25 row oil cooler question

mr gushe · 07-29-2013, 11:05 PM

I am planning on buying a 25 row oil cooler and I was wondering if this would effect the car in colder temps. I live in Lubbock, Texas and weather over there can be very unpredictable. It freezes over a few times in the winter. Would the oil cooler effect the car in these temps or not?

Chuck33079 · 07-29-2013, 11:14 PM

You may need to fashion some kind of block off plate for the core. Make sure whichever kit you buy has a thermostat in the sandwich plate.

Zoren 370 · 07-29-2013, 11:26 PM

Why do you need the oil cooler anyway? If you have no intension of tracking your Z then it's just a waste of resources to buy one.
For daily driver car no need for oil cooler. But if your purpose is for other staff like performance upgrades like supercharging and or twin turbo then above post would help in winter times.

Chuck33079 · 07-29-2013, 11:46 PM

Given how hot it gets in the summer in TX, a smaller oil cooler wouldn't be a bad idea.

blueranger · 07-29-2013, 11:51 PM

I have similar weather here in Albuquerque and I just installed (today) a 25 row oil cooler. I think it is totally worth it as I always saw 225-230 temps with just spirited driving.

These temps always made me back off so I decided it was best to do the cooler and not worry about the temps and just drive

DEpointfive0 · 07-29-2013, 11:52 PM

Do you garage the car?

synolimit · 07-30-2013, 12:11 AM

OP ever going to track? Even a 34 row isn't enough for most. I now plan to do 2 25 rows since a 34 isn't enough and a 72 row that firehawk is selling is over $700 retail. In the winter or off track I plan to just block the one 25 row so it acts like just 1.

mr gushe · 07-30-2013, 03:22 PM

Yes I do plan on tracking the car, 2 times per year at most. I went once with out an oil cooler and I got very close to hitting limp mode. What does the Thermostat do?

Chuck33079 · 07-30-2013, 03:42 PM

It blocks the majority of the oil flow from going through the core until the car's warmed up.

mr gushe · 07-30-2013, 03:43 PM

And how is that good?

Chuck33079 · 07-30-2013, 03:46 PM

Well, in cold temperatures it would take a lot longer to get up to operating temp if the engine oil were being circulated through the core that cools it back down.

mr gushe · 07-30-2013, 03:49 PM

Oh it blocks the oil from going through the cooler, I thought the engine...silly me

markthomas69 · 07-31-2013, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Given how hot it gets in the summer in TX, a smaller oil cooler wouldn't be a bad idea.

Agreed, my next investment!

fuct · 07-31-2013, 09:38 AM

i dont track my DD but im still thinking about getting a 19 row here in houston. during traffic or if i beat on it during the summer i see some hot sustained temps.

Chuck33079 · 07-31-2013, 09:41 AM

Between the heat and humidity, you need to. I might err on the side of "too big" rather than "too little" and go with a 25 row. Between that and lowering the temps the fans turn on at through Uprev, your temps will be a lot more stable. It's not the heat, it's the humidity.

07-29-2013, 11:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr gushe Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 14 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z nizmo Rep Power: 13	25 row oil cooler question I am planning on buying a 25 row oil cooler and I was wondering if this would effect the car in colder temps. I live in Lubbock, Texas and weather over there can be very unpredictable. It freezes over a few times in the winter. Would the oil cooler effect the car in these temps or not?

07-29-2013, 11:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	You may need to fashion some kind of block off plate for the core. Make sure whichever kit you buy has a thermostat in the sandwich plate. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-29-2013, 11:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Given how hot it gets in the summer in TX, a smaller oil cooler wouldn't be a bad idea. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-29-2013, 11:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Do you garage the car? __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

07-30-2013, 12:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	OP ever going to track? Even a 34 row isn't enough for most. I now plan to do 2 25 rows since a 34 isn't enough and a 72 row that firehawk is selling is over $700 retail. In the winter or off track I plan to just block the one 25 row so it acts like just 1. __________________ 13 370z-

07-29-2013, 11:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	Why do you need the oil cooler anyway? If you have no intension of tracking your Z then it's just a waste of resources to buy one. For daily driver car no need for oil cooler. But if your purpose is for other staff like performance upgrades like supercharging and or twin turbo then above post would help in winter times.

07-29-2013, 11:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
blueranger Track Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 577 Drives: 2010 Roadster 7AT Rep Power: 307	I have similar weather here in Albuquerque and I just installed (today) a 25 row oil cooler. I think it is totally worth it as I always saw 225-230 temps with just spirited driving. These temps always made me back off so I decided it was best to do the cooler and not worry about the temps and just drive

07-30-2013, 03:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
mr gushe Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 14 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z nizmo Rep Power: 13	Yes I do plan on tracking the car, 2 times per year at most. I went once with out an oil cooler and I got very close to hitting limp mode. What does the Thermostat do?

07-30-2013, 03:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It blocks the majority of the oil flow from going through the core until the car's warmed up. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-30-2013, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
mr gushe Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 14 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z nizmo Rep Power: 13	And how is that good?

07-30-2013, 03:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Well, in cold temperatures it would take a lot longer to get up to operating temp if the engine oil were being circulated through the core that cools it back down. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-30-2013, 03:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
mr gushe Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 14 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z nizmo Rep Power: 13	Oh it blocks the oil from going through the cooler, I thought the engine...silly me

07-31-2013, 09:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	i dont track my DD but im still thinking about getting a 19 row here in houston. during traffic or if i beat on it during the summer i see some hot sustained temps.

07-31-2013, 09:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Between the heat and humidity, you need to. I might err on the side of "too big" rather than "too little" and go with a 25 row. Between that and lowering the temps the fans turn on at through Uprev, your temps will be a lot more stable. It's not the heat, it's the humidity. gurneyeagle likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent Last edited by Chuck33079; 07-31-2013 at 09:45 AM.

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