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Installing my clutch and flywheel tonight, any tips?

Originally Posted by Jsolo ^^That's quite a bit of pressure. I recall the FSM explicitely stating not to use any pressure bleeders on the clutch. Reason probably being the clutch

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Old 06-09-2013, 07:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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^^That's quite a bit of pressure. I recall the FSM explicitely stating not to use any pressure bleeders on the clutch. Reason probably being the clutch MC having much smaller seals than the brake mc, and operating at significantly lower pressures.

How'd you wear out the clutch so fast in a 2012?
Ahh, lol. I should start reading more.

Me? Several factors, haha. I pretty much learned manual on this car, so it had some pretty bad slipping in the beginning. Also, I participate in drifting, and god did I clutch kick the car HARD. I also powershift through gears down the drag strip, since we have a soft-rev limit. Through all this abuse (28000 miles), I must have glazed the disc over.

That's why I called Joe, asked for a setup that could handle this abuse, plus a turbo kit, and didn't look back. (Or at my wallet. )
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Welp, I spoke too soon.

Drove around town today and felt the pedal getting softer and softer - thought to myself, "must still be air somewhere." Drove to the auto parts store to get more fluid, and only made it to school before I felt the pedal become horrible. All of a sudden, I look down and see my pedal stuck to the floor.

Dead master cylinder, for sure. :/
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Welp, I spoke too soon.

Drove around town today and felt the pedal getting softer and softer - thought to myself, "must still be air somewhere." Drove to the auto parts store to get more fluid, and only made it to school before I felt the pedal become horrible. All of a sudden, I look down and see my pedal stuck to the floor.

Dead master cylinder, for sure. :/
or CSC.
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or CSC.
Hope not he said be put a new CSC in
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I put in the HD CSC, and after calling Joe, we both confirmed the master cylinder went out. The seals in the assembly probably didn't seal anymore, and just let fluid rush past. The clutch can still disengage, but I only have 1 inch of pedal travel. Getting a tow home soon.
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I put in the HD CSC, and after calling Joe, we both confirmed the master cylinder went out. The seals in the assembly probably didn't seal anymore, and just let fluid rush past. The clutch can still disengage, but I only have 1 inch of pedal travel. Getting a tow home soon.
Yep, that's what happened with my CMC. Easy fix.
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How long did it take for you to do the install? Jacks or lift?
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link to the DIY install guide please?

I'd like to try and do this install myself and would like to know what tools are needed to tackle a job like this.

Also, where did you buy your CMC?
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A DIY to changing out the clutch?? That's a pretty major job and a big undertaking. I think the scope of this is beyond most garage mechanics. Dropping the trans is a bit different than doing an oil change. At least a 2 person job.

If you're interested, a good starting point would be the fsm.
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The OP just did it himself, not unreasonable at all.

Cell, here's a link to the 350 DIYs

http://my350z.com/forum/engine-drive...wt-clutch.html
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man i didnt even see the part about putting in a new HD CSC.

good luck, keep us posted
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@diddy535, bookmarked that page. Will give it a read later tonight.

If you have a well equipped garage, I suppose its doable. Would need some way of supporting the trans. Air tools would be helpful too. Main concern is if you're looking for a diy, this might be too big of a job for you. There's lots of little details and nuances that the diy won't cover - certain procedures and techniques. Knowing how to deal with issues as they come up, etc.. If you're mechanically inclined and have some idea what you're doing, by all means go for it!
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Definitely true Jsolo and the FSM is a must have too like you said.
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How long did it take for you to do the install? Jacks or lift?
I did the install in about 6-7 hours, haha. To be honest, it could have gone quicker, but I kept finding a reason to go into the house and make a snack. It's honestly a pretty straightfoward install!

I used 4 jack stands, set to highest point. I used a long, low profile jack as my transmission jack. Granted, I did have a friend over to help.

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link to the DIY install guide please?

I'd like to try and do this install myself and would like to know what tools are needed to tackle a job like this.

Also, where did you buy your CMC?
I used nothing but basic hand tools - no air tools. Make sure to have swivels, extensions, many sizes of wrenches, and ratchets. It's really not too bad!

I bought my CMC from Joe@ZSpeed. Best price I could find on short notice.

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A DIY to changing out the clutch?? That's a pretty major job and a big undertaking. I think the scope of this is beyond most garage mechanics. Dropping the trans is a bit different than doing an oil change. At least a 2 person job.

If you're interested, a good starting point would be the fsm.
It is quite a daunting task - but I'm nothing more than a shade-tree kinda guy! I've never done a transmission in my life, but I consider myself to have lots of mechanical knowhow and common sense. The FSM helped greatly, just to check on what I'm removing, in the right order. But it's nothing crazy, my order of work was:

Exhaust>Driveshaft>Shifter Assy.>Transmission electrical connectors>Transmission. It's very general, but it's nothing crazy like pulling a motor or anything! More detailed instructions would include the lower metal bracing, starter motor, and slave cylinder stuff.

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@diddy535, bookmarked that page. Will give it a read later tonight.

If you have a well equipped garage, I suppose its doable. Would need some way of supporting the trans. Air tools would be helpful too. Main concern is if you're looking for a diy, this might be too big of a job for you. There's lots of little details and nuances that the diy won't cover - certain procedures and techniques. Knowing how to deal with issues as they come up, etc.. If you're mechanically inclined and have some idea what you're doing, by all means go for it!
Agreed! Having the mechanical knowhow is the biggest help in working on a car. Just knowing why stuff works and tricks and tips is the key to victory. Just remember - a surgeon didn't assemble your car, just another guy that works at a factory. If he could figure it out, you can too.


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I actually was gonna take pictures and do a diy, but to be honest, at 4 in the morning, I was less than excited to do so. Sorry! If anyone has any detailed questions, I'll be happy to help and talk to you!

I'll update you guys on the CMC - it seems like an easy job. 2 bolts hold it in the engine bay, and just the push rod to disconnect from the pedal. Afterwards, I'll flush the system, gravity bleed, then 2 person bleed.
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How about that to get the transmission down?
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