manual Swap

megalapagas · 07-31-2013, 01:58 PM

Hi guys, well as the tittle says I'm going to swap out my 7AT tranny but I've searched several forums and I've seen that ppl add fly wheels and was wondering if a "6 puck disk" is also recommended? *NOTE: I'm awaiting for the 18G mhi kit aswell*

Anyways, I'm going to purchase the Mt tranny from Z1 motorsports and buy that package deal they have for their Clutch & Flywheel combo only thing is i cant decide on the purchase option for "full face" or "6 puck disc". Im not too familiar with Mt tranny since ive had my 7AT for 3 yrs

but i want performance and i want to achieve the best that i can via 500-550whp.

Thanks and suggestions are more than welcome!

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:01 PM

Wow... You want to sell your car and buy a MT.

The cost of the swap is moronic. ECU, instrument cluster, extra things you gotta change, not sure if you thought about those too

dP3NGU1N · 07-31-2013, 02:07 PM

Isn't the auto tranny good up to 500whp or so? ISn't the auto tranny also faster? So what are you doing, really?

Unless you want to drift or something and actually want all the control a manual transmission provides AT will actually be faster around the track.

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

Isn't the auto tranny good up to 500whp or so? ISn't the auto tranny also faster? So what are you doing, really?

Unless you want to drift or something and actually want all the control a manual transmission provides AT will actually be faster around the track.

No one has REALLY tested it, or with upgraded valve bodies and with a tune to add pressure and with an oil cooler and such...
I wouldn't bet 500-500, but 450, maybe, but maybe with an upgraded flex plate and the other mods I mentioned, 500?

megalapagas · 07-31-2013, 02:12 PM

Back to the drawing board, luckily I hadn't bought it yet good thing I asked. Need to do more research, my purposes were for Tracking no drifting. Thanks

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megalapagas

Back to the drawing board, luckily I hadn't bought it yet good thing I asked. Need to do more research, my purposes were for Tracking no drifting. Thanks

Ask Megan370Z

He's the only person attempting a manual swap

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kmkraft12

I would say the auto is probably good up to 550. Nissan isn't stupid enough to over estimate a claim like that and get sued because of it.

What???

megalapagas · 07-31-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

No one has REALLY tested it, or with upgraded valve bodies and with a tune to add pressure and with an oil cooler and such...
I wouldn't bet 500-500, but 450, maybe, but maybe with an upgraded flex plate and the other mods I mentioned, 500?

Now that you mentioned this so internally upgrading my AT tranny meaning a flex plate, VB, and posibbly a torque converter can help my car reach 500? *of course with tune and coolers added of course* I ask because I wanted to havethe parts ready by when my mhi kit gets shipped to install everything together?

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megalapagas

Now that you mentioned this so internally upgrading my AT tranny meaning a flex plate, VB, and posibbly a torque converter can help my car reach 500? *of course with tune and coolers added of course* I ask because I wanted to havethe parts ready by when my mhi kit gets shipped to install everything together?

Yeah, I'd for sure see the VB, MAYBE the flex plate and torque converter. I'd almost rather wait for those to fail.

XwChriswX · 07-31-2013, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

Isn't the auto tranny good up to 500whp or so? ISn't the auto tranny also faster? So what are you doing, really?

Unless you want to drift or something and actually want all the control a manual transmission provides AT will actually be faster around the track.

Stock v Stock, sub-par driver, the Auto is .1 seconds faster on the strip, so change the driver, change the result.

It's not the power that kills the AT, its the Torque. Supposedly the 7AT can safely handle up to 400ft-lbs. After that its

area.

megalapagas · 07-31-2013, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Ask Megan370Z

He's the only person attempting a manual swap

Oh ok thanks DEpointfive0, ill shoot him a Pm and ask him sone questions then. I just thought Mt would be much easier and flexible then some obstacles with AT tranny, or so I think.

XwChriswX · 07-31-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Wow... You want to sell your car and buy a MT.

The cost of the swap is moronic. ECU, instrument cluster, extra things you gotta change, not sure if you thought about those too

This.

Moreso for the headache than the "ease".

We're not even discussing the differences in the Auto vs Manual rear diff. Different gearing, so you'd wanna think about that as well.

megalapagas · 07-31-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Yeah, I'd for sure see the VB, MAYBE the flex plate and torque converter. I'd almost rather wait for those to fail.

You have a point but I've had my car for about 3 years and trust me I've had my fair share of spirited driving wouldn't ir be advisable to change those part when going FI in the near future? Well for safety precausions though?

DEpointfive0 · 07-31-2013, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Stock v Stock, sub-par driver, the Auto is .1 seconds faster on the strip, so change the driver, change the result.

It's not the power that kills the AT, its the Torque. Supposedly the 7AT can safely handle up to 400ft-lbs. After that its

area.

The block can't take much more than 400-450 ft/lbs torque anyways without risking it blowing up anyways.

XwChriswX · 07-31-2013, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

The block can't take much more than 400-450 ft/lbs torque anyways without risking it blowing up anyways.

Exactly. A lot of work needs to be done to beef up certain areas for bigger power.

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07-31-2013, 02:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
megalapagas Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McAllen,TX Posts: 457 Drives: '10 370Z Tour A/T Rep Power: 12	Back to the drawing board, luckily I hadn't bought it yet good thing I asked. Need to do more research, my purposes were for Tracking no drifting. Thanks