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DriftKr6l 05-20-2013 05:10 PM

Replacing the oil temp gauge and sensor with aftermarket one
 
I will be replacing the stock gauge with an aftermarket one.
Does anyone know if I can just pull the stick oil temp sensor out and replace it with the after market one, or will the car go into limp mode because the ECU will not be seeing oil temps?

Guard Dad 05-20-2013 06:33 PM

The triple gauges are a single unit so it will be all three or nothing.

Someone has already done this with some success. The photos looked great and he said that it did not create any computer issues.

I am not sure where the thread is (you will need to do a search) but it went into considerable detail on all aspects of the conversion. Find that thread and you should have most of the answers that you are looking for.

Guard Dad 05-20-2013 06:46 PM

The thread is by JP-370Z

It is titled "Just swapped the triple meter OEM gauge".

It is located in the Exterior & Interior forum.

Hope this helps.

DriftKr6l 05-20-2013 06:52 PM

Thanks for the help guys.

I realized that they were all linked when I tried to replace the clock with an oil press gauge :P (see my build thread).

So I ordered an after market oil temp and volt gauges.

wstar 05-20-2013 07:22 PM

I doubt you can remove the OEM sensor and have everything just fine. The stock ECU uses that for (at least) monitoring oil overheat limp-mode at 280 and 300 F.

Nut_N_Much 05-20-2013 07:29 PM

:iagree:

Best way is to leave the stock sensor in place and tap the oil pan for the new gauge. I am doing this now on my build.

Or you can spend $150.00 on this http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...oducts_id=4652

:tiphat:

DriftKr6l 05-20-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2324791)
I doubt you can remove the OEM sensor and have everything just fine. The stock ECU uses that for (at least) monitoring oil overheat limp-mode at 280 and 300 F.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Im already tapped into the press sensor with a tee, really wanna stay away from another tee off on the temp sensor. Taping the pan sounds like pita.

Baer383 05-20-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftKr6l (Post 2324853)
That is exactly what I was thinking. Im already tapped into the press sensor with a tee, really wanna stay away from another tee off on the temp sensor. Taping the pan sounds like pita.

Just put a Greddy turbo oil pan on ,it has the hole already threaded for the gauge.
That's what I did and replaced all 3 dash gauges with Defi.:tup:

GaleForce 05-20-2013 08:07 PM

Or you can get an oil pan spacer and drill/thread a hole in it.

You have a few options to choose from :tup:

Nut_N_Much 05-21-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftKr6l (Post 2324853)
That is exactly what I was thinking. Im already tapped into the press sensor with a tee, really wanna stay away from another tee off on the temp sensor. Taping the pan sounds like pita.

Hey brother,
This is what I decided today to do for mine. I am adding this at the oil cooler.

JEGS Performance Products 110530 JEGS Fuel Pressure Gauge In-Line Adapter Fittings

No mess, easy add on.. :tiphat:

Baer383 05-21-2013 07:09 PM

Yeah they work good I have one for my fan on the oil cooler.:tup:

SouthArk370Z 05-21-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nut_N_Much (Post 2326810)
Hey brother,
This is what I decided today to do for mine. I am adding this at the oil cooler.

No mess, easy add on.. :tiphat:

I'm assuming this would go on the cooler inlet. If not, do you have to compensate for the lower temperature reading on the outlet or just use it as-is?

Baer383 05-21-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2326908)
I'm assuming this would go on the cooler inlet. If not, do you have to compensate for the lower temperature reading on the outlet or just use it as-is?

You can put it anywhere you want ,but it depends on it's specific job depends on where it goes

SouthArk370Z 05-21-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2326912)
You can put it anywhere you want ...

I get nervous when you start a sentence that way. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2326912)
... ,but it depends on it's specific job depends on where it goes

I was wondering about when used for an oil temp gauge on the dash.

Baer383 05-21-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2326932)
I was wondering about when used for an oil temp gauge on the dash.

I put mine in the oil pan for the temp gauge in the dash,the other is in the hot side line right before the oil cooler for the fan.

Nut_N_Much 05-21-2013 09:13 PM

:iagree:

Sorry just saw your response..

DriftKr6l 05-22-2013 09:15 AM

That is friggin awesome, just ordered, thank you sir :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nut_N_Much (Post 2326810)
Hey brother,
This is what I decided today to do for mine. I am adding this at the oil cooler.

JEGS Performance Products 110530 JEGS Fuel Pressure Gauge In-Line Adapter Fittings

No mess, easy add on.. :tiphat:


Nut_N_Much 05-22-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DriftKr6l (Post 2327620)
That is friggin awesome, just ordered, thank you sir :tiphat:

No problem ! Glad we could all help..

Zat_Zuma 05-22-2013 11:22 AM

My only concern is that the temperature probe may block/restrict the oil flow if inserted too deeply into the fitting. You may have to extend the 1/8" NPT fitting, so the probe will not impede oil flow.

DriftKr6l 05-22-2013 11:43 AM

yeah, I dont think a temp probe would even fit without an extension

m3chhawk 05-22-2013 12:30 PM

Earl's AT991401 Earl's Ano-Tuff NPT to NPT Adapter Fittings

martin82 05-22-2013 01:14 PM

I guess this could also be used with a pressure sensor to get oil pressure?

ChrisSlicks 05-22-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nut_N_Much (Post 2326810)
Hey brother,
This is what I decided today to do for mine. I am adding this at the oil cooler.

JEGS Performance Products 110530 JEGS Fuel Pressure Gauge In-Line Adapter Fittings

No mess, easy add on.. :tiphat:

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...555-110530.jpg

Where have you been all my life! Nice find.

m3chhawk 05-22-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 2328189)
Where have you been all my life! Nice find.

This. I'm going to run one on each side of the oil cooler (pressure and temp)

Mandingo 05-22-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2328244)
This. I'm going to run one on each side of the oil cooler (pressure and temp)

That's a neat idea. What kind of guage(s) would you use?

DriftKr6l 05-22-2013 02:45 PM

Im gonna run Depo.

m3chhawk 05-22-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftKr6l (Post 2328293)
Im gonna run Depo.

Yulp, me too. Actually already have them.

52mm Oil Temp Gauge 7 Color Peak Warning series - Deporacing
52mm PSI Oil Pressure 7 Color Peak Warning series - Deporacing

Nut_N_Much 05-22-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 2327920)
My only concern is that the temperature probe may block/restrict the oil flow if inserted too deeply into the fitting. You may have to extend the 1/8" NPT fitting, so the probe will not impede oil flow.

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2328076)

Good call, attached is a pic of the temp sending unit, I will defiantly use an extension of some kind. I might be able to get away with out an extension but why risk it.

DriftKr6l 05-23-2013 09:00 AM

Thats the ones I chose :) I hope its a "REAL" Japanese stepper motor :P
Except for the volt, that one is just the normal kind.

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2328305)


DriftKr6l 05-24-2013 10:53 AM

alright folks this is going to work great.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/qe6abaje.jpg

A tee gives the sensor a nice path to the oil which should make it accurate and responsive.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/me7equdu.jpg

Test fit, all I need is a cap.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/yderunu7.jpg

ChrisSlicks 05-24-2013 11:18 AM

I think there will be a small latency created by not having the temp sensor in the flow path, should be minimal though. The oil that sits around the sensor will tend to be static and instead will get heated and cooled by the oil around it. Worst case maybe 10 seconds? I don't see that as a big issue.

martin82 05-24-2013 12:29 PM

is there not a fitting that is just a straight female to male adapter?

ChrisSlicks 05-24-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 2331421)
is there not a fitting that is just a straight female to male adapter?

There is yes.
1/8 NPT Female to 1/8 NPT Male Extension [FITT012] - $4.00 : Palmers Pursuit Shop, Where Custom Still Means Something

martin82 05-24-2013 03:15 PM

nice I'd rather use that,

m3chhawk 05-24-2013 03:31 PM

I like the 90 for the simple fact that it keeps the sensor cable tight to the oil cooler lines.

DriftKr6l 05-24-2013 07:32 PM

I like the tee better for the simple fact that the sensor is better exposed to the oil.


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