When you Shift

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 09:45 AM

The car's just a little touchy. I've driven manuals for more years than I'd like to count, and it still took me a little while to figure out what the Z wanted from me. Once I figured it out, it was perfectly smooth. Then I switched to a light flywheel and really grabby clutch, and it all went out the window.

Dzel · 07-23-2013, 10:04 AM

I have to agree with Chuck here as much as it pains me! Lol but the helper spring is a 10 min swap and it helps in the noob shifting feel you have when driving a Z. Use the search bar and Torre in helper spring do your own research and you'll see what we're talking about.

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Dzel · 07-23-2013, 10:04 AM

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Haboob · 07-23-2013, 10:19 AM

I'm still perfecting it and it's been 8mos.

Though, there are times I still ride the clutch by accident whether it's due to pain in my leg/exhaustion or lack of attentiveness... Oh well. It's not often.

Minsu · 07-23-2013, 12:52 PM

ahh lol i c kk. and my friend is a car mechanic for about 3 years in sports car. and ill order the spring when i get a chance i went through all 30 some pages of the spring thread

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 12:54 PM

Just take it out for the time being. See if you even want a spring in there. It takes ten minutes and is completely reversible. Also, being a mechanic for three years doesn't mean you know anything. 75% of the mechanics I've ever met were functionally retarded.

Haboob · 07-23-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu

ahh lol i c kk. and my friend is a car mechanic for about 3 years in sports car. and ill order the spring when i get a chance i went through all 30 some pages of the spring thread

I took mine out completely on like day 3 of having the car.

Didn't replace the spring at all. Feels so much better.

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 12:57 PM

Mine came out after I drove it home from buying it out of state, so 36 hours after purchase or so. It's so much easier to drive when you can feel the engagement point.

Haboob · 07-23-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Mine came out after I drove it home from buying it out of state, so 36 hours after purchase or so. It's so much easier to drive when you can feel the engagement point.

Pretty much the same. Took me two days to find the thread about that spring though, lol.

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 01:09 PM

Luckily my buddy has a G37s and had already done it. I hopped in his, pumped the clutch a few times and then made him tell me how to do it.

Elan · 07-23-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Am I the only one who enjoys how the stock clutch pedal feels? haha

This all sounds like human error and needing to just get used to the car. It took me a solid week to get everything perfect. But I did have a month of practice driving a manual before I bought the Z.

+1 I think the feel is fine. It just takes some getting used to. I hopped in my buddies Mustang GT and holy hell was that clutch a pain compared to the Z. The Z is touchy and driving it takes some getting used to. Anyone that came from the 350 will know this.

Got_Z · 12-20-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Elan

+1 I think the feel is fine. It just takes some getting used to. I hopped in my buddies Mustang GT and holy hell was that clutch a pain compared to the Z. The Z is touchy and driving it takes some getting used to. Anyone that came from the 350 will know this.

I thought mine was a pain for the first 1-2 weeks. Now I think it's fine. Have shifts as smooth as an Automatic car.

-M-

Gibby1113 · 12-21-2013, 02:12 AM

So removing the helper spring helps find the engagement point better?

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Minsu

no a friend of mine said not to do anything to it untill im 100% comfortable with it so ill take his advice on that now.

another question i have is when im on a uphill, i never have smooth shifts N-3....why is that any advice for that? do you even sshift into second on the hill or just goes 1-3?

or do ijust give it more has cause the rpm's fall faster?

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Nothing wrong with putting in the clutch helper spring. It will give you better feel of your clutch. Sorry to say this, but your friend is incorrect.

Did I read your question right, are you saying you're skipping a gear while going uphill? I never do that, going down hill-yes.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Your friend has no idea what he's talking about. Being able to feel the engagement point will make your life so much easier.

to all the above!

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Originally Posted by Minsu

lol lets not bash on the friend. but im slowly feeling the engagement point with muscle memory and i do feel the car move slightly foward, i just had to listen to her abit instead of trying to force her to things my way. just drove up hill down hill side hill curve left curve right stop lights traffic...in the rain. lolll i had to keep telling my self not to brake but all in all it was a good experience

Let's bash the friend!!! Bring out the pitchforks!!!
No but seriously, your friend has never driven a 370Z and/or is 100% wrong.
OTHER cars have a clutch pedal feel... The 370Z doesn't... At all...

Taking the spring out takes it from almost the WORST transmission to pretty good, bit clunky, but who cares? Best mod you can do on a manual.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gibby1113

So removing the helper spring helps find the engagement point better?

Yes, our you can get a less strong spring for $15-20 on eBay

07-23-2013, 09:45 AM	#31 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The car's just a little touchy. I've driven manuals for more years than I'd like to count, and it still took me a little while to figure out what the Z wanted from me. Once I figured it out, it was perfectly smooth. Then I switched to a light flywheel and really grabby clutch, and it all went out the window. JARblue likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-23-2013, 10:04 AM	#32 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 23	I have to agree with Chuck here as much as it pains me! Lol but the helper spring is a 10 min swap and it helps in the noob shifting feel you have when driving a Z. Use the search bar and Torre in helper spring do your own research and you'll see what we're talking about. Sent with TapAhoe __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-23-2013, 10:04 AM	#33 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 23	type Sent with TapAhoe __________________ 10secWS6* IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-23-2013, 10:19 AM	#34 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	I'm still perfecting it and it's been 8mos. Though, there are times I still ride the clutch by accident whether it's due to pain in my leg/exhaustion or lack of attentiveness... Oh well. It's not often. zefaulter likes this.

07-23-2013, 12:52 PM	#35 (permalink)
Minsu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401 Drives: 2013 MidBlue 370Z 6M Rep Power: 24	ahh lol i c kk. and my friend is a car mechanic for about 3 years in sports car. and ill order the spring when i get a chance i went through all 30 some pages of the spring thread __________________ I figured, Get High, Take the Test High, Get HIGH Scoes

07-23-2013, 12:54 PM	#36 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Just take it out for the time being. See if you even want a spring in there. It takes ten minutes and is completely reversible. Also, being a mechanic for three years doesn't mean you know anything. 75% of the mechanics I've ever met were functionally retarded. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-23-2013, 12:57 PM	#38 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Mine came out after I drove it home from buying it out of state, so 36 hours after purchase or so. It's so much easier to drive when you can feel the engagement point. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-23-2013, 01:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Luckily my buddy has a G37s and had already done it. I hopped in his, pumped the clutch a few times and then made him tell me how to do it. DEpointfive0 and Haboob like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-21-2013, 02:12 AM	#43 (permalink)
Gibby1113 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: On open empty highways Posts: 366 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 12	So removing the helper spring helps find the engagement point better? DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 40th anniversary #450/1000 \| Takeda Attack CAI \| Ark DTS exhaust \| to be continued...

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