Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler vs. Stillen Oil Cooler

afsbimmer · 08-19-2009, 02:35 PM

Dustin - my car is street only; but I enjoy spirited driving. Had the car since April; ready to do an oil cooler after several months of summer driving and high oil temps. What is the warranty on the Nissan oil cooler? Also, what is the impact on the factory warranty? Can you do the installation; if so what is approximate cost? I live in Atlanta; bought the car at Regal Nissan in Roswell.

alan93rsa · 08-19-2009, 07:38 PM

The Nissan adapter is a nice piece of work. If you want a thermostat you can buy one and put it in-line with the oil lines. This would require cutting the lines and installing AN fittings. One of the best ones I have seen is the Canton Racing in-line unit. Pricey, but the cheapest upgrade sometimes is the best choice the first time around. I would have used theirs had I kept my Z.

Any oil cooler I have installed in the past has used AN-10 or larger lines.

ErnieT · 08-19-2009, 10:24 PM

I should get my Nissan Motorsports oil cooler tomorrow. I'll let you guys know what I think. Im going to Summit Point to road race in a couple weeks so this will come in handy.

AK370Z · 08-19-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbird

Outperformance Shop has this for sale" NISMO 21300-SS370 2009+ Nissan 370z Engine Oil Cooler $780.00". No picture. Is this the Nissan Motorsports oil cooler?

YES! It's the Nissan Motorsports oil cooler because Nismo one is NOT released yet. I don't know why they didn't reflect that in that store website

ZForce · 08-19-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1

And btw...those core sizes I promised!

Stillen = 19 row 13" x 1 1/4" x 5 3/4" = 74.62 sq inches of surface area

Nissan Motorsports = 34 row 13" x 1 1/4" x 10 1/4" =133.25 sq inches of surface area

The height of the cooler is the only size differance. But the fact that it is taller. If you do the math, there is 44% increase in surface area between the Stillen and Nissan Motorsports kits and over twice the number of rows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac

Stillen (apperently) has a bigger cooler coming out but it seems to be held up at this point in time. Too bad as I'm going to pull the trigger soon on some sort of oil cooler....

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Anyone know how these compare to the GT Motorsports cooler. Is this the same size as Stillen or Nismo, or in-between ???

Here you go from MyG37.com

MyG37 - View Single Post - GT Motorsports: GTM Engine and Transmission Oil Cooler Kits!

Also from GTM's website.

GTM Motorsports*::*ENGINE EXTERNALS*::*Oil Coolers*::*GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ

Price $380.

btw: I have also been holding out for Stillen to come out with their upgraded oil coller kit w/ lrgr core. Ready to pull the trigger on GTM or for Modshack cooler that he pieced together for $270 shipped.

DIY: Oil Cooler (scratch built install, lottsa pics).....>.

Price $270.

billydsz · 08-19-2009, 11:01 PM

What is the ideal temperature range for the motor oil in the 370z?? Thanks.

ErnieT · 08-25-2009, 09:01 PM

Dustin,
I just got my Nissan oil cooler kit from you guys. Thanks for the quick fix (btw)....Anyhow, I just noticed its not controlled by a thermostat. I live in Md so it gets cold. Any suggestions on how I can install a thermostat or what I can do so I dont have to remove it or block it off?? Thanks.
Ernie

Modshack · 08-25-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ErnieT

Dustin,
I just got my Nissan oil cooler kit from you guys. Thanks for the quick fix (btw)....Anyhow, I just noticed its not controlled by a thermostat. I live in Md so it gets cold. Any suggestions on how I can install a thermostat or what I can do so I dont have to remove it or block it off?? Thanks.
Ernie

Seems a shame the Nissan unit does not come with a thermostatic plate, especialy at that price...

For a little over $100 with fittings You can retrofit to a Mocal Thermo plate or add an outboard thermostat. Replacing the plate is the simplest. See the parts list in My oil Cooler install album here:
Oil Cooler fabrication and install album | Ttschwing | Fotki.com

racerxj17 · 08-25-2009, 09:17 PM

im glad i didnt go with a larger cooler. my temps are down nearly 40 degrees, in all conditions. beating on the car hard, 220 vs 260. cruising on the freeway, 180 vs 220 (i have the stillen). i honestly was not expecting anywhere this much decrease in oil temps.

i wouldnt want to go larger without some type of control, since 180 is pretty cold already..

Modshack · 08-25-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by racerxj17

im glad i didnt go with a larger cooler. my temps are down nearly 40 degrees, in all conditions. beating on the car hard, 220 vs 260. cruising on the freeway, 180 vs 220 (i have the stillen). i honestly was not expecting anywhere this much decrease in oil temps.

i wouldnt want to go larger without some type of control, since 180 is pretty cold already..

I agree...My tru-cool is a slight bit smaller than the Stillen (11 x 5.75). With the thermostat it runs 190-195 most of the time. I've yet to be able to get it over 225 no matter how hard I try...which all seems about perfect IMO...

antennahead · 08-26-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

I agree...My tru-cool is a slight bit smaller than the Stillen (11 x 5.75). With the thermostat it runs 190-195 most of the time. I've yet to be able to get it over 225 no matter how hard I try...which all seems about perfect IMO...

Cruising at 180 to 190, and spirited driving pushing it up to 220 or so, would be ideal I would think. What do you think daily cruising temps of 220/225 (for those of us with no cooler), and occasional spirited driving increases to 250/260, will do to the longevity of the engine? There is a line of thought here that these temps will shorten the engine life. Is there any definitive reasoning that this is the case? I guess the best way to be safe is to add the cooler.

John

Dustin@Z1 · 08-26-2009, 07:22 PM

I wanted to let you guys know about a new gallery I just finished up on our website. Its the install pics of our Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler Kit that we put on our 370Z shop car. I hope these pics help those of you who are installing an oil cooler (be it a Stillen, Nissan Motorsports, etc ) or those of you who are on the fence about purchasing one.

Z1motorsports :: Nissan Motorsports 370Z Oil Cooler Installation Pics

Ernie...I ve gotten some info together. I ll be shooting you a PM this evening.

Valentino · 08-27-2009, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1

And btw...those core sizes I promised!

Stillen = 19 row 13" x 1 1/4" x 5 3/4" = 74.62 sq inches of surface area

Nissan Motorsports = 34 row 13" x 1 1/4" x 10 1/4" =133.25 sq inches of surface area

I'm trying to compare other core size's. I keep multiplying the numbers and i can't come with your numbers!

What am i doing wrong?

Whtfairladyz · 08-27-2009, 09:36 AM

n/m

Dustin@Z1 · 08-27-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valantino

I'm trying to compare other core size's. I keep multiplying the numbers and i can't come with your numbers!

What am i doing wrong?

Sorry about the confusion. I was only multiplying the Width of the core by the height to give a representation of the surface area. I listed the Length, Width and Depth of the coolers.

Stillen = 13" x 5 3/4" = 74.75 sq in surface area (somehow my math was a little off even)

Nissan Motorsports = 13" 10 1/4" = 133.25 sq in in surface area.

I hope this alleviates some of the confusion....

08-19-2009, 07:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	The Nissan adapter is a nice piece of work. If you want a thermostat you can buy one and put it in-line with the oil lines. This would require cutting the lines and installing AN fittings. One of the best ones I have seen is the Canton Racing in-line unit. Pricey, but the cheapest upgrade sometimes is the best choice the first time around. I would have used theirs had I kept my Z. Any oil cooler I have installed in the past has used AN-10 or larger lines. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

08-19-2009, 10:24 PM	#33 (permalink)
ErnieT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Md Posts: 45 Drives: '93 RX7/'09 370Z Rep Power: 16	I should get my Nissan Motorsports oil cooler tomorrow. I'll let you guys know what I think. Im going to Summit Point to road race in a couple weeks so this will come in handy. __________________ '93 Mazda RX7 -Bridgeport 13B 781rwhp 9.87@139mph '09 Nissan 370Z- Stillen CB/Gen3 Intake/Nissan Motorsports oil cooler

08-25-2009, 09:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
ErnieT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Md Posts: 45 Drives: '93 RX7/'09 370Z Rep Power: 16	Dustin, I just got my Nissan oil cooler kit from you guys. Thanks for the quick fix (btw)....Anyhow, I just noticed its not controlled by a thermostat. I live in Md so it gets cold. Any suggestions on how I can install a thermostat or what I can do so I dont have to remove it or block it off?? Thanks. Ernie __________________ '93 Mazda RX7 -Bridgeport 13B 781rwhp 9.87@139mph '09 Nissan 370Z- Stillen CB/Gen3 Intake/Nissan Motorsports oil cooler

08-25-2009, 09:17 PM	#39 (permalink)
racerxj17 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 555 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	im glad i didnt go with a larger cooler. my temps are down nearly 40 degrees, in all conditions. beating on the car hard, 220 vs 260. cruising on the freeway, 180 vs 220 (i have the stillen). i honestly was not expecting anywhere this much decrease in oil temps. i wouldnt want to go larger without some type of control, since 180 is pretty cold already.. __________________ 2009 PW Sport/Touring/Nav M6 Stillen Gen 3 Intake/CBE/Berk HFC/BC BR Coil over/Phillips 6500k/Hotchkis Sways/Stillen oil cooler/B&M SS

08-27-2009, 09:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
Whtfairladyz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winchester, TN Posts: 77 Drives: '92 Nissan 300zx Rep Power: 266	n/m Last edited by Whtfairladyz; 08-27-2009 at 09:49 AM.

08-19-2009, 02:35 PM	#31 (permalink)
afsbimmer Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 76 Posts: 12 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z CY M6 Rep Power: 16	Dustin - my car is street only; but I enjoy spirited driving. Had the car since April; ready to do an oil cooler after several months of summer driving and high oil temps. What is the warranty on the Nissan oil cooler? Also, what is the impact on the factory warranty? Can you do the installation; if so what is approximate cost? I live in Atlanta; bought the car at Regal Nissan in Roswell.

08-19-2009, 11:01 PM	#36 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	What is the ideal temperature range for the motor oil in the 370z?? Thanks.

08-26-2009, 07:22 PM	#42 (permalink)
Dustin@Z1 The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NLA Posts: 1,313 Drives: NLA Rep Power: 18	I wanted to let you guys know about a new gallery I just finished up on our website. Its the install pics of our Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler Kit that we put on our 370Z shop car. I hope these pics help those of you who are installing an oil cooler (be it a Stillen, Nissan Motorsports, etc ) or those of you who are on the fence about purchasing one. Z1motorsports :: Nissan Motorsports 370Z Oil Cooler Installation Pics Ernie...I ve gotten some info together. I ll be shooting you a PM this evening.

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