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JeMo44 05-29-2013 06:17 PM

Question about the SRM
 
I just got my Z this past saturday and I noticed that when I shift gears the rpm goes up from time to time or when I push the clutch in the clutch something somewhat similar happens. Is this normal? I have the SRM on.... Be easy on me guys, I'm new to this bad girl :driving: :tup:

iceman21_23 05-29-2013 06:33 PM

SRM= Synchro rev matching basically blips the throttle and eliminates the need for heel toeing, its a feature that i find useful. it essentially blips the gas to match rpm's when shifting gears.

JeMo44 05-29-2013 06:44 PM

So I shouldn't be worried about it rev up then, I know it does it when I down shift, but it just feels weird to me when I upshift, it also might be that the car only has 450 miles on it

iceman21_23 05-29-2013 06:50 PM

its just matching the revs for a smoother shift, shouldn't be worried.

SS_Firehawk 05-29-2013 06:51 PM

It will do it on upshifts as well to smooth out the engagement.

Here is a bit of homework for you :)
2009 Nissan 370Z's SynchroRev Match Explained - Tech Dept. - Car Reviews - Car and Driver

JeMo44 05-29-2013 06:54 PM

So it's ok for the clutch to feel a bit hard, its kind of difficult to explain what it feels like but I get the feeling like I have nothing to worry about.

Japanjay 05-29-2013 06:57 PM

That is why I hate it, I dont like the up control.

dP3NGU1N 05-29-2013 07:04 PM

You eventually get use to it.

gomer_110 05-29-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JeMo44 (Post 2338670)
So it's ok for the clutch to feel a bit hard, its kind of difficult to explain what it feels like but I get the feeling like I have nothing to worry about.

The clutch in our cars is notorious for feeling strange compared to other cars but this is normal. You will get used to it.

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 07:10 PM

You can make the clutch feel a little better if you reach up in there and remove the helper spring.

Haboob 05-30-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2338692)
You can make the clutch feel a little better if you reach up in there and remove the helper spring.

This.

I did this and it was like night and day.

As for the SRM, yes... clutch in and it's still going to raise the RPM. Throwing it into neutral will do the same. :shakes head: Almost got me in trouble once. :icon17:


They say it doesn't do anything on up shifts, but it sure does hold the RPMs a bit on an upshift. :stirthepot:

IDZRVIT 05-31-2013 09:06 AM

My SRM doesn't do anything when upshifting. I guess I just shift better than some of you guys.:stirthepot:

theDreamer 05-31-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 2341206)
My SRM doesn't do anything when upshifting. I guess I just shift better than some of you guys.:stirthepot:

It will do something if you are slightly under the RPM range it has calculated for what it thinks you are going to do.
Remember if you are cruising in say 4th and go clutch in, the systems will know 2 things. You are either going up or down so it holds or slightly bumps the RPM to prepare itself. If you go down it can quickly rev up and if you shift up it drops them off.

IDZRVIT 05-31-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2341216)
It will do something if you are slightly under the RPM range it has calculated for what it thinks you are going to do.
Remember if you are cruising in say 4th and go clutch in, the systems will know 2 things. You are either going up or down so it holds or slightly bumps the RPM to prepare itself. If you go down it can quickly rev up and if you shift up it drops them off.

I don't pussy foot around when I shift so the shift is completed in say a 1/4 - 1/2 second. The computer doesn't have time to do anything because the the digital data its presuming, as you note, then collecting actual data, now has to be processed and then work the mechanics of the engine. That will take more than a 1/4 second to complete those steps because nothing in this world is instantaneous. So, if someone is slow to shift, then one might notice an increase in rpm as you and others have noted before the shift is completed but for me I just complete the shift and move on. If I had the time to prove this I would just video the tach on an upshift and see if it moves up i.e. several hundred rpm because thats what it takes to become "noticeable", but its not important enough to me to do so as I'm in the process of putting my retro fit roller motor back into my 'vette.:happydance: Maybe you or someone else could do this to prove the point? Be sure to complete shifts within say 1/2 second. Anything more is granny shifting.

theDreamer 05-31-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 2341299)
I don't pussy foot around when I shift so the shift is completed in say a 1/4 - 1/2 second. The computer doesn't have time to do anything because the the digital data its presuming, as you note, then collecting actual data, now has to be processed and then work the mechanics of the engine. That will take more than a 1/4 second to complete those steps because nothing in this world is instantaneous. So, if someone is slow to shift, then one might notice an increase in rpm as you and others have noted before the shift is completed but for me I just complete the shift and move on. If I had the time to prove this I would just video the tach on an upshift and see if it moves up i.e. several hundred rpm because thats what it takes to become "noticeable", but its not important enough to me to do so as I'm in the process of putting my retro fit roller motor back into my 'vette.:happydance: Maybe you or someone else could do this to prove the point? Be sure to complete shifts within say 1/2 second. Anything more is granny shifting.

You do know electrons, which is the basis for computation, travel at a much faster rate of speed and are beating you in your shifts. What is probably happening with you is that on your upshifts you are above its 'increase' limit meaning it sees no reason to raise the RPM when you upshift. Different shifting style.


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