winter driving. The plate covers most of the oil cooler itself and allows the oil temperatures to get up to normal operating ranges.

onzedge · 08-27-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

I know what you meant but others (yes, they are out there) may not.

Verbal21 · 08-27-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx

Especially in NJ if you drive in cool weather.

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Originally Posted by onzedge

True. With an oil cooler, you should also consider a block-off plate for winter driving. The plate covers most of the oil cooler itself and allows the oil temperatures to get up to normal operating ranges.

Very good points. Any recommendations on one compatible with the Z1 or are they universal?

SouthArk370Z · 08-27-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal21

Very good points. Any recommendations on one compatible with the Z1 or are they universal?

Some are easier to R&R but it's just a flat sheet of something (I've seen everything from posterboard to plywood to Aluminum to stainless steel used) to block the air flow across the cooler. Ie, whether or not you can mount/unmount it easily is the biggest concern. Being in NJ and using the plate a lot, you probably want something a bit more substantial than paper or wood - Aluminum works well and is lightweight. You should be able to find something designed to work with your setup - I'd try Z1 first - if not, just about any shop that does sheet metal work should be able to fab something up or, if you are a DIYer, all you need is a sheet of Al and a small saw.

onzedge · 08-27-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal21

Very good points. Any recommendations on one compatible with the Z1 or are they universal?

I fabricated my own with an aluminum sheet, tin snips and some Velcro.

Verbal21 · 08-27-2013, 11:38 AM

I'll definitely look into that. Thanks for the info, guys.

Rusty · 08-27-2013, 01:34 PM

Duct tape. Old racers trick. With duct tape you can easily add or remove the tape to get your temps where you want them.

Jamesb1 · 09-26-2013, 11:51 PM

I had the same problem. The Nissan dealer told me the car goes into safe mode at around 200+ degrees. There is no fix for this. It's built into the ECU. I had them install an oil cooler they recommended, $1100 dollars total. The car runs full power all the time now. The oil temp stays at around 180 in city traffic and around 160 on the hwy. This will also extend the life of your engine if you like to drive hard.

Chuck33079 · 09-27-2013, 07:56 AM

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I had the same problem. The Nissan dealer told me the car goes into safe mode at around 200+ degrees. There is no fix for this. It's built into the ECU. I had them install an oil cooler they recommended, $1100 dollars total. The car runs full power all the time now. The oil temp stays at around 180 in city traffic and around 160 on the hwy. This will also extend the life of your engine if you like to drive hard.

Safe mode is much higher than 200 degrees. Think about this- the oil needs to get higher than 212 degrees just to boil off any condensation. 200-220 is ok on this car. You'll see power loss from IATs, not oil temp. And you got boned on the oil cooler. First, you paid WAY too much for the unit and install, especially if it's the Nismo version without a thermostat. Labor was especially rapey. And if the oil is at 160 on the freeway, it's too cold. Cold oil is as bad as hot oil.

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-27-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamesb1

I had the same problem. The Nissan dealer told me the car goes into safe mode at around 200+ degrees. There is no fix for this. It's built into the ECU. I had them install an oil cooler they recommended, $1100 dollars total. The car runs full power all the time now. The oil temp stays at around 180 in city traffic and around 160 on the hwy. This will also extend the life of your engine if you like to drive hard.

A Nissan dealer told me convertibles are faster because they don't have a top.
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08-27-2013, 10:43 AM	#47 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	You want the thermostatic sandwich plate. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-27-2013, 10:49 AM	#49 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I don't have the Z1 kit, so I'm not sure what heat wrapping you're talking about. In general, heat shielding is never a bad idea. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,181 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Duct tape. Old racers trick. With duct tape you can easily add or remove the tape to get your temps where you want them. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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08-27-2013, 10:33 AM	#46 (permalink)
Verbal21 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 223 Drives: '12 Solid Red Rep Power: 13	So I plan on getting the 19 row Z1 cooler and was just wondering, is getting the Oil Sandwich Plate Adapter with thermostatic and protective house wrapping necessary?

08-27-2013, 11:38 AM	#56 (permalink)
Verbal21 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 223 Drives: '12 Solid Red Rep Power: 13	I'll definitely look into that. Thanks for the info, guys.

09-26-2013, 11:51 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jamesb1 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 11 Drives: Black 370z Rep Power: 12	I had the same problem. The Nissan dealer told me the car goes into safe mode at around 200+ degrees. There is no fix for this. It's built into the ECU. I had them install an oil cooler they recommended, $1100 dollars total. The car runs full power all the time now. The oil temp stays at around 180 in city traffic and around 160 on the hwy. This will also extend the life of your engine if you like to drive hard.