Overheating issue with 2013 370z?

chrischhorn · 05-31-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

The lines that you are referring to are coolant lines. The factory cooler is an oil to coolant, oil cooler.

Correct, the factory oil cooler is nothing but a sandwhich plate with coolant that is about 20-30 degrees cooler then normal oil temps. There is actually no extra lines or an actual cooler such as the aftermarket ones. Its just that plate that has coolant running through it at a slightly lower then oil temp.

synolimit · 05-31-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

The lines that you are referring to are coolant lines. The factory cooler is an oil to coolant, oil cooler.

Just saw that now thanks. Wow, ill be pulling all this off and making my own.

gomer_110 · 06-01-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Just saw that now thanks. Wow, ill be pulling all this off and making my own.

If your really daring you could get do a custom coolant to oil cooler. A few of us have considered it but never taken the leap.

Laminova Oil-Water heat exchanger

martin82 · 06-01-2013, 01:22 AM

not sure about price but I think it takes too big of a heat exchanger to do that and will most likely need an upgraded radiator as well.

If you get limp mode at 220 deg, something is definately wrong with your car. I had my car up to 265-70 at the track and no limp mode, that's when I back off and let car cool down. After 34 row cooler and stock cooler, my track temps dont go over 265, normally hovers around 255. I will try to shroud it and fan it next, would like to keep temps around 220's at the track!

Drex · 06-01-2013, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by latintrpt

Sorry should've been more specific. No not first thing in the morning. Later in the day, when the temp's are still warm and humid.

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The car is not pulling timing, but he might be having some heat soak with the stock intakes.
The plastic boxes help a little but once it gets the engine bay temps up it is hard to get them down.

sounds like heat soak

synolimit · 06-01-2013, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by martin82

not sure about price but I think it takes too big of a heat exchanger to do that and will most likely need an upgraded radiator as well.

If you get limp mode at 220 deg, something is definately wrong with your car. I had my car up to 265-70 at the track and no limp mode, that's when I back off and let car cool down. After 34 row cooler and stock cooler, my track temps dont go over 265, normally hovers around 255. I will try to shroud it and fan it next, would like to keep temps around 220's at the track!

So with the stock cooler hooked up and an aftermarket 34 row do you run a short or long filter?

Chuck33079 · 06-01-2013, 02:42 AM

I've got a 34r gtm oil cooler. There's no option of a longer filter. There's barely enough room to get the stock length filter off without taking oil bukkake. The sandwich plate takes up the room you need for a longer filter.

synolimit · 06-01-2013, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got a 34r gtm oil cooler. There's no option of a longer filter. There's barely enough room to get the stock length filter off without taking oil bukkake. The sandwich plate takes up the room you need for a longer filter.

Even with no stock cooler? This guy did it but with no stock on there. Not sure how much room is there from this pic.

Chuck33079 · 06-01-2013, 03:06 AM

I've got a 2011, so no oil to water cooler on there. With gtms sandwich plate, you don't have enough room for a longer filter. Maybe other brands of sandwich plate are thinner.

synolimit · 06-01-2013, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got a 2011, so no oil to water cooler on there. With gtms sandwich plate, you don't have enough room for a longer filter. Maybe other brands of sandwich plate are thinner.

Ahh, yeah that's probably true.

Chuck33079 · 06-01-2013, 03:09 AM

However the guy in your pic did it, there's not a lot of room. I'd just run a stock sized filter.

Zoren 370 · 06-01-2013, 07:32 AM

Just keep on driving that the z until you reach 2-3k miles on the odometer you'll notice everything start to get smooth.
My z runs very sluggish at the beginning it fills so tight and the engine seems to have a hard time reving more than 5k but know I have to tame her she is wild.

But the oil cooler 25 row if you only do occasional track is a must.

370Zsteve · 06-01-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Over at bob is the oil guy, that number is more like 260+. 220 is nothing to worry about.

Over at my mechanic's shop, (he builds and maintains Bob Sharp's racing Nissans), 220 is *extremely* worrisome. I tend not to cite references from "Bob the Oil Guy" and prefer folks with lots of track time.

370Zsteve · 06-01-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I'm not sure I believe that the car is pulling timing or any kind of limp mode at 220. Does anybody have any logs of something like that occurring? Stock I saw 240 regularly with the only performance loss coming because it was over 100 outside, not because of oil temps.

Agreed. No way Limp Mode is occurring at 220, something else is going on. I thought Limp kicked in around 260+?

370Zsteve · 06-01-2013, 10:21 AM

Here is the graph I was referring to. And it's a great DIY as well.

Look at the viscosity level at 220.

DIY: Oil Cooler (scratch built install, lottsa pics).....>.

06-01-2013, 02:42 AM	#52 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I've got a 34r gtm oil cooler. There's no option of a longer filter. There's barely enough room to get the stock length filter off without taking oil bukkake. The sandwich plate takes up the room you need for a longer filter. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-01-2013, 03:06 AM	#54 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I've got a 2011, so no oil to water cooler on there. With gtms sandwich plate, you don't have enough room for a longer filter. Maybe other brands of sandwich plate are thinner. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-01-2013, 03:09 AM	#56 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	However the guy in your pic did it, there's not a lot of room. I'd just run a stock sized filter. 370Zsteve likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-01-2013, 10:21 AM	#60 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Here is the graph I was referring to. And it's a great DIY as well. Look at the viscosity level at 220. DIY: Oil Cooler (scratch built install, lottsa pics).....>. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	not sure about price but I think it takes too big of a heat exchanger to do that and will most likely need an upgraded radiator as well. If you get limp mode at 220 deg, something is definately wrong with your car. I had my car up to 265-70 at the track and no limp mode, that's when I back off and let car cool down. After 34 row cooler and stock cooler, my track temps dont go over 265, normally hovers around 255. I will try to shroud it and fan it next, would like to keep temps around 220's at the track!

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Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	Just keep on driving that the z until you reach 2-3k miles on the odometer you'll notice everything start to get smooth. My z runs very sluggish at the beginning it fills so tight and the engine seems to have a hard time reving more than 5k but know I have to tame her she is wild. But the oil cooler 25 row if you only do occasional track is a must.