Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2499274)

Little review...written 11/20/11...$45 to $350 shipped!!! Anyone who buys this bend over...

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This stuff has been around for a long time, but solid information is hard to find. I want to post this information for others that would like a simple, inexpensive and safe way to fix crap quality gas.

All testing done on a 2011 WRX, Cobb SF intake and Accessport OTS Stage one map installed.

When I first got my AP I was using the ACN map and getting light knock with my local Chevron and Shell 91 in SoCal. Nothing extreme that a little FKL didn't adjust for, but much power lost compared to the OTS 93 (maybe 10hp and 20tq according to Cobb dynos)

In attempt at getting my tank full of some quality gas... I went with 3.5 gallons of VP100 and the rest 91. Car ran good with the 93map but still some light knock. A little more VP100 would have maybe fixed it, but to the tune of an extra $30+ per tank its rediculous for daily driving. Up next was Torco...

I scoured the internet for all info and testimonials, also visited the Torco manufacturer, and bought a couple gallons of it for me and two WRX owning friends to test out. According to Torco you need only 12oz to turn 15gal of 91 into 93. I was skeptical at first and added 16oz to a solid 15gal of Chevron 91. My car takes 15gal at fillup normally because I commute ALOT and run it down a bit into the E.

Results were great! No knock anywhere in many logging sessions. No butt dyno power slumps at any RPM. Same deal on my friends cars. I then stepped down to only 12oz for the next fillup and same perfect results. I even did some 4th and 5th gear WOT bog sessions to make extra sure. I am thinking I'll even try a little less until knock shows up, so I can use the smallest amount or Torco possible.

Torco uses a mixture of Anti-Knock additives to create the same effect of higher octane fuel. The main ingredient is MMT, which is very great at suppressing knock but doesn't burn off completely and can leave residue in your engine and exhaust. This has been shown in engine teardowns where people had been using very high concentrations of Torco to attempt to get gas similar to 105+ octane. Although there was a dusty orange coating from it, it didn't affect performance or damage the engine. I personally wouldnt want this buildup regardless, so I'm not planning on adding 64oz to my tank anytime soon! I also have no use for anything higher than 93 octane at the moment.

So for anyone wanting 93 octane the cheap and easy way, I can recommend Torco. Remember to add only 12oz (a soda can worth) to a full tank of gas to avoid buildup from having more MMT in the cylinders than the combustion process can completely burn off.

Torco costs $45 for 5 tanks of gas worth at retail, and if u have a resell license it drops down to $34. It comes in metal cans, so getting a 12oz fuel system cleaner bottle with a long neck is ideal. It will pre-measure for you and make it super quick to pull out of the trunk and dump in the tank at the gas station. Try not to spill it on your car or skin, or breath the fumes as its highly toxic.

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2499404)

I had the snow performance meth on it and the car response better with the Torco so I guess that you know where to inject your review.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2499586)

I doubt u tested enough to make that conclusion. There are way to many jets, tuning settings in timing, and amounts of torco you could just be dumping into the tank to ever know whats best. Being a scientist you'd have to have a base study, several tanks of each with different amounts, tune each tank like it was the first tune, dyno's for all, it'd take days!

Whats worse than people saying stuff doesn't work they don't use is all you people and your butt dyno's that never show proof and every part anyone ever makes is the most amazing part ever created for any car ever.

When youre ready ill be here waiting for back to back dyno's, logs of timing, and logs of knock vs no knock and then we can all decide if a mind blowing freaking $21-$42 a tank!!!! is worth a few HP on a car with no boost. :tup:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2499514)

Again comments from people who don't use the stuff.

I'm out ,can't defend against some people with a lack experience with this product.:shakes head:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2499593)

I have been using it for 2 years on 2 different SC 370z and tune my own car,and the head tuner @ Z1 motorsports is extremly impressed on the way it runs and the timing it pulls @ 7k.

I think you guys should talk or read about people who use it I think you would change your tune.

Mixing racing gas would be better but for the price of 110 octane fuel vs Torco,it only cost $19 a tank extra and I can afford it.

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 2499693)

I didn't say it wouldn't improve performance so learn to read what people write before you make your rude comments. Like I stated earlier, you can't raise the octane of gasoline out of any can. So go back and figure out what this additive is actually doing and report back.