Radiator: CSF or Mishimoto?

jwick · 12-26-2017, 03:25 PM

If mine ever goes south I’m going back to oem myself

YzGyz · 12-26-2017, 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=Hotrodz;3717451]I have been running the oem radiator as recommended by my TT installer since day one just over four years now. I never had an issue with temps until I started tracking the car and Sebastian at Specialty Z and I discussed my options which did not include either of the two aftermarket radiators mentioned so far. The only one that he felt had any real merit was the Ron Davis custom radiator for the 370z. It requires modification of your front engine bay and you have to delete your AC. He suggested I open up my front bumper to let more airflow in before spending significant dollars on radiator change. So far that has worked even on track days over 100*.

The other thing you need to consider is that those aftermarket radiators are thicker than the oem and don't allow as much space between it and the intercooler therefore despite the other issues you may not make much headway on keeping your temporary down. Long story longer...stay with your oem. Just my two cents worth of nothing lol!

This is good advice. So need for CSF or Mishimoto junk on a boosted car.

YzGyz

EZT · 12-27-2017, 05:57 PM

I'm currently on my third CSF radiator and this one is the updated version. It's been installed now for 3 years and started leaking about a month ago. I'm officially giving up trying to have an aftermarket radiator in the Z and will return it to stock very soon. I will say, when I notified CSF of my second radiator's failure they did replace it for free, as it was not the updated version. As much as it would be awesome to replace this one, I am just ready to not pay for a radiator install anymore.

YzGyz · 12-27-2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EZT

I'm currently on my third CSF radiator and this one is the updated version. It's been installed now for 3 years and started leaking about a month ago. I'm officially giving up trying to have an aftermarket radiator in the Z and will return it to stock very soon. I will say, when I notified CSF of my second radiator's failure they did replace it for free, as it was not the updated version. As much as it would be awesome to replace this one, I am just ready to not pay for a radiator install anymore.

I'm totally with you. If CSF had contacted me and offered a new revised one, I may have bitten. However, they were nowhere to be seen even after contacting them. So BAD CS and BAD PRODUCT = suck.

I totally feel you on having to replace it over and over again. That's why I said "revised" product. The down time and uncertainty of driving a non reliable car is not worth it.

YzGyz

Hotrodz · 12-27-2017, 06:27 PM

Here is the another thing to consider as some unfortunate folks found out. Unless you water temperature spikes while you are losing water you will never see a change in water temperature when the tank has gone dry....because the temp gauge is reading the ambient temperature and without warning your engine goes boom!

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Rusty · 12-27-2017, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Here is the another thing to consider as some unfortunate folks found out. Unless you water temperature spikes while you are losing water you will never see a change in water temperature when the tank has gone dry....because the temp gauge is reading the ambient temperature and without warning your engine goes boom!

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One of the reasons I installed an aftermarket water temp gauge. The sensor is in the upper radiator hose.

jwick · 12-27-2017, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

One of the reasons I installed an aftermarket water temp gauge. The sensor is in the upper radiator hose.

Me too but boy was it a ********** to get that silicone hose on with the fitting in it.

Rusty · 12-27-2017, 09:13 PM

Here's mine.

Hotrodz · 12-27-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

One of the reasons I installed an aftermarket water temp gauge. The sensor is in the upper radiator hose.

Yeah I need to get that and an oil pressure gauge.

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redondoaveb · 12-27-2017, 10:13 PM

What size is the inline sensor adapter?

Rusty · 12-27-2017, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

What size is the inline sensor adapter?

https://www.z1motorsports.com/coolin...er-p-2822.html

redondoaveb · 12-27-2017, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

https://www.z1motorsports.com/coolin...er-p-2822.html

Thanks Rusty!

Rusty · 12-27-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Thanks Rusty!

Spooler · 12-27-2017, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Here is the another thing to consider as some unfortunate folks found out. Unless you water temperature spikes while you are losing water you will never see a change in water temperature when the tank has gone dry....because the temp gauge is reading the ambient temperature and without warning your engine goes boom!

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This is not just for the 370z, it is for many other cars also. The 300zxtt and 300zx from 1990 to 1996 were the same way.

jwick · 12-28-2017, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

https://www.z1motorsports.com/coolin...er-p-2822.html

That’s the one

12-26-2017, 03:25 PM	#181 (permalink)
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12-26-2017, 09:49 PM	#182 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 63	[QUOTE=Hotrodz;3717451]I have been running the oem radiator as recommended by my TT installer since day one just over four years now. I never had an issue with temps until I started tracking the car and Sebastian at Specialty Z and I discussed my options which did not include either of the two aftermarket radiators mentioned so far. The only one that he felt had any real merit was the Ron Davis custom radiator for the 370z. It requires modification of your front engine bay and you have to delete your AC. He suggested I open up my front bumper to let more airflow in before spending significant dollars on radiator change. So far that has worked even on track days over 100*. The other thing you need to consider is that those aftermarket radiators are thicker than the oem and don't allow as much space between it and the intercooler therefore despite the other issues you may not make much headway on keeping your temporary down. Long story longer...stay with your oem. Just my two cents worth of nothing lol! This is good advice. So need for CSF or Mishimoto junk on a boosted car. YzGyz Hotrodz likes this. __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Here is the another thing to consider as some unfortunate folks found out. Unless you water temperature spikes while you are losing water you will never see a change in water temperature when the tank has gone dry....because the temp gauge is reading the ambient temperature and without warning your engine goes boom! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk edliaszenik likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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EZT Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Gainesville Posts: 546 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 315	I'm currently on my third CSF radiator and this one is the updated version. It's been installed now for 3 years and started leaking about a month ago. I'm officially giving up trying to have an aftermarket radiator in the Z and will return it to stock very soon. I will say, when I notified CSF of my second radiator's failure they did replace it for free, as it was not the updated version. As much as it would be awesome to replace this one, I am just ready to not pay for a radiator install anymore.

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