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1slow370 12-15-2013 01:58 AM

yeah but Japanese build giant robots, beat that

synolimit 12-15-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MFactory (Post 2406362)

So far to date, from thousands of LSD's sold, we have not had any serious quality issues, so find it strange that you had issues and never contacted us.

This always bothers me! AMS told me the same thing with their front control arm for our car, yet its funny with thousands of members on this forum, no one runs the arms!

While you may sell and make others cars LSDs, I never believe such bold statements with no proof. If there is thousands, 100 would have no issue coming on and telling us about the product. Ill google the LSD for any car, but I doubt ill find "thousands." only more of these threads asking, "who runs it" and the same responses, "china this, junk that, quality this, quality that."

MFactory 12-15-2013 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2609989)
This always bothers me! AMS told me the same thing with their front control arm for our car, yet its funny with thousands of members on this forum, no one runs the arms!

While you may sell and make others cars LSDs, I never believe such bold statements with no proof. If there is thousands, 100 would have no issue coming on and telling us about the product. Ill google the LSD for any car, but I doubt ill find "thousands." only more of these threads asking, "who runs it" and the same responses, "china this, junk that, quality this, quality that."

It's not a bold statement, it's a matter of truth. However, I understand your reservations to these "bold statements". You asked for proof; what proof exactly do you want? Do you really require me to break Privacy/Confidentiality agreements and give you the contact details of thousands of our customers? Short of doing that, there is no way to give you your "proof".

No one on this forum runs our LSD because we don't have anything for the 350/370Z yet, so why would someone who doesn't own a 350/370Z come onto this forum to tell you about our product for their non-350/370Z?!? Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.

Yes, please do Google MFactory LSD; You will be surprised at what you find. One other thing, generally, when someone is happy with a product, 90% won't say anything about it. However, when someone is not happy about a product, 90% of the time, they will say something about it. Because of this, yes, I agree with you, you will find it impossible to find thousands of "happy customers" by searching online.

However, what you will find when you do Google MFactory LSD, is that the other 10% of happy people will have posted up about our company and our product, whereas you will not find very many "unhappy" people (and those that you do find, we have always sorted any issues with them. We stand behind our product 100%)

We are 100% committed to making the 350/370Z fitment, so here's what I will offer someone on this forum, should they decide to accept:

I will send the prototype of our 350/370Z Helical LSD Free of Charge for test fitment and review; Yes, absolutely free of charge, under the following conditions:

1) The tester will work with us to ensure 100% fitment and function of the LSD. Tester must be willing, have time and experience of installing differentials in the 350/370Z
2) If, after testing, you find the quality of the product to your approval, you will be required to provide an online review
3) Of course, the LSD is yours to keep and use :)

PM me if you think you are a suitable candidate for R&D :)

Hotrodz 12-15-2013 09:45 AM

Now what do ya got say about that.....:wtf2:

luigi90210 12-15-2013 11:14 AM

I'm subbing. If they make a cheaper alternative option to quaife that's reliable, I'm in.

synolimit 12-15-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MFactory (Post 2610007)

Yes, please do Google MFactory LSD; You will be surprised at what you find. One other thing, generally, when someone is happy with a product, 90% won't say anything about it. However, when someone is not happy about a product, 90% of the time, they will say something about it. Because of this, yes, I agree with you, you will find it impossible to find thousands of "happy customers" by searching online.

However, what you will find when you do Google MFactory LSD, is that the other 10% of happy people will have posted up about our company and our product, whereas you will not find very many "unhappy" people (and those that you do find, we have always sorted any issues with them. We stand behind our product 100%)

We are 100% committed to making the 350/370Z fitment, so here's what I will offer someone on this forum, should they decide to accept:

I will send the prototype of our 350/370Z Helical LSD Free of Charge for test fitment and review; Yes, absolutely free of charge, under the following conditions:

1) The tester will work with us to ensure 100% fitment and function of the LSD. Tester must be willing, have time and experience of installing differentials in the 350/370Z
2) If, after testing, you find the quality of the product to your approval, you will be required to provide an online review
3) Of course, the LSD is yours to keep and use :)

PM me if you think you are a suitable candidate for R&D :)

Well I searched. Only went through 2 pages of google. Found 2 reviews that had happy people with the install and quality. One civic and one Mazda something. There was no info on the usage and the thread died after about 5 posts. That's pretty weird to me about such an important item. The other threads I found were you guys that cut and pasted the same thing on every car forum showing pics and talking about your product. Again the threads died after about 5 posts with no real interest. I don't think its impossible to find thousands of happy people. I can name lots of products on many forums that come to mind with ease or thousands of posts about the products thread.

See to me that's fishy. I've made threads before and others have too about products that have had thousands of responses; FI's CBE here and Grimmspeed's AOS on Nasioc come to mind. The negative nancy that I mean screams to me those reviews were by paid employees possibly, I mean that's not under for companies to do.

Well if you are committed then I guess we can wait and see. Although you did say you're busy no? So we have to wait and wait and wait for everything for our cars! Intake manifolds and front camber arms come to mind, anyone else with me on that haha :tup: (SPL)

Yes I could do all that and do a review. I'd even have the LSD tested for hardness with a Brinell tester that pushes into the gears and makes a very small dimple, that way people like Rusty can be put at ease. A free LSD is cool, but if my diff explodes I'm kinda SOL no? That's a big risk for something I don't want to pay to get fixed by testing out a $600 product.

So who knows. Contact me in several years when the LSD is ready :bowrofl:

Rusty 12-15-2013 11:36 AM

Thank bud! I needed a good laugh. Sittin' here in Tampa waiting for my flight home.:tiphat:

MFactory 12-15-2013 12:01 PM

Mods: If I'm breaking any rules, please feel free to edit/delete my post

If you're only going to go through 2 pages of Google, then obviously you're not going to find much, as most of the initial results will be advertisement threads (from either ourselves or our dealers). Also, you really can't compare a niche product to something like an exhaust or oil adaptor.

Just because you can't find thousands of positive reviews, it doesn't mean the product/company is bad. Infact, name an LSD that you know 100% to be to your satisfaction, and then show me their thousands of positive reviews. I'm willing to bet you can't do that either :p Seriously, unless you can show me their thousands of positive reviews then, according to your logic, there are no good LSD's on the market. Hmmm, ok.....

As for paid employees, please :) If you even bothered to read this thread, you will notice some posts from members who have already had experience with our products/company.

Yes, we are busy, but that does not mean we will not be working on this LSD. Our average project lead time is around 2-3 months for new LSD's.

Anyway, here are some reviews for you after 1min of googling:

Part 1: MFactory LSD review - Honda-Tech
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2395902
Mfactory LSD Installed - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums
M Factory LSD or other LSD's opinions / inputs? - D-series.org
MFactory LSD group buy discussion thread (This was a Group Buy for the Mazda Protege)
mfactory review
Z4-forum.com • View topic - Fitted a LSD to my e85 Z4 3.0

Anyway, synolimit, I'm not going to continue this sort of back-and-forth chat with you, as it's pointless. I completely understand where you are coming from (i.e new company (for 350/370Z at least), overseas manufacturing, can't provide the thousands of positive reviews to prove that we have sold thousands of LSD's since 2008), and understand your reluctance to trust anything coming from a manufacturer. It is what it is, and there is nothing that I can say that will change the way you think.

As said, we are committed to this platform, and we will have something available shortly (i.e a few months, not a few years). Infact, we actually just finished our prototype 350Z AT LSD (albeit our Metal Plate type) last week and is being tested. Whether you take interest or not in our company/products, that's up to you to decide. I'm not forcing you to like our company, and I'm most certainly not forcing you to buy our product :)

luigi90210 12-15-2013 01:31 PM

Mfactory I sent ya a PM about being a test car.

I have heard good things from some local guys about your diff's.

synolimit 12-15-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFactory (Post 2610266)
Mods: If I'm breaking any rules, please feel free to edit/delete my post

If you're only going to go through 2 pages of Google, then obviously you're not going to find much, as most of the initial results will be advertisement threads (from either ourselves or our dealers). Also, you really can't compare a niche product to something like an exhaust or oil adaptor.

Just because you can't find thousands of positive reviews, it doesn't mean the product/company is bad. Infact, name an LSD that you know 100% to be to your satisfaction, and then show me their thousands of positive reviews. I'm willing to bet you can't do that either :p Seriously, unless you can show me their thousands of positive reviews then, according to your logic, there are no good LSD's on the market. Hmmm, ok.....

As for paid employees, please :) If you even bothered to read this thread, you will notice some posts from members who have already had experience with our products/company.

Yes, we are busy, but that does not mean we will not be working on this LSD. Our average project lead time is around 2-3 months for new LSD's.

Anyway, here are some reviews for you after 1min of googling:

Part 1: MFactory LSD review - Honda-Tech
Part 2: MFactory LSD review - Honda-Tech
Mfactory LSD Installed - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums
M Factory LSD or other LSD's opinions / inputs? - D-series.org
MFactory LSD group buy discussion thread (This was a Group Buy for the Mazda Protege)
mfactory review
Z4-forum.com • View topic - Fitted a LSD to my e85 Z4 3.0

Anyway, synolimit, I'm not going to continue this sort of back-and-forth chat with you, as it's pointless. I completely understand where you are coming from (i.e new company (for 350/370Z at least), overseas manufacturing, can't provide the thousands of positive reviews to prove that we have sold thousands of LSD's since 2008), and understand your reluctance to trust anything coming from a manufacturer. It is what it is, and there is nothing that I can say that will change the way you think.

As said, we are committed to this platform, and we will have something available shortly (i.e a few months, not a few years). Infact, we actually just finished our prototype 350Z AT LSD (albeit our Metal Plate type) last week and is being tested. Whether you take interest or not in our company/products, that's up to you to decide. I'm not forcing you to like our company, and I'm most certainly not forcing you to buy our product :)

I've said my peace. If you want a "hatter" tester, I said id test it, but only after it passes testing ill do and quality etc. i mean what better way to sell a product than having someone like me write the review. I won't just blindly install and risk a diff however, I'm sure you can understand that.

Masterbeatty 12-27-2013 12:38 PM

SOOOOO were there any takers for this LSD test? If so whats the news so far?

scionide 12-27-2013 01:15 PM

Maybe it's still not ready for testing?

I'm interested in testing it..I'm near by too, though I haven't installed a LSD before on this car :eekdance:

xxAGAVExx 12-27-2013 01:16 PM

Sub'd

synolimit 12-28-2013 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2626940)
SOOOOO were there any takers for this LSD test? If so whats the news so far?

They're months and months away so no one can test.

fairlady_z34 12-28-2013 10:51 AM

i'll test it on my car. lmk when you guys are ready


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