Fan Upgrade

SPOHN · 07-02-2013, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LafitteZ

See this is what pisses me off because I asked those guys more then once if the gtm fan setup will fit the csf and gtm repeatedly told me no no no. That's what drives me about this car stuff sometimes.

A lot of times they say no if its not a 100% bolt on. But anything can be made to work. Most of the time it's something so little. Or they just want you to buy there products.

LafitteZ · 07-02-2013, 05:58 AM

If it fits that would be a very good direction to go. We have a guy on here that did his own spal setup with the csf and he's in IRAQ. Said 130 degrees no problem. He had a 34 row oil cooler too.

SS_Firehawk · 07-02-2013, 07:53 AM

Maybe just head over to SPAL's site and see what they have that is an improvement over stock that fits in the same shroud. From what I hear though, the fans that came with the Z are pretty nice. If you already have a CSF radiator and you have an intercooler up front, maybe create some ducting on a Z speed undershroud that wind.zero did: DIY Zspeed Nismo370Z aluminum under pan diffuser but point the fresh air towards the radiator. Not sure how well it'd work but it was a thought. I know the 4th gen F bodies ran something similar because the limited cooling (if any) coming from the front bumper.

Edit: looks like someone beat me to suggesting SPAL fans for oem shroud lol.

LafitteZ · 07-03-2013, 05:28 AM

Yea me and another guy from Iraq was throwing ideas back and fourth about a year ago about spal fan upgrades. We came up with a conclusion which was to use a mishimoto fan shroud and fit the spal fans to that. Then wire them in. Z1 was going to build it for me. I didn't do it just for the fact I didn't need it. But it was a solid idea tho.

theDreamer · 07-03-2013, 07:41 AM

Might be time to push some companies into making a "kit" for this possibly, besides just GTM, if there is enough interest.
This way it is a fairly plug-n-play setup with no wiring involved which is where I throw in the towel.

G37sHKS · 07-03-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Might be time to push some companies into making a "kit" for this possibly, besides just GTM, if there is enough interest.
This way it is a fairly plug-n-play setup with no wiring involved which is where I throw in the towel.

What's wrong with GTM's shroud with SPAL fans?
I was told by Mike that the SPAL is made to plug in play and i dont have to buy any other wires.

So whats wrong with it? lemme guess.. price?

theDreamer · 07-03-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

What's wrong with GTM's shroud with SPAL fans?
I was told by Mike that the SPAL is made to plug in play and i dont have to buy any other wires.

So whats wrong with it? lemme guess.. price?

I have not even looked at the price, so no idea how much it costs.
I am thinking of having options so if people want different fans or come out with a different/better design people can choose. Nothing wrong with GTM's setup, but more than one option is always better for our cars. If no one produces anything better I will probably be purchasing the GTM option.

G37sHKS · 07-03-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I have not even looked at the price, so no idea how much it costs.
I am thinking of having options so if people want different fans or come out with a different/better design people can choose. Nothing wrong with GTM's setup, but more than one option is always better for our cars. If no one produces anything better I will probably be purchasing the GTM option.

I haven't install the whole cooling process (CSF + GTM shroud with Fans) to be honest with you so i cant give you any experience review.

But I did a lot of search about these SPAL fans before purchasing it and I think its safe to say that its one of the best/fastest fans out there!

Now with plug in play and if it fit with CSF. Im not sure yet. Mike said if CSF fits like stock then the shroud should fit with no problem and just plug it to stock connection and youre good to go.

theDreamer · 07-03-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

I haven't install the whole cooling process (CSF + GTM shroud with Fans) to be honest with you so i cant give you any experience review.

But I did a lot of search about these SPAL fans before purchasing it and I think its safe to say that its one of the best/fastest fans out there!

Now with plug in play and if it fit with CSF. Im not sure yet. Mike said if CSF fits like stock then the shroud should fit with no problem and just plug it to stock connection and youre good to go.

Ah, well let us know once you get them in and how it goes.

SPOHN · 07-03-2013, 10:49 AM

Making your own shroud is very easy. Especially if you own or can rent a metal break.

theDreamer · 07-03-2013, 11:07 AM

GTM Motorsports*::*COOLING SYSTEM*::*GTM H.O. 14" Dual Fan Kit For Z34/V36 For Stock Radiator

Price: $488.00

That is actually fair for what I was expecting for a complete kit which I can just throw into the car.

Chuck33079 · 07-08-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

GTM Motorsports*::*COOLING SYSTEM*::*GTM H.O. 14" Dual Fan Kit For Z34/V36 For Stock Radiator

Price: $488.00

That is actually fair for what I was expecting for a complete kit which I can just throw into the car.

Dammit, every time I think I've reached a good stopping point with this car, someone has to go and show me a part I just have to have. Oh well, that's modding for you.

theDreamer · 07-08-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Dammit, every time I think I've reached a good stopping point with this car, someone has to go and show me a part I just have to have. Oh well, that's modding for you.

Glad I can help.

Chuck33079 · 07-08-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Glad I can help.

You people realize I have another project car, right? How will that ever be done if all my disposable income keeps going to my daily driver?

All kidding aside, this looks to be a good upgrade, especially for the FI guys. I've got the CSF radiator, a big oil cooler and the fans are programmed to come on much earlier than stock, but there's still some movement of the water temp gauge if it's over 100 degrees out, I'm stuck in traffic for a long time and the AC is on. Granted, that's to be expected, but I don't like seeing the little dot move. I'll try these fans, swap to a thermostat with a slightly lower opening temp and swap out the coolant for something closer to a 80/20 water to antifreeze mix. That should do it. If not, it's vented hood time.

G37sHKS · 07-03-2013, 02:40 PM

Here a picture of my GTM 14" dual SPAL fans

Its definitely nice upgrade over stock, our stock fans are smaller and curved blade type fan. These are bigger, better motor, faster, and more powerful due the straight blade type.

Here a quote from SPAL website.

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Q. What's the difference between the straight blade fans and the curved blade fans?

A. The straight blade fans provide maximum cooling for their size. The curved blade fans sacrifice a small amount of performance in return for a much quieter fan. If noise is an issue, go with the curved blade fans. If ultimate performance is the objective, use the straight blade fans.

Source: SPAL High Performance Cooling Fans

07-02-2013, 07:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Maybe just head over to SPAL's site and see what they have that is an improvement over stock that fits in the same shroud. From what I hear though, the fans that came with the Z are pretty nice. If you already have a CSF radiator and you have an intercooler up front, maybe create some ducting on a Z speed undershroud that wind.zero did: DIY Zspeed Nismo370Z aluminum under pan diffuser but point the fresh air towards the radiator. Not sure how well it'd work but it was a thought. I know the 4th gen F bodies ran something similar because the limited cooling (if any) coming from the front bumper. Edit: looks like someone beat me to suggesting SPAL fans for oem shroud lol. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

07-03-2013, 07:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Might be time to push some companies into making a "kit" for this possibly, besides just GTM, if there is enough interest. This way it is a fairly plug-n-play setup with no wiring involved which is where I throw in the towel. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

07-03-2013, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	Making your own shroud is very easy. Especially if you own or can rent a metal break. __________________

07-03-2013, 11:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	GTM Motorsports::COOLING SYSTEM::GTM H.O. 14" Dual Fan Kit For Z34/V36 For Stock Radiator Price: $488.00 That is actually fair for what I was expecting for a complete kit which I can just throw into the car. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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07-02-2013, 05:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	If it fits that would be a very good direction to go. We have a guy on here that did his own spal setup with the csf and he's in IRAQ. Said 130 degrees no problem. He had a 34 row oil cooler too.

07-03-2013, 05:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	Yea me and another guy from Iraq was throwing ideas back and fourth about a year ago about spal fan upgrades. We came up with a conclusion which was to use a mishimoto fan shroud and fit the spal fans to that. Then wire them in. Z1 was going to build it for me. I didn't do it just for the fact I didn't need it. But it was a solid idea tho.