TORCO Accelerator

DEpointfive0 · 09-21-2013, 11:45 AM

The spam outbreak is really bad this morning, lol

Baer383 · 09-21-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

The spam outbreak is really bad this morning, lol

I know and the Fvckers can't even speak english.

DEpointfive0 · 09-21-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I know and the Fvckers can't even speak english.

I don't think they can speak any language! Lol

1slow370 · 09-21-2013, 09:21 PM

toluene actually pumps your octane too, and it's cheaper, but it isn't as much of a bump as what torco will give you. 5% toluene will take 91 up to somewhere between 95-98. but at 5% you need a gallon of it in a fill up.

1slow370 · 09-21-2013, 09:22 PM

also it doesn't have much effect past 5%

Baer383 · 09-21-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

toluene actually pumps your octane too, and it's cheaper, but it isn't as much of a bump as what torco will give you. 5% toluene will take 91 up to somewhere between 95-98. but at 5% you need a gallon of it in a fill up.

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

also it doesn't have much effect past 5%

I use to use toluene and xylene but Torco seems to work better judging the logs I read.

skidad62 · 09-21-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

Its really funny how I read the Mustang,Corvette,LS1,Subaru,forums and those that use it can run more boost more timing and have no knock, but you guys blast something you don't use, save your comment for someone who can't read or hear.

x2 agreed.

Funny to see the bashing when folks have no experience with it.

I ran Torco on my race tune at over 600 rwhp as extra protection at the track.

It works great and you can bump timing if desired. For me the extra octane was just for protection against detonation at 22 pounds of boost

You can bump 91 octane to 105 - works great

Comes in 32 oz cans - better deal is a 5 gallon can - then I used to move it over to a VP fuel race jug.

synolimit · 09-21-2013, 10:36 PM

All ohio has 93, where's that chart?

skidad62 · 09-21-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

All ohio has 93, where's that chart?

synolimit · 09-21-2013, 11:25 PM

Little review...written 11/20/11...$45 to $350 shipped!!! Anyone who buys this bend over...

This stuff has been around for a long time, but solid information is hard to find. I want to post this information for others that would like a simple, inexpensive and safe way to fix crap quality gas.

All testing done on a 2011 WRX, Cobb SF intake and Accessport OTS Stage one map installed.

When I first got my AP I was using the ACN map and getting light knock with my local Chevron and Shell 91 in SoCal. Nothing extreme that a little FKL didn't adjust for, but much power lost compared to the OTS 93 (maybe 10hp and 20tq according to Cobb dynos)

In attempt at getting my tank full of some quality gas... I went with 3.5 gallons of VP100 and the rest 91. Car ran good with the 93map but still some light knock. A little more VP100 would have maybe fixed it, but to the tune of an extra $30+ per tank its rediculous for daily driving. Up next was Torco...

I scoured the internet for all info and testimonials, also visited the Torco manufacturer, and bought a couple gallons of it for me and two WRX owning friends to test out. According to Torco you need only 12oz to turn 15gal of 91 into 93. I was skeptical at first and added 16oz to a solid 15gal of Chevron 91. My car takes 15gal at fillup normally because I commute ALOT and run it down a bit into the E.

Results were great! No knock anywhere in many logging sessions. No butt dyno power slumps at any RPM. Same deal on my friends cars. I then stepped down to only 12oz for the next fillup and same perfect results. I even did some 4th and 5th gear WOT bog sessions to make extra sure. I am thinking I'll even try a little less until knock shows up, so I can use the smallest amount or Torco possible.

Torco uses a mixture of Anti-Knock additives to create the same effect of higher octane fuel. The main ingredient is MMT, which is very great at suppressing knock but doesn't burn off completely and can leave residue in your engine and exhaust. This has been shown in engine teardowns where people had been using very high concentrations of Torco to attempt to get gas similar to 105+ octane. Although there was a dusty orange coating from it, it didn't affect performance or damage the engine. I personally wouldnt want this buildup regardless, so I'm not planning on adding 64oz to my tank anytime soon! I also have no use for anything higher than 93 octane at the moment.

So for anyone wanting 93 octane the cheap and easy way, I can recommend Torco. Remember to add only 12oz (a soda can worth) to a full tank of gas to avoid buildup from having more MMT in the cylinders than the combustion process can completely burn off.

Torco costs $45 for 5 tanks of gas worth at retail, and if u have a resell license it drops down to $34. It comes in metal cans, so getting a 12oz fuel system cleaner bottle with a long neck is ideal. It will pre-measure for you and make it super quick to pull out of the trunk and dump in the tank at the gas station. Try not to spill it on your car or skin, or breath the fumes as its highly toxic.

1slow370 · 09-21-2013, 11:50 PM

good stuff, i'm not hating on torco or anything but now i wonder what a tank of 91 + torco + toluene + 5% propylene oxide would do..

1slow370 · 09-22-2013, 12:57 AM

or get a meth injection setup but fill the bottle with nitro instead( yeh gonna need a tune and 5 gals is $200)

synolimit · 09-22-2013, 01:52 AM

If you want octane go Aquamist meth injection and boost juice! Costs a lot less because you only use it when you push the go peddle.

---- 806-063 ---- HFS3-v3 PWM valve system - aquamist-direct.com

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sno-40008/overview/

DEpointfive0 · 09-22-2013, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

toluene actually pumps your octane too, and it's cheaper, but it isn't as much of a bump as what torco will give you. 5% toluene will take 91 up to somewhere between 95-98. but at 5% you need a gallon of it in a fill up.

Might want to retry that math
Toluene has an AKI of 114

1 gallon in 19 gallons of 91 takes it to a solid 92

Baer383 · 09-22-2013, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

If you want octane go Aquamist meth injection and boost juice! Costs a lot less because you only use it when you push the go peddle.

---- 806-063 ---- HFS3-v3 PWM valve system - aquamist-direct.com

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sno-40008/overview/

I had the snow performance meth on it and the car response better with the Torco so I guess that you know where to inject your review.

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	toluene actually pumps your octane too, and it's cheaper, but it isn't as much of a bump as what torco will give you. 5% toluene will take 91 up to somewhere between 95-98. but at 5% you need a gallon of it in a fill up. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-21-2013, 09:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	also it doesn't have much effect past 5% __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-21-2013, 10:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	All ohio has 93, where's that chart? __________________ 13 370z-

09-21-2013, 11:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Little review...written 11/20/11...$45 to $350 shipped!!! Anyone who buys this bend over... This stuff has been around for a long time, but solid information is hard to find. I want to post this information for others that would like a simple, inexpensive and safe way to fix crap quality gas. All testing done on a 2011 WRX, Cobb SF intake and Accessport OTS Stage one map installed. When I first got my AP I was using the ACN map and getting light knock with my local Chevron and Shell 91 in SoCal. Nothing extreme that a little FKL didn't adjust for, but much power lost compared to the OTS 93 (maybe 10hp and 20tq according to Cobb dynos) In attempt at getting my tank full of some quality gas... I went with 3.5 gallons of VP100 and the rest 91. Car ran good with the 93map but still some light knock. A little more VP100 would have maybe fixed it, but to the tune of an extra $30+ per tank its rediculous for daily driving. Up next was Torco... I scoured the internet for all info and testimonials, also visited the Torco manufacturer, and bought a couple gallons of it for me and two WRX owning friends to test out. According to Torco you need only 12oz to turn 15gal of 91 into 93. I was skeptical at first and added 16oz to a solid 15gal of Chevron 91. My car takes 15gal at fillup normally because I commute ALOT and run it down a bit into the E. Results were great! No knock anywhere in many logging sessions. No butt dyno power slumps at any RPM. Same deal on my friends cars. I then stepped down to only 12oz for the next fillup and same perfect results. I even did some 4th and 5th gear WOT bog sessions to make extra sure. I am thinking I'll even try a little less until knock shows up, so I can use the smallest amount or Torco possible. Torco uses a mixture of Anti-Knock additives to create the same effect of higher octane fuel. The main ingredient is MMT, which is very great at suppressing knock but doesn't burn off completely and can leave residue in your engine and exhaust. This has been shown in engine teardowns where people had been using very high concentrations of Torco to attempt to get gas similar to 105+ octane. Although there was a dusty orange coating from it, it didn't affect performance or damage the engine. I personally wouldnt want this buildup regardless, so I'm not planning on adding 64oz to my tank anytime soon! I also have no use for anything higher than 93 octane at the moment. So for anyone wanting 93 octane the cheap and easy way, I can recommend Torco. Remember to add only 12oz (a soda can worth) to a full tank of gas to avoid buildup from having more MMT in the cylinders than the combustion process can completely burn off. Torco costs $45 for 5 tanks of gas worth at retail, and if u have a resell license it drops down to $34. It comes in metal cans, so getting a 12oz fuel system cleaner bottle with a long neck is ideal. It will pre-measure for you and make it super quick to pull out of the trunk and dump in the tank at the gas station. Try not to spill it on your car or skin, or breath the fumes as its highly toxic. __________________ 13 370z- Last edited by synolimit; 09-21-2013 at 11:38 PM.

09-21-2013, 11:50 PM	#26 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	good stuff, i'm not hating on torco or anything but now i wonder what a tank of 91 + torco + toluene + 5% propylene oxide would do.. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-22-2013, 12:57 AM	#27 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	or get a meth injection setup but fill the bottle with nitro instead( yeh gonna need a tune and 5 gals is $200) __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-22-2013, 01:52 AM	#28 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	If you want octane go Aquamist meth injection and boost juice! Costs a lot less because you only use it when you push the go peddle. ---- 806-063 ---- HFS3-v3 PWM valve system - aquamist-direct.com http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sno-40008/overview/ __________________ 13 370z-

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